McCarthy makes fresh concessions to try to woo hard-right Republicans in speaker bid

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Washington Post

House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy has made fresh concessions to a group of 20 GOP lawmakers in hopes of ending their blockade of his speakership ahead of votes Thursday, a stunning reversal that, if adopted, would weaken the position of speaker and ensure a tenuous hold on the job.

During late-hour negotiations Wednesday, McCarthy (R-Calif.) agreed to the proposed rule changes, according to four people familiar with the talks who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. In a major allowance to the hard-right Republicans, McCarthy offered to lower from five to one the number of members required to sponsor a resolution to force a vote on ousting the speaker — a change that the California Republican had previously said he would not accept.

McCarthy also expressed a willingness to place more members of the staunchly conservative House Freedom Caucus on the House Rules Committee, which debates legislation before it’s moved to the floor. And he relented on allowing floor votes to institute term limits on members and to enact specific border policy legislation.

It remained unclear early Thursday whether the concessions could move the holdouts, several of whom have said they will not support McCarthy no matter what. The House is scheduled to reconvene at noon Thursday for more voting. But some moderates have grown irate at the moves, after pledging last month they would never support a rules package that gives one House member the power to vacate the speaker.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/05/mccarthy-republicans-concessions-speaker/

---

No paywall

They need to call them "extremist right" but then I guess "hard right" is better than the years of their coddling of them as if they were mainstream "conservatives" (although I suppose their whole mainstream has moved in that far right direction anyway).

[Irish_Dem]

1. Boebert likes the new rule so she can grandstand and show how powerful she is.

She only won by 500 votes so needs to up her game and get more air time.

She obviously just hired a make up artist, speech coach, and stylist for her recent
on air performances.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. The inmates are going to run (and ruin) the asylum,

[CrispyQ]

3. Wasn't five members needed to sponsor a resolution a previous concession of his? -nt

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Yes

but then the young extremist Byron Donalds, who was nominated 3 times yesterday, demanded a concession of needing "only one", at least according to what a CSPAN host had mentioned was reported by sources who were following the negotiations.

As a note, this guy represents the district that got devastated by Hurricane Ian less than 4 months ago.

Yes - Ft. Meyers, Naples, Cape Coral - ALL of this is his jurisdiction.

[ancianita]

23. Good to know, thanks.

[Marthe48]

4. kev is used to negotiating with terrorists

He's not good at it, though. Remember the phone call telling traitor to stop the attack on the Capitol? Big fail. So this current hostage situation will swirl down the toilet, too.

[ancianita]

5. However this works out,

behind the scenes, Koch and his network are loving their takeover of rules and whatever skewing of minority and individual power that can exact. Koch is on a mission to dismantle this govt one bag man (and loon) at a time. He's already stated more than once that the US Constitution is a failed document. He's been working on getting an Article 5 (?) constitutional convention to make his fascist dismantling happen.

Moving the mainstream hard right has always been authoritarian oligarchs' goal. Power politics over empowerment politics has always been their means.

[ificandream]

6. Lawrence O'Donnell called them "legislative terrorists." I think that's quite accurate.

That's what we should call them.

[ancianita]

7. Aguilar, Clarke and Jeffries are hitting this hard on CSPAN right now.

[Marthe48]

8. here's something for kev to note

Inigo Montoya vs. Count Tyrone:

Only that count tyrone promised everything and died anyway.

[ThoughtCriminal]

9. I doubt he can get enough

I predict that he will make a minor gain today - maybe 2-5 votes. That may encourage him to stay in for another day or two.

But there are probably 6-10 hard liners that will keep voting against him. Eventually, he has to drop out and they will get someone wacky enough to get 218 GOP votes. It almost certainly has to be someone who voted against certification of the 2020 Presidential Election.

