More migrants dropped outside vice president's home in freezing weather on Christmas Eve
Source: cnn
By Noah Gray Updated 11:50 PM EST, Sat December 24, 2022
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An initial two busloads were taken to local shelters, according to an administration official. More buses arrived outside the vice president’s residence later Saturday evening. A CNN team saw migrants being dropped off, with some migrants wearing only T-shirts in the freezing weather. They were given blankets and put on another bus that went to a local church.
Tatiana Laborde, managing director of SAMU First Response, said her group was prepared for Saturday night’s arrivals. Busloads of migrants have been arriving in Washington weekly since April.
“The DC community has been welcoming buses from Texas anytime they’ve come since April,” she said. “Christmas Eve and freezing cold weather is no different. We are always here welcoming folks with open arms.”
It’s not clear who is responsible for sending the migrants to the Naval Observatory, though CNN reported earlier this year that Texas Gov. Greg Abbott had sent buses of migrants north, including to a location outside Harris’ home.
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Migrants from Central and South America wait near the residence of Vice President Kamala Harris after being dropped off on September 15, 2022, in Washington, DC.
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AZLD4Candidate
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CrispyQ
(40,931 posts)They can break laws, ignore subpoenas, plan & incite an insurrection, & still run for & hold office in the highest chambers of the land. Life is easier when you accept the reality of IOKIYR.
Fullduplexxx
(8,626 posts)
Polybius
(21,870 posts)Not sure if he tricked them or if they even knew what they were agreeing too though.
AZLD4Candidate
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SomewhereInTheMiddle
(658 posts)This doesn’t really fit the definition they use for human trafficking -
Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological. https://www.justice.gov/humantrafficking/what-is-human-trafficking
While fraud or coercion might be argued, these actions seem to lack the forced labor or sex aspects to fit the DoJ definition.
If the adult passengers agree to the transport, I don't know what law is being broken. Not saying they are not breaking the law, just that I don't know which one or ones they are. Given the false pretenses I assume some form of fraud might apply.
Or so it seems to me.
mwb970
(12,142 posts)Their made-up god must be so proud of them!
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Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)It’s a dehumanizing term, a catch all to brush as same all humans seeking refuge around the world, as long as they are not white, ofc.
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azureblue
(2,724 posts)They will go to hell for this:
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Matthew 25:31-46:
42 --- ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you? 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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But it is fitting that, on the day before the birth of Jesus is celebrated, these desperate and homeless people are taken in, housed, and cared for. This is the meaning of Christmas and the message of Jesus...
eShirl
(20,221 posts)Who does this?
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)I know, I know!
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Ukrainian refugees have been coming through Mexico for months.
AverageOldGuy
(3,778 posts)If Jesus existed at all, he would have been a dark-skinned Palestinian Jew with black hair and black eyes.
If he were to show up at a Republican rally and start talking about feeding the hungry, comforting the afflicted, and welcoming the stranger, they would crucify him.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)But not 100%. Maybe not even 90%.
Blondes and blue-eyed people existed in the Middle East, even in antiquity. Not many, but there were some. The Romans brought some with them, and they, let's say, mingled with the locals, same as everywhere else they went. Alexander the Great's armies brought some back after their expedition to India; several regions along that path are chock full of blondes with blue eyes. Like the Caucasian steppes. Much of which is closer by land to Jerusalem than Rome.
It behooves us to remember that people were far more mobile in antiquity and the Middle Ages than most of us realize. And that meant that certain recessive genes were far more common and far-flung as well.
So saying that a particular Jew of a time period had to have dark hair/eyes is like saying that all Jews will look like Woody Allen.
And that's just not true.
So likely--yes. Definitely? No.
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)There's just a crazy meme running around that makes him look like he's from Africa.
My aunt had blonde hair and blue eyes. My dad was much darker.
Look at some of the fair haired Arabs in congress. You would be surprised: John Sununu, Mitch Daniels etc etc
And then there are typical Arabs, such as Danny Thomas. Danny wasn't fair, but he certainly doesn't look like he came from Africa or India.
EarthFirst
(4,128 posts)Conscious comes before contract.
