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brooklynite

(94,748 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:34 AM Dec 2022

Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha

Source: New York Times

When videos and photos emerged in April showing bodies of dozens of civilians strewn along a street in Bucha, Ukrainians and the rest of the world voiced horror and outrage. But in Russia, officials had a completely different reaction: denial.

President Vladimir V. Putin dismissed the gruesome scene as “a provocation,” and claimed that the Russian Army had nothing to do with it.

But an eight-month visual investigation by The New York Times concluded that the perpetrators of the massacre along Yablunska Street were Russian paratroopers from the 234th Air Assault Regiment led by Lt. Col. Artyom Gorodilov.

The evidence shows that the killings were part of a deliberate and systematic effort to ruthlessly secure a route to the capital, Kyiv. Soldiers interrogated and executed unarmed men of fighting age, and killed people who unwittingly crossed their paths — whether it was children fleeing with their families, locals hoping to find groceries or people simply trying to get back home on their bicycles.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html



WARNING: potentially triggering video at link.
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Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2022 OP
Gifting the article irisblue Dec 2022 #1
Thank you BigOleDummy Dec 2022 #5
Thank you! geardaddy Dec 2022 #8
There is plenty of evidence to prosecute them in international court IronLionZion Dec 2022 #2
Everything that the Russians are doing to Ukraine are daily war crimes FredGarvin Dec 2022 #11
If Putin travels out of Russia IronLionZion Dec 2022 #12
Horrific. I could not finish watching this. secondwind Dec 2022 #3
We shoved aerial photos of missiles in Cuba Submariner Dec 2022 #4
At least a wide screen projection TV in front of every Ruzzian embassy where ever they are.. mitch96 Dec 2022 #17
yes...great idea.... bahboo Dec 2022 #18
The article already reported their reaction: Denial. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #19
Seems pretty cut and dried to me BigOleDummy Dec 2022 #6
Ukrainians don't need long explanations of "Why we fight". paleotn Dec 2022 #7
I believe Ukraine is able to track some of the Russian soldiers' cellphones FakeNoose Dec 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author SidneyR Dec 2022 #10
Rep. Stansbury is a great person, congresswoman, and advocate. She deserved this success! keopeli Dec 2022 #13
Well musclecar6 Dec 2022 #14
I am SOOO looking forward to the day we can try Putin and his cronies for crimes against humanity LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #15
Do not trust Russia or their puppets, including trump republianmushroom Dec 2022 #16
.. ck4829 Dec 2022 #20
putin...war crimes...GBU-43/B discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2022 #21

IronLionZion

(45,542 posts)
2. There is plenty of evidence to prosecute them in international court
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:53 AM
Dec 2022

State sponsored terrorism and war crimes.

FredGarvin

(485 posts)
11. Everything that the Russians are doing to Ukraine are daily war crimes
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:40 PM
Dec 2022

Beyond the reprobates mentioned in the article, the ENTIRE Russian military are not exempt from being horrific terrorists.

It's absurd that the world continues to make measured responses to this horror

Submariner

(12,509 posts)
4. We shoved aerial photos of missiles in Cuba
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 11:28 AM
Dec 2022

in Nikita Khrushchev's face in 1962. Let's do it to Putin this time.

Put this video on a giant flat screen at the United Nations for the world to see and let's see the collective reaction and fallout from it.

mitch96

(13,926 posts)
17. At least a wide screen projection TV in front of every Ruzzian embassy where ever they are..
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:31 PM
Dec 2022

Play it 24 hrs a day/ 7days a week...
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maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
19. The article already reported their reaction: Denial.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:59 PM
Dec 2022

It's standard operating procedure. Deny; never admit anything.

There would be no fallout. Russia's permanent presence on the UN Security Council means they'll veto any resolution.

BigOleDummy

(2,272 posts)
6. Seems pretty cut and dried to me
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 11:34 AM
Dec 2022

And would fit in with Russias stated goals and "purpose" for their naked aggression.

As an aside, their trolls and bots and..... apologists are swarming the comments sections of the reporting of Mr. Zelenskiys visit. Its pitiful to see actually.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
7. Ukrainians don't need long explanations of "Why we fight".
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 11:58 AM
Dec 2022

They live it every single day. Only solace at this point is the 234th is most likely chewed up and rebuilt with poorly trained conscripts, if it still exists at all in any form other than paper.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
9. I believe Ukraine is able to track some of the Russian soldiers' cellphones
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:18 PM
Dec 2022

They've been able to target their bombs on certain hideouts, having seen the cellphone locations on their radar. Or maybe it's on their cell tower servers? I don't know. It seems monumentally stupid that Russians would be allowed to send and receive messages from traceable devices, doesn't it?

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

keopeli

(3,525 posts)
13. Rep. Stansbury is a great person, congresswoman, and advocate. She deserved this success!
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:57 PM
Dec 2022

I work with Melanie and helped her re-election campaign significantly. She's got 'the right stuff'!

musclecar6

(1,692 posts)
14. Well
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:58 PM
Dec 2022


When you have a psychopath running Russia, it’s to be expected these horrible atrocities are going to happen. We just have to be thankful that our Orange amoral sociopath didn’t get re-elected and by the looks of it, has no chance of winning the next time around. Thank goodness.
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