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groundloop

(13,834 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 02:20 PM Jan 2023

Republican McCarthy gains support in 12th U.S. House leadership vote

Source: Reuters

Republican Kevin McCarthy on Friday picked up some support from right-wing hardliners in the U.S. House of Representatives who have blocked his speakership bid, but it did not appear to be enough to end the deepest congressional dysfunction since before the Civil War.

In a 12th round of voting in four days, at least 10 Republicans who have opposed McCarthy voted for him on Friday, in a sign that his prospects may be improving after he offered the faction a range of concessions.

But at least five fellow Republicans voted against him as the roll was called, meaning he would likely fall short of the votes needed to win the speaker's gavel.

[snip]

Despite his optimism, some fellow Republican lawmakers said they did not expect him to garner enough votes from the 20 hardliners to ensure a majority that so far has eluded him.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-speaker-fight-enters-fourth-day-amid-antebellum-era-dysfunction-2023-01-06/

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iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
8. McCarthy got 213 votes, Jordan/other guy got 7 votes. Now the rethugs will turn up the pressure
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jan 2023

on those 7 to convert 5 of them to get McCarthy to the 218 he needs.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
2. I know this is a pipe dream but....
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 02:34 PM
Jan 2023

It would be nice if a few Repuglicans with ethics and love of country and respect for the Constitution would cross over and vote for Jeffries just on principle alone. There are no good repugs left, unfortunately.

groundloop

(13,834 posts)
7. It would be more realistic to elect a moderate, reasonable GOPer (if one can be found)
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 02:59 PM
Jan 2023

We don't have the majority anymore and it's unrealistic to imagine that a Democrat could win the race for Speaker. However, and this is probably pretty far fetched also, if all the Democrats got behind this mythical reasonable GOPer it would only take a handful of GOPer votes to put him/her over the top. There are quite a few GOPers in the House who'd be a far better choice for Speaker than McCarthy, plus with this scenario the whacko magats wouldn't be given key positions.

Polybius

(21,891 posts)
12. They would have to be promised something
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 04:10 PM
Jan 2023

No way would they vote for Jeffries without anything in return.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
3. Looks like Kevin has been right all along?
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 02:36 PM
Jan 2023

He just has to hold on for death life and he will win.

Lonestarblue

(13,470 posts)
4. McCarthy has promised the insurrectionists positions on key committees, often replacing more
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 02:45 PM
Jan 2023

senior Republicans who would be in line for those committees. I would think those Republicans would not be happy to be cast aside for the likes of ignorant Boebert.

I wonder if McCarthy’s strategy is to get elected and then renege on his promises because even if one of the insurrectionists calls for his removal, that is unlikely to happen because I think it takes a 2/3rds vote to remove. Otherwise, the insurrectionists will be on some important committees, especially for finance, and they will try to shut the government down. They would not care about the credit of the US or a global recession because they would blame it all on Biden in 2024 and their voters would fall for it. Jeez, I despise these people.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
6. The green women keeps talking about the Holman rule and how they are going to defund
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 02:57 PM
Jan 2023

Everything. Per usual she has no f..king idea how that works!

They are going to make all kinds of noise and get absolutely nothing done. We’ll be taking back the congress come ‘24!

 

bobbyar

(63 posts)
14. she's a walk about !
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 08:00 PM
Jan 2023

Mean's walk's around & has no clue what's going on in the real world . lost in space. Empty vessel of a person .

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
15. Ha!, good one.
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 10:37 PM
Jan 2023

She is going to look and sound even more ridiculous if they put her in some high ranking position

 

bobbyar

(63 posts)
16. very much so !
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 10:44 PM
Jan 2023

But , sadly U.S.Government don't have adult day care ! might in a bill for house of representatives for future congress critters.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
17. It only takes a simple majority to remove the speaker.
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 10:44 PM
Jan 2023

He wouldn’t be removed from Congress, just replaced as Speaker.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
5. I think in the end the total attendance will be what wins it for him.
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 02:53 PM
Jan 2023

He'll need fewer votes with fewer in attendance
It seems that he's just not going to give in to the BIGGER idiots like Gaetz & Bohbert

quakerboy

(14,860 posts)
10. He already took the opportunity
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 03:19 PM
Jan 2023

to "give in" to what they wanted. Their only real remaining demand is for a batshit crazy hard right speaker instead of a crazy hard right speaker.

Its a mistake to think he wasn't happy to give them everything else they asked for (aside from the rule changes that may reduce his power slightly) because he wants it too.

Deminpenn

(17,503 posts)
11. Still 6 "never Kevin's"
Fri Jan 6, 2023, 03:50 PM
Jan 2023

after vote number 13. There was 1 Dem absent, but he's back now raising the threshold by 1 vote.

If both Buck and the other R return that will up it back to 218.

There's only 5, but there may as well be 105. These holdouts want "not Kevin". The only thing McCarthy can offer them is to withdraw his name. I think he's given away everything else.



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