Refuse service to whichever organization in Texas is making these arrangements.
Have upfront meetings with their drivers; have a plan.
If a driver feels that this is what is occurring; have a contact number in place and immediately call a superior within the company to show up and represent the company and refuse service.
They cannot be forced to walk to Washington.
This is an abysmal human rights violation; I cannot fathom how this is still occurring with regularity…
Bernardo de La Paz
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LiberalFighter
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usaf-vet
(7,798 posts)Sending a warning from the DOJ that any bus company participating in this activity will be held responsible. Drivers will be arrested, and equipment will be confiscated.
Polybius
(21,870 posts)He got them to agree to it (perhaps they didn't know what they were agreeing to?), so no arrests can be made.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)I took a bus from NYC to Washington and back. Do I now need to sign an affidavit that I’m traveling of my own volition?
machoneman
(4,128 posts)..could lock him up, impound the bus and let his rot in jail for a long postponed hearing. Gee, maybe he bus will have a fire or engine failure duriing its long storage in a police pound. Anyway, making it difficult for the company that hires the drivers and owns the buses would pretty quickly get them to stop doing business with Abbott and his cronies.
Btw, we should start a campaign against these companies to ask folks to not use them anymore. Anyone here know the names of said companies.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)He’s transporting people who have requested refugee status, and are free to travel pending review of their case.
BannonsLiver
(20,536 posts)On a side note, since we're apparently talking about leisure travel, you headed to St. Barts or Gstaad this winter?
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)And I've been clear that I don't support what Abbott and DeSantis are doing. I'm pointing out that what's happening is not ILLEGAL because the refugees aren't being forced to travel, and therefore all the "let's arrest the bus driver/let's impound the bus" commentary is pointless.
Since you're so concerned; please specify the LAW that has been broken, and the evidence that would let you convict....somebody.
BannonsLiver
(20,536 posts)Bless your heart. 
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)
SlimJimmy
(3,251 posts)We may not agree with his actions, but they are not illegal.
BannonsLiver
(20,536 posts)What, you think they have options other than “get on the fucking bus”?
Try to be less obtuse.
SlimJimmy
(3,251 posts)They have signed waivers (in their language) and have volunteered to travel. No laws have been broken here. Your wishes are noted.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
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KS Toronado
(23,726 posts)It's the reQublican MAGAts who enjoy inflicting pain on others who are always ready for another
trip to the Vice President's doorstep. 
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)
joshdawg
(2,955 posts)And now I have to scrape him off the bottom of my shoe.
LittleGirl
(8,999 posts)Those holier than thou evangelical Christian hypocrites!
Do they not hear the story of taking in your neighbor? WTAF is wrong with them?
This continues because of the rest of the hypocrites that are brainwashed by right wing fear mongers barking on their media. Shame, Shame, Shame!
This story infuriated me today and I was already pissed off about living in this country and not at home. Every fucking thing is closed including soup kitchens!
Seriously, those wingers ignore this because they have been conned by the money takers (the church). Fuck them all.
Skittles
(171,509 posts)THEY ARE FASCIST RACISTS
LittleGirl
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cstanleytech
(28,450 posts)for such people.
bullimiami
(14,075 posts)FalloutShelter
(14,430 posts)Who would Jesus traffic?
bronxiteforever
(11,212 posts)with the identity of the Governor responsible for this.
keithbvadu2
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ificandream
(11,836 posts)And on Christmas Eve, no less. Godless bastards. I hope God rewards them with eternal punishment.
Vinca
(53,904 posts)human beings. Someone needs to be charged with a felony ASAP. If they want to ship people around the country, that's fine, but they must have a plan in place for someone to meet them, temporarily house them and see to their needs. It was 18 degrees when they dropped these sorry people off. It doesn't take long to freeze to death at 18 degrees.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)To help them. They have been since September, but those companies, those paying them need to be arrested now. They are as guilty as those coyotes who take them take them across the border for money.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Legalized corruption, legalized, protected hate, legalized protected hate speech.
All broadcast by a racist media network…ofc nothing will or can be done!
What if they were Ukrainians?