[PatSeg]

13. And with those concessions,

he could lose more moderate votes. It is over, he has to let it go.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. THIS 👆👆👆

[BumRushDaShow]

17. "they will get someone wacky enough to get 218 GOP votes"

There are members who are GOP who are part of the "Problem Solvers Caucus" elected from swing districts (some BARELY winning their seats), who will not go for the far right loons. These are people who are currently voting for McCarthy but if McCarthy drops out, they are NOT going to vote for a Boebert.

This is why Scalise's name keeps coming up as a "known" far-righter but a couple notches back from extreme, who is also knowledgeable (having been in a couple leadership roles) of the inner workings. But then to get someone like him in over the swampy-20, they would need (D) support and right now, that is DOA.

[ancianita]

24. Amen. We know the loons by what they do, not what they say.

Here comes the 7th count.

[News Junkie]

11. So anytime one of them gets worked up, we go through this again?

Would there have to then be a floor vote whenever someone forced a resolution?

[PatSeg]

12. "Kevin, they don't like you!!!"

"Nothing you do will change that!"

Meanwhile, even if he did manage to persuade a few of them to support him, he could easily lose some moderates in the process as his concessions are too extreme.

[ancianita]

14. FOX is being shown on CSPAN, showing Donalds saying that he's switching his vote to Jordan.

smfh...

[BumRushDaShow]

18. LOL

(I haven't turned it on yet)

[ancianita]

19. Now some CSPAN interviewee is claiming that Dems have 6 rethugs willing to vote Jeffries in.

[ancianita]

20. Got his name. Arson Horsford, D from Las Vegas, NV. Great name. Gotta remember that one.

[BumRushDaShow]

21. I expect there may be some

but they would not be willing to do so unless this happens -

[ancianita]

22. I hear you.

Nice gif

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Will given that sewer-Grates nominated 45 (who is under "Other" now)

that might be something that could trigger some alarm bells about where this process is going.

[ancianita]

26. Oh shit. What a disgusting move.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. And he did it with a smug and smary look on his face

and got applause from his party.

[ancianita]

28. Jack Smith. My only hope for this criminal pardon seeker.

[ancianita]

29. Come on, Jack. Help a democracy out, will ya.

[ancianita]

32. "Others" is now up to 3 votes in the 8th vote round.

Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)

[tirebiter]

41. Jeffries would have to live on McCarthys deal.

Jeffries would not last a day in that environment.

[dalton99a]

15. McCarthy is effectively their puppet.

[Wonder Why]

30. I hear that next, he might offer his wife and kids to Matt Gaetz for his vote. He

already offered his parents Roberta and Owen McCarthy as a sacrifice to Trump for his support.

[SunSeeker]

31. And it didn't work. nt

[Martin68]

33. The concessions he offers would make his leadership meaningless. He is willing to sign the House

over to the Freedom Caucus, guaranteeing permanent dysfunction.

[Marthe48]

34. If the concessions work, can they be repealed when Dems get the gavel?

If kev wins at any point, because he's willing to get on his knees and stay there, and the r's put rule changes in place, are they permanent?

[BumRushDaShow]

35. Rules can be changed with a majority vote

but if they are the Chairs and make the Rules, and pass them, unless they lose support from their conference to keep the Rule, there's not much that can be done.

[Marthe48]

36. Thanks

I'm trying to look past this disgrace and see if the damage can be fixed some day.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. You can hope that before the next election

Santos gets booted and the Freedumb Caucus get frog-marched, and we can get a majority back.

Boebert literally almost lost her seat and I just saw the thread on DU regarding MTG about to be "outed" for crimes by Ali Alexander (a J6 criminal who has decided to cooperate with DOJ).

[Marthe48]

39. believe me

I'm watching for all that you mentioned. Plus gaetz, the criminals, the traitors. Clean them all out, and we'd have that super majority someone hopefully mentioned

I saw that a.a. was threatening mtg. I'd like to see something come of that!

[BWdem4life]

38. So, instead of a Speaker he'll be a marionette.

Why would anyone want that?

[Wonder Why]

40. He already is.He sold his soul and is trying to sell the country for a title.