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ificandream

(11,846 posts)
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 02:39 PM Jan 2023

Conservatives take aim at tenure for university professors

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Associated Press/By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH

MISSION, Kan. (AP) — When Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick asked Texas colleges to disavow critical race theory, the University of Texas faculty approved a resolution defending their freedom to decide for themselves how to teach about race.

Patrick said he took it as a message to “go to hell.”

In turn, Patrick, a Republican, said it was time to consider holding the faculty accountable, by targeting one of the top perks of their jobs.

“Maybe we need to look at tenure,” Patrick said at a news conference in November.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/politics-colleges-and-universities-florida-state-government-texas-education-4f0fe0c5c18ed227fabae3744e8ff51d



Another move taken from the School of DeSatan: When they don't agree with you, hurt them. They'll keep doing this until we vote them out of business.
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Conservatives take aim at tenure for university professors (Original Post) ificandream Jan 2023 OP
Revenge politics don't set well with the Courts. Even in Texas. Or the suits will never end and Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #1
Good way Rebl2 Jan 2023 #2
GQP will be in all the psychologists' offices next bucolic_frolic Jan 2023 #3
In my crystal ball ...... Lovie777 Jan 2023 #4
I like it Lulu KC Jan 2023 #9
It's not a coincidence that the best universities tend to be in blue states. paleotn Jan 2023 #12
That works for me IF we can cap the amount tax dollars from blue states going to bail out red states Samrob Jan 2023 #19
The stupid hurts Stuckinthebush Jan 2023 #5
Half the people I know that live in TX hate it there already SouthernDem4ever Jan 2023 #14
This says it all right here. Diamond_Dog Jan 2023 #6
Maybe its time to remove the military bases from Texas, and to stop all highway funding being paid turbinetree Jan 2023 #7
I agree - I live here and can testify that we have some of the dumbest SOBs on the planet walkingman Jan 2023 #8
I spent one summer in Texas when I was kid at the air force base in Fort Worth when it was up and turbinetree Jan 2023 #24
Why isn't he lonely bird Jan 2023 #10
They are NOT 'conservatives.' elleng Jan 2023 #11
A reporter should ask DeSantis Casady1 Jan 2023 #13
All you have to do is talk to someone that graduated from Liberty University SouthernDem4ever Jan 2023 #15
OK, fine. The highly educated experts in their fields.... paleotn Jan 2023 #16
Calling tenure a "perk" is insulting in this context, AP caraher Jan 2023 #17
Bingo. mjvpi Jan 2023 #23
Texas is home to some top-rank state universities, but perhaps for not much longer. DavidDvorkin Jan 2023 #18
Roll Tide!! walkingman Jan 2023 #21
Good God, I'm not referring to football but to academics. DavidDvorkin Jan 2023 #25
I'm referring to football....when I see a big red A that is what I think of...."Rammer Jammer" 😎 walkingman Jan 2023 #26
New headline: Red Mountain Jan 2023 #20
Fascism marches on Javaman Jan 2023 #22
After a review by forum hosts, locking........ Omaha Steve Jan 2023 #27
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
1. Revenge politics don't set well with the Courts. Even in Texas. Or the suits will never end and
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 02:41 PM
Jan 2023

the Justices will need to cancel summer breaks. Nope. Theatre. Again.

Rebl2

(17,868 posts)
2. Good way
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 02:41 PM
Jan 2023

to lose professors and possibly students.

bucolic_frolic

(55,513 posts)
3. GQP will be in all the psychologists' offices next
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 02:51 PM
Jan 2023

Lovie777

(23,313 posts)
4. In my crystal ball ......
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:01 PM
Jan 2023

I can see red states universities, colleges, and schools 0-12 failing in attendance, and Blue States accommodating them, Blue States flourishing in health, education, wealth, decent paying jobs with benefits, and economy in the vast of democracy, including flourishing in civil rights, women rights, voting rights. Compassion for humankind, and total respect for different faiths and religions.

Red state competing in who's going to be the cruelest.

Lulu KC

(8,898 posts)
9. I like it
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:31 PM
Jan 2023

Thanks!

paleotn

(22,500 posts)
12. It's not a coincidence that the best universities tend to be in blue states.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 04:08 PM
Jan 2023

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
19. That works for me IF we can cap the amount tax dollars from blue states going to bail out red states
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 06:41 PM
Jan 2023

from their deplorable state and local ta less) laws. Perhaps tie relief $$ to population???

