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BumRushDaShow

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Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:37 PM Jan 2023

Police: Idaho slaying suspect's DNA found at crime scene

Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: AP

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- The DNA of the man accused of killing four University of Idaho students was found on a knife sheath recovered at the crime scene and cellphone data shows that in the months before the attack, he was in the area of the victims' home multiple times, an investigator said in court documents unsealed Thursday.

The affidavit written by Brett Payne, a police corporal in Moscow, Idaho, was made public minutes before Bryan Kohberger, a 28-year-old criminal justice doctoral student at nearby Washington State University, was due to appear in court after being extradited Wednesday from Pennsylvania, where his parents live and where he was arrested. He is charged with four counts of first-degree murder and felony burglary in the Nov. 13 attack.

According to the newly unsealed court documents, traces of DNA from a lone male later determined to be Kohberger were found on the button of a leather knife sheath found in the rental home where the victims were killed. The sheath had a U.S. Marine Corps insignia on it, though there's no record of Kohberger having served in the military.

A woman who also lived at the house told police that she awoke to the sound of crying during the predawn attack and opened her bedroom door to find a masked man dressed in black, according to the court filing.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/idaho-pennsylvania-indiana-education-homicide-9051569249b988b5afaa2414aa3f9bc8



AFFIDAVIT (PDF) - https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wfmz.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/fb/ffb81882-8d1c-11ed-bff7-ab41187d4cd8/63b7069748a45.file.pdf

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Article updated.

AP doing their musical chair headline changes.

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Police: Housemate of slain Idaho students saw man in black

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A woman who lived at the home where four University of Idaho students were killed awoke to the sound of crying that night to find a masked man in black clothing who walked past her and toward a sliding glass door, an investigator said in court documents unsealed Thursday.

The unidentified housemate, who wasn't harmed in the attack, told authorities she opened her second-floor door at around 4 a.m. after hearing the crying and then stood in "frozen shock" as the man, whom she didn't recognize, walked past her, the police investigator said. She then went back into her room and locked the door.

Kohberger was flown from Pennsylvania, where he was arrested, to Idaho on Wednesday and was due to appear Thursday in a court in Moscow, the college town where the attack happened. He is charged with four counts of first-degree murder and felony burglary in the closely watched case that struck fear into the community along the Idaho-Washington border.

His attorney in Pennsylvania, where his parents live and where he was arrested, has said he is eager to be exonerated.


THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.


Police: Idaho slaying suspect's DNA found at crime scene

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- The DNA of the man accused of killing four University of Idaho students was found on a knife sheath at the crime scene, an investigator said in court documents unsealed Thursday.

The affidavit written by Moscow, Idaho Police Cpl. Brett Payne was made public just minutes before a court hearing began for the man accused in the Nov. 13 deaths, 28-year-old Bryan Kohberger. Kohberger arrived in Idaho late Wednesday on a law enforcement jet and was handed over to local authorities after his arrest in the case last week in Pennsylvania.

He is charged with four counts of first-degree murder and felony burglary in the closely watched case that has grabbed the nation's attention and rocked the small college town on the Idaho-Washington border.

His attorney in Pennsylvania, where his parents live and where he was arrested, has said he is eager to be exonerated.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.
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Police: Idaho slaying suspect's DNA found at crime scene (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 OP
Didn't learn his criminal forensic lessons too well, it would seem. hlthe2b Jan 2023 #1
Getting a PhD in how to be a serial killer didn't pay off. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #2
They don't teach you in those classes that murder is a dirty business. joshcryer Jan 2023 #22
The thing with the cell data: There are only 4 towers in the town LeftInTX Jan 2023 #23
Actually they are constantly monitoring signal strength localroger Jan 2023 #24
It's Faux pas Jan 2023 #3
Killer walked right past one of surviving students and out the sliding glass doors. Cattledog Jan 2023 #4
But she didn't call 911 then, did she? I wonder why. deurbano Jan 2023 #5
She probably had no idea her roommates had been killed. NH Ethylene Jan 2023 #6
She might not have had her phone on her and was scared the individual was waiting for her. Cattledog Jan 2023 #7
Her inaction to call 911 and just going back to sleep is one that will haunt her forever Red Pest Jan 2023 #9
Probably Corgigal Jan 2023 #17
"Surviving" being a roommate in that house will certainly be its own challenge. deurbano Jan 2023 #18
I can see why they waited to reveal this detail. NH Ethylene Jan 2023 #8
Wow, he left his knife sheath at the scene! SunSeeker Jan 2023 #10
his lawyers will say... getagrip_already Jan 2023 #11
The same guy who took his white Elantra and parked it at the crime scene? SunSeeker Jan 2023 #14
lots of white cars out there...... getagrip_already Jan 2023 #15
It wasn't just any white car. But yeah, he could get a crazy OJ jury. SunSeeker Jan 2023 #16
Here's the affidavit PSPS Jan 2023 #12
Thanks and will add to the OP BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #13
+1 dalton99a Jan 2023 #19
Thank you for posting that. betsuni Jan 2023 #21
No judgment, but I wonder why the roommate who saw him spotthebird Jan 2023 #20

Irish_Dem

(47,500 posts)
2. Getting a PhD in how to be a serial killer didn't pay off.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:40 PM
Jan 2023

He must have slept through the class on DNA evidence.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
22. They don't teach you in those classes that murder is a dirty business.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 08:42 PM
Jan 2023

And you are liable to make mistakes like leaving evidence behind.