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)While everyone was told to stay home, they drove the migrants through those states
electric_blue68
(26,811 posts)ETA:
Really anything near or below freezing! 😮😤🤬
While it's a threat at any age isn't it like -
child endangeremment? That's an arrestable offense, yes?
Maeve
(43,455 posts)onetexan
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BumRushDaShow
(169,179 posts)The bible-waving GOP shows themselves to be those who refuse to offer "room at the inn".
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)to you by same media embracing white Christian Ukrainians…but not brown Christians?
What’s the difference, pray tell?
America has a systemically white privileged media system.
BumRushDaShow
(169,179 posts)always a nasty piece of work during the city's biweekly then weekly covid briefings during the height of the pandemic. I haven't watched local news broadcasts in ages.
There was a story I heard this morning about a local Ukrainian cultural organization that recently received a grant so they could expand their staff for outreach to help with the Ukrainian refugees. Philly has the U.S.'s 2nd largest number of resident Ukrainians behind NYC.
One thing that did make the news is how many in Ukraine are now eschewing the Eastern Orthodox celebration of Christmas (as embraced in Russia) with the earlier Christmas celebration that recognizes today for services. Alternately many of the Latin American migrants are Catholic and there has and always will be that Protestant vs Catholic battle (when it suits them given the SCOTUS make up).
BumRushDaShow
(169,179 posts)this is what I had heard and finally found the article with it (in this case, the reporter is black and note the designation she uses - "newcomers" ) an it underscores the disparity -
News
Local
Philadelphia’s Ukrainian Educational and Cultural Center plans to step up support efforts for Ukrainian newcomers in 2023
By Racquel Williams, KYW Newsradio
KYW Newsradio
16 hours ago
PHILADELPHIA (KYW Newsradio) — Philadelphia’s Ukrainian Educational and Cultural Center (UECC) has plans to step up their support efforts in the new year for Ukrainian newcomers. The center was awarded an $84,000 grant by the Welcome Fund, an organization that helps support people seeking refuge in the U.S.
“We are excited and thankful to Welcome US for making this possible,” said Volodymyr Kravtsov, UECC’s executive director. Kravtsov said the grant will allow the center to welcome more people and provide available resources to their sponsors.
“Showing an attitude of acceptance and providing support will allow them to feel welcome and ease the navigation process in their new environment,” Kravtsov said. Kravtsov also said the funds will help them expand their office, which is currently only staffed with two people.
He added they receive a lot of calls each day from sponsors and newcomers with various questions and requests and do their best to keep up and provide them with as much information and help as possible. Natalie Firko, UECC board president, said their new staff will be able to focus specifically on the newcomers, their sponsors and their needs.
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https://www.audacy.com/kywnewsradio/news/local/philadelphia-ukrainian-educational-and-cultural-center-grant
AllaN01Bear
(29,369 posts)musclecar6
(1,884 posts)Talk about heartless assholes that send people out into the freezing cold like that. Despicable.
malthaussen
(18,560 posts)... how can that be? Somebody had to charter the buses, there has to be a paper trail.
-- Mal
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)This could easily be checked.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)
Merry Christmas!
Prairie_Seagull
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DownriverDem
(7,010 posts)but MAGA repubs should be ashamed. Of course their ignorant supporters don't know that the MAGA repubs won't pass an immigration bill.
mzmolly
(52,776 posts)I hope those responsible are harshly dealt with.
AverageOldGuy
(3,778 posts)Our Scripture lesson for today is from Matthew, Chapter 25, Verses 31 through 46.
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Here ends the lesson.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,596 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Spreading the word of God is part of Christian responsibility.
Calling out heresy is also part of Christian responsibility.
1 Corinthians 5 where Paul instructs people to hold others inside the church accountable, but not those who are outside the church.
These people are damaging Christianity therefor they need to be called out privately and then in the public square.
Even if you are not Christian the issue is the same. Treating strangers in our land like this is wrong.
Magoo48
(6,719 posts)These are our fellow men, women, and children made to suffer at our government’s hands. And they’re using our tax dollars and doing it in our name without referendum.