Stuckinthebush

(11,206 posts)
5. The stupid hurts
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:07 PM
Jan 2023

Massive brain drain from Texas will occur. Loss of students. Loss of income. Texas will be a filled with hate, idiocy and tumbleweeds.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
14. Half the people I know that live in TX hate it there already
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 04:14 PM
Jan 2023

Now they are working on the other half.

Diamond_Dog

(40,823 posts)
6. This says it all right here.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:08 PM
Jan 2023

“They’ve latched onto the idea that many totalitarian regimes have done over the years, which is if you can stop students from learning about ideas that a political party in power disagrees with, that is one way to stop those ideas from existing in the society at all,” said Andrew Gothard, president of United Faculty of Florida.

turbinetree

(27,614 posts)
7. Maybe its time to remove the military bases from Texas, and to stop all highway funding being paid
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:16 PM
Jan 2023

for on the federal level by taxpayers nation wide....and to shut down all the Federal Airports....or not give them any federal money to update the air traffic control system and remove all TRACON flight centers..........you want to play some game ....

walkingman

(11,034 posts)
8. I agree - I live here and can testify that we have some of the dumbest SOBs on the planet
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:29 PM
Jan 2023

here that elected these sorry bastards. They've tried before to shutdown bases in Texas and after the moaning and groaning about jobs, etc. the government backed down. Did I mention they are some of the stupidest voters on the planet - try living around them. Texas has not always been this way but since '94 it has just gotten worse and worse - maybe it's the air pollution?

turbinetree

(27,614 posts)
24. I spent one summer in Texas when I was kid at the air force base in Fort Worth when it was up and
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:20 PM
Jan 2023

and running...and then during the late sixties I was hitch hiking to Woodstock from California and I can still remember the person that picked us up.....and him saying jump on in the rig, where you heading.....but now I can just imagine the insanity, I am all in on defunding the federal system in the state, they want to whine well lets have at it....game on....

lonely bird

(2,993 posts)
10. Why isn't he
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:35 PM
Jan 2023

In jail?

elleng

(141,926 posts)
11. They are NOT 'conservatives.'
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 03:37 PM
Jan 2023
 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
13. A reporter should ask DeSantis
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 04:10 PM
Jan 2023

You attended what would be perceived to be a liberal university. Were you punished by the liberal professors in grading? Where you damaged by being exposed to different philosophies?
It seems to me you excelled in your GPA and you were able to attend a premier law school.
Please explain the harm?

For the other “conservative legislators “ You have had your children for 18 years and you have exposed them to the”conservative philosophy”, your children will only be in college for 4 years. Are your children so weak minded that they can’t be exposed to a different philosophy?

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
15. All you have to do is talk to someone that graduated from Liberty University
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jan 2023

It answered all my questions.

paleotn

(22,500 posts)
16. OK, fine. The highly educated experts in their fields....
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jan 2023

leave red Amurka in droves. Can't say that's a bad thing.

caraher

(6,364 posts)
17. Calling tenure a "perk" is insulting in this context, AP
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 04:38 PM
Jan 2023

In fact, it's precisely what is happening here that makes tenure necessary - the protection of academic freedom from the depredations of political pressure.

mjvpi

(1,933 posts)
23. Bingo.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:07 PM
Jan 2023

DavidDvorkin

(20,626 posts)
18. Texas is home to some top-rank state universities, but perhaps for not much longer.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 04:43 PM
Jan 2023

walkingman

(11,034 posts)
21. Roll Tide!!
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:05 PM
Jan 2023

DavidDvorkin

(20,626 posts)
25. Good God, I'm not referring to football but to academics.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:24 PM
Jan 2023

walkingman

(11,034 posts)
26. I'm referring to football....when I see a big red A that is what I think of...."Rammer Jammer" 😎
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 09:00 PM
Jan 2023

Red Mountain

(2,367 posts)
20. New headline:
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 06:44 PM
Jan 2023

Not content with vilifying teachers in grade school conservatives aim to denigrate all educators.

Javaman

(65,929 posts)
22. Fascism marches on
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 08:06 PM
Jan 2023

UT is a private school not part of the Texas state university system. And rightly so, they told old Danny boy to go piss up a tree

UT has a massive endowment and a tremendous amount of political power.

I think dickhead Dan just bit off more than he can chew

Omaha Steve

(109,600 posts)
27. After a review by forum hosts, locking........
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 09:45 PM
Jan 2023

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