He thought he would kill some drunk college students quietly and quickly in a Dexter-esque way. What happened instead is there was a struggle and he lost his sheath during it. Meanwhile they teach all about "pinging cell phones for crimes" in forensic class, but they don't teach about "pinging cell phones in times of no crime," which caught him stalking the area on multiple occasions.

Now if he was truly a genius, truly devious, truly psychotic, he could have reported his knife stolen, with a report and all. And he could have made a friend in the area who he has, on record, meetings with, with credit card receipts and all. All in the area. This is made for TV stuff.

Nope he thought about killing some students, went in, did it, left behind the one piece of evidence that would nail him, and then panicked and left and came back for the evidence. The whole while shitting himself.

LeftInTX

(25,599 posts)
23. The thing with the cell data: There are only 4 towers in the town
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 03:59 AM
Jan 2023

The towers only pick up the vicinity. They don't pinpoint the way GPS does.

It's pretty much like that with most cell towers. They pick up which tower your phone pings, but it doesn't provide your exact location. My phone would pick up a tower that's a mile or two away from me.

localroger

(3,634 posts)
24. Actually they are constantly monitoring signal strength
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 10:39 AM
Jan 2023

As you drive from tower A toward tower B tower A notes that your signal strength is decreasing, and tower B is listening in. At some point tower B will signal for a switch-over because it has better signal than A. They also negotiate with your phone for its transmitter strength to conserve your battery when you're close to the tower. All this information can be used to triangulate your location to within a few hundred feet. Not as good as GPS, but good enough for other purposes.

Cattledog

(5,919 posts)
4. Killer walked right past one of surviving students and out the sliding glass doors.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:51 PM
Jan 2023

She froze in shock and locked her door.

NH Ethylene

(30,817 posts)
6. She probably had no idea her roommates had been killed.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:47 PM
Jan 2023

I expect she thought he was someone who was visiting one of the others.

I wonder who was crying and why. Maybe one of the people who were killed but not yet dead? If it was the other surviving roommate, surely they would have called 911.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
9. Her inaction to call 911 and just going back to sleep is one that will haunt her forever
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 02:51 PM
Jan 2023

The locked door would not have protected her, if the murderer wanted to attack her. I am surprised that seeing a strange person walk by and hearing crying didn't at least trigger a response of calling out, "are you OK?" Very sad.

If the DNA evidence is correct, then it is extremely likely that they got caught the correct person. The white Hyundai sedan is at least supportive of the DNA evidence, but alone would not prove much. Same with the cell phone data - supportive, but alone would prove little. Together with the DNA evidence, one should be able to build an extremely strong case.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
17. Probably
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 05:19 PM
Jan 2023

hid under a blanket in her closet. Humans can shut down. Might have waited until a cop entered her room. Poor child.

I hope her family changes her name, and moves her to a lovely place.

Happened to one survivor at the Tate murders too.

deurbano

(2,896 posts)
18. "Surviving" being a roommate in that house will certainly be its own challenge.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 06:05 PM
Jan 2023

And they are so young.

SunSeeker

(51,744 posts)
10. Wow, he left his knife sheath at the scene!
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 03:06 PM
Jan 2023

All those criminal justice classes didn't help this incel dumbass.

getagrip_already

(14,880 posts)
11. his lawyers will say...
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 04:11 PM
Jan 2023

"Someone" left his knife sheath there, but it wasn't their client. They will claim he lost that knife months ago, somewhere on campus.

It isn't a solid lock, though it adds to the pile.

getagrip_already

(14,880 posts)
15. lots of white cars out there......
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 05:06 PM
Jan 2023

Did anyone get the plate number? Was he picked up on any security cameras?

It's still just circumstantial. Nothing wrong with circumstantial evidence, but there are a lot of ways for a lawyer to dispute it.

I'm not defending the guy. He sounds guilty. Just pointing out that dna evidence on a personal item is not a slam dunk.

spotthebird

(171 posts)
20. No judgment, but I wonder why the roommate who saw him
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:16 PM
Jan 2023

didn't call for help? Everyone was dead by then so it wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome. Bryan would have been gone by the time the police arrived. So although it didn't change anything it's an unusual reaction to what she saw and heard.

Maybe she thought it was a joke? She didn't believe her eyes? No one could believe what actually happened, it sounded to her that others were awake so if there was a danger someone else would have alerted?

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