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Omaha Steve

(99,649 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:31 AM Jan 2023

'No amnesty!': Brazilian protests demand jail for rioters

Source: AP

By DAVID BILLER and FELIPE MELLO today

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — “No amnesty! No amnesty! No amnesty!”

The chant reverberated off the walls of the jam-packed hall at the University of Sao Paulo’s law college on Monday afternoon. Hours later, it was the rallying cry for thousands of Brazilians who streamed into the streets of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo, penned on protest posters and banners.

The words are a demand for retribution against supporters of former President Jair Bolsonaro who stormed Brazil’s capital Sunday, and those who enabled the rampage.

“These people need to be punished, the people who ordered it need to be punished, those who gave money for it need to be punished,” Bety Amin, a 61-year-old therapist, said on Sao Paulo’s main boulevard. The word “DEMOCRACY” stretched across the back of her shirt. “They don’t represent Brazil. We represent Brazil.”



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'No amnesty!': Brazilian protests demand jail for rioters (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2023 OP
I hope they're working on extradition for Bolsinaro & Santos! SheltieLover Jan 2023 #1
Why was he allowed in the country? gab13by13 Jan 2023 #3
He was still president when he came and was on a diplomatic visa AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #5
So when did his diplomacy end? gab13by13 Jan 2023 #8
Bolsonaro came to the US on a diplomatic visa 0n December30, allegedly for medical treatment. Beastly Boy Jan 2023 #14
I couldn't agree more! SheltieLover Jan 2023 #6
Was it a nice letter or a stern letter? gab13by13 Jan 2023 #9
It was a very nice letter. Beastly Boy Jan 2023 #15
Meanwhile Deep State Witch Jan 2023 #2
Rachel had on a fantastic guest last night. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #4
People in Brazil are no doubt wondering "what kind of shithole country allows them to leave?" SheltieLover Jan 2023 #7
Americans???? Traildogbob Jan 2023 #11
America's broken border system must be fixed! Mawspam2 Jan 2023 #10
like it republianmushroom Jan 2023 #12
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IN THE USA! ffr Jan 2023 #13
Lock these terrorists up LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #16

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
3. Why was he allowed in the country?
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:40 AM
Jan 2023

He only has a business Visa, what business is he doing here?

People don't ask the right questions. It is obvious that his coming to Florida was planned by someone.

I know when I worked out of the country on business I was usually questioned about why locals couldn't do the work? I once worked in Moncton, NB and my work Visa ran out, I had to drive to Maine to the border where my company sent a new Visa.

laws only apply to the unwashed.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,024 posts)
5. He was still president when he came and was on a diplomatic visa
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:47 AM
Jan 2023

Not sure where you got that he was on a business visa. Link?

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
8. So when did his diplomacy end?
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 12:27 PM
Jan 2023

What diplomatic "business" is he doing now? Does his visa still allow him to be in the US? When I worked in foreign countries once I got in the country that didn't allow me to stay there forever. When my work visa expired I had to either get a new visa or leave the country.

I apologize for being wrong about his type of visa, but it does nothing to dispute my question, why is he still here? is he on diplomatic business, with whom, Ron DeSantis, Steve Bannon?

Beastly Boy

(9,359 posts)
14. Bolsonaro came to the US on a diplomatic visa 0n December30, allegedly for medical treatment.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 05:09 PM
Jan 2023

He planned to stay in the US until the end of January, 20 days from now. Lula da Silva became Brazil's president on January 1, ten days ago. The anti-government riots in Brazil happened on January 6, four days ago. A US A-1 (diplomatic) visa is effective for 30 days, regardless of changes in a recipient's status.

So, to answer your questions,
-No, he is not doing any diplomatic business now, nor does his status as an A-1 recipient demand him to do any.
-Yes, his visa still allows him to be in the US, until it is officially revoked or suspended or until it expires.
-When Bolsonaro's visa expires, he will have to leave the country or get a new visa, just like you did. If the visa is revoked or suspended, Bolsonaro will have to leave the country, just like you would.

Bolsonaro recently expressed intention to leave before his visa expires. If you are proposing that these circumstances call for the US government to drop everything and take immediate action that will generate international diplomatic uproar, not to mention create weeks of fodder for global conservative media to bash Biden, please, lower your expectations.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. I couldn't agree more!
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:50 AM
Jan 2023

Fed issued a letter telling him to leave. Was losted on DU a couple of days ago.

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
4. Rachel had on a fantastic guest last night.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 11:45 AM
Jan 2023

he said that violence is a part of the authoritarian playbook. Destroying government buildings is a part of the playbook that is meant to diminish the value of government agencies. The expert said that if the people committing physical crimes are not held accountable that only confirms the weakness of the government they are trying to overthrow. he said it is a good sign that Brazil immediately arrested the insurrectionists, it sent a message that there will be consequences.

Traildogbob

(8,744 posts)
11. Americans????
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 02:10 PM
Jan 2023

Can we call MTG and her cult Americans?
If these were not nasty brown people and she could do it without getting any brown in her, MTG would be down there on a knee praying with them in jail. With Bannon, who pushed for the attacks. Let’s Banish Bannon, who should be in jail here for multiple reasons AND conviction, to the streets of Brazil so those that are furious can carry out their justice. All those nasty shirts would not protect him from that beating.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
13. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IN THE USA!
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:46 PM
Jan 2023

If you want the Vietnam war to end, you protest in the street.

If you want the insurrectionists jailed and their leaders too, you protest in the street.

We need a cohesive leader to get the protests started. We're ready.

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