Fundamental Governing needs a drastic overhaul.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)Right, Greg
Marthe48
(23,117 posts)Hoping the perp gets his dick stuck to the metal part of a wheelchair.
Collimator
(2,116 posts). . . to honor a glowing baby who was born to bring peace and goodwill?
Mysterian
(6,427 posts)They are monsters and they live among us.
Kennah
(14,578 posts)
Jilly_in_VA
(14,343 posts)The tree that paralyzed him also killed whatever soul he had. Just look at his eyes. You will see no soul there.
He has obviously forgotten that the Jesus that he professes to worship was once a refugee when he was a tiny baby.
Now when [the Magi] had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him.”
So Joseph got up and took the Child and His mother while it was still night, and left for Egypt. (Matthew 2: 13-14)
Call yourself a Christian, Abbott? Read your damn Bible, ALL of it. The people who came here fear the same things Mary and Joseph did.
Skittles
(171,509 posts)THAT IS A FASCIST MINDSET
Blue Owl
(58,982 posts)And may the karma be swift….
Pototan
(3,101 posts)First of all, moving refugees to other states and locales, such as New York, San Francisco, Boston and Washinton D.C, is not, in and of itself, a bad idea. But it should be done in an orderly and humane way, with proper supervision and planning. Each time these LEGAL IMMIGRANTS are moved, government and NGOs should be alerted and prepared for their arrivals, so as to provide proper assistance.
When Republican Governor's round up these refugees to bus them to an unsuspecting location, in the dead of night, without proper clothing, housing, food or medicine, here's what I suggest.
The receiving city does what it currently does, which is to provide humane treatment in an orderly fashion. But here's the rub, the bus driver should be arrested for human trafficking and the bus confiscated as evidence. The driver will undoubtedly be bailed out, but the bus remains impounded until trial. That could take months or years. Who cares if there is no conviction in the end? What company wants their busses impounded and hire a lawyer to legally serve their driver. And maybe, somebody will turn state's evidence and a real case emerges. If no bus company will take this risk, that would force the Republican Governors to reach agreements with the host cities to move our fellow human beings to other locations in the aforementioned humane and orderly way.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)These are morally bankrupt Governors who cater to racists, bigots, and sexists, and have no right to illegally transport people across borders.
Why should anyone bend to their racist showmanship
These vermin Governors in Florida and Texas deserve anything bad that happens to them
Pototan
(3,101 posts)that the refugees on that bus were lied to and/or coerced to take that trip across state lines and dropped of in sub freezing temperatures, with children in shorts and a tee shirt? Do you think, for a minute, those "passengers" made their decisions with informed consent?"
that's enough for an arrest and the impoundment of the bus. That would put an abrupt end to this nonsense.
Probable cause is the lowest bar on the judicial ladder, far below beyond a reasonable doubt.
I respectively disagree and do hold the private bus company and the driver as accomplices in what I conclude, is not only an immoral stunt, but an illegal stunt.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)these purveyors of hate, wear the band of being devout “Christians”. Are their church leaders calling them out on this?
I doubt it, and that speaks volumes
twodogsbarking
(18,626 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,366 posts)The White House condemned Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas after busloads of migrants were reportedly dropped off outside Vice President Kamala Harris' residence in Washington, DC, on one of the coldest Christmas Eves on record in the nation's capital.
"Governor Abbott abandoned children on the side of the road in below freezing temperatures on Christmas Eve without coordinating with any Federal or local authorities," a White House representative, Abdullah Hasan, said in a statement. "This was a cruel, dangerous, and shameful stunt."
Democrats have blamed the situation on Abbott, who since April has bused migrants from Texas to major Democratic-led cities including Washington, New York, Chicago, and Philadelphia to protest the Biden administration's immigration policies.
"As we have repeatedly said, we are willing to work with anyone — Republican or Democrat alike — on real solutions, like the comprehensive immigration reform and border security measures President Biden sent to Congress on his first day in office," Hasan added, "but these political games accomplish nothing and only put lives in danger."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-condemns-texas-governor-170359686.html
Kid Berwyn
(24,252 posts)And Florida, too.
Beartracks
(14,555 posts)Either they were, or they weren't.
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