96% of flights with COVID. Decoupling of hospitalizations & wastewater versus cases
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Source: Dr. Eric Ding (former 16yr Harvard Epidemiologist)
We need to talk about how COVID hospitalization is surging in Massachusetts- doubling in a month - but cases are flat. But is COVID truly flat? No, not at all if you look at the wastewater levels of SARSCov2 RNA in Boston. Thus we have now lost the reliability of simple case counts. But unlike the good uncoupling of low hospitalization vs rising cases, we now have the opposite bad uncoupling of rising hospitalization vs flat cases. Wastewater seems to be only only good early warning indicator now.
Speaking of water water surveillance 96% of flights in a study of airplane toilet water in SE Asia region last year found SARS2 virus. We have to use this as a warning indicator that likely most flights have someone with COVID in this pandemic era. If you dont still mask on flight you are playing with fire playing Russian roulette with your health and Long COVID.
Hospitalization ⬆️ 2x surging
but cases flat??
Whats going on is testing has crashed and #COVID19 case numbers are unreliable.
📌 Cases and hospitalizations are uncouplingbut in the WRONG WAY
opposite of last year.
📌 Wastewater doesnt lie. See wastewater data from Massachusetts below.
📌 More wastewater data: SarsCoV-2 was detected in wastewater from 95.7% of flights
📌 Driven by the highly evasive and infectious #XBB15 variant.
Dont ignore the #Kraken. #MaskUp
Read more: https://drericding.substack.com/p/96-of-flights-with-covid-decoupling?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=233203&post_id=95152506&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
This is not opinion or analysis. This is medical fact, from renowned epidemiologist Dr. Eric Ding.
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paleotn
(22,069 posts)It's not like Covid magically disappeared when the mask came off for commercial travel. It's still around doing its thing. We'll simply have to learn to live with it.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,877 posts)Good article, but belongs in GD or OpEd.
dem4decades
(13,966 posts)FBaggins
(28,703 posts)The virus has been found in fecal matter several months after even mild infections. And while waste tanks are emptied after each flight, they aren't decontaminated. It's no surprise at all that any given flight has multiple people who have been infected at some point in the last six months.
It's a respiratory virus. Why weren't they testing the air filtration?
BigmanPigman
(55,014 posts)"People who haven't had COVID will likely catch XBB.1.5 and many will get reinfected, experts say
Variant XBB.1.5 is very contagious, meaning everyone is at risk even if you've already been infected. As the U.S. enters year 3 of the pandemic, here's an update on the state of COVID."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2023/01/06/covid-update-xbb-variant-symptoms-reinfection/10995204002/
Japan is currently experiencing their 2nd highest outbreak.....
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/
I see about 6 masks every time I go into a crowded supermarket in Southern CA. This is beyond ridiculous. Why doesn't anyone mask anymore? Did the right-wing's politicizing of Covid make us this way?
red Missouri and still mask because I take chemo and visit parent in nursing home and dont want to give it to my husband. He still masks as well.
BigmanPigman
(55,014 posts)Americans combined.
IronLionZion
(51,110 posts)Maskholes will be breathing on you in crowded lines and waiting areas of airports. Seasonal winter spikes are each year now. Massachusetts is highly vaccinated so I wouldn't count on that alone.
Good luck DUers, be safe.
LetMyPeopleVote
(178,594 posts)The last time I flew I masked the entire trip
agingdem
(8,825 posts)the guy sitting in front of me was coughing and sneezing..no mask and no covering his mouth...the woman sitting next to him looked uncomfortable and asked the flight attendant if she could change seats..full flight.. but by then she had already been exposed and, more than likely, infected
paleotn
(22,069 posts)I got so use to it in 2021 when we started traveling again that it feels weird to not wear one on a commercial flight.
SheltieLover
(79,658 posts)Ty for sharing.
I have been wearing an N95 at grocery store & other places since 2/2020 because of Dr. Ding's alerts.
No intention of stopping this practice anytime soon!
PSPS
(15,300 posts)FBaggins
(28,703 posts)And can compare them to norms.
The more unreported cases we speculate occur
the less deadly the virus currently is.
paleotn
(22,069 posts)Or did I miss that notice back in 2020 about mandatory testing?
cstanleytech
(28,402 posts)its been posted here rather than over in the science forum.
paleotn
(22,069 posts)of levels of infection. It completely misses the asymptomatic and those with varying levels of mild symptoms who never get terribly sick. That slice of infections is and was a guesstimate at best.
It's endemic now globally since China finally accepted the inevitable. Vax up, and mask up if you feel the need. It ain't going away.
Omaha Steve
(108,974 posts)Source is not a NEWS blog.
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