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Omaha Steve

(109,128 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 08:00 AM Jan 2023

Biden 'surprised' government records found at old office

Source: AP

By ZEKE MILLER 51 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden said he was surprised when informed that government records were found by his attorneys at his former office space in Washington. He was asked about the issue after the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee requested that the U.S. intelligence community conduct a “damage assessment” of potentially classified documents.

Speaking to reporters in Mexico City on Tuesday, Biden said his attorneys “did what they should have done” when they immediately called the National Archives about the discovery at the offices of the Penn Biden Center. He kept an office there after he left the vice presidency in 2017 until shortly before he launched his Democratic presidential campaign in 2019.

The White House confirmed that the Department of Justice was reviewing “a small number of documents with classified markings” found at the office.

“I was briefed about this discovery and surprised to learn that there are any government records that were taken there to that office,” Biden said in his first comments since news of the Nov. 2, 2022, document discovery emerged Monday. He added that “I don’t know what’s in the documents” and that his lawyers had suggested he not ask.



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Biden 'surprised' government records found at old office (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2023 OP
I think they should check video surveillance to see if anyone was there. SheltieLover Jan 2023 #1
+1 - I was thinking the same. CentralMass Jan 2023 #3
Sheltie you read my mind. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #6
but not a good set up Marthe48 Jan 2023 #19
Trump is the mob boss of the GOP crime syndicate. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #20
Even if a person they target fights back Marthe48 Jan 2023 #21
Exactly, the point is to get Trump off the hook for his serious crimes. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #36
Yep, and he's got Capos in every government entity. jaxexpat Jan 2023 #24
Trump's made men are everywhere in the US government. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #37
Candidates for service seem mostly from the dysfunctional end of the gene pool. jaxexpat Jan 2023 #39
Yes con artists, crooks, career criminals. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #40
Yup. 2naSalit Jan 2023 #12
My first thought also was they were planted appleannie1 Jan 2023 #33
I believe him ..... Lovie777 Jan 2023 #2
+1 CentralMass Jan 2023 #4
Tfg has more problems than Carters got pills! Omnipresent Jan 2023 #8
Trump has problems from Fani Willis gab13by13 Jan 2023 #10
I trust him bdamomma Jan 2023 #5
From certain Repubblican points of view, this happened at the... TreasonousBastard Jan 2023 #7
The insurrection is growing stronger, gab13by13 Jan 2023 #9
+1! CrispyQ Jan 2023 #27
Good luck with voter suppression, gerrymandering, et al. eom Justice matters. Jan 2023 #34
I see this as an opportunity to set a precedent for dealing with TFG Deb Jan 2023 #11
Cue the right wing outrage machine over this nothing burger in 5, 4, 3, 2. . . AZLD4Candidate Jan 2023 #13
I forgot to mention, gab13by13 Jan 2023 #14
+1, again. CrispyQ Jan 2023 #28
One of Bidens aides videohead5 Jan 2023 #15
Even AP is peddling the false equivalence. CousinIT Jan 2023 #16
Magats are claiming that this ends the Trump case. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #17
Bullshit! There is a clear difference between the two cases. Biden is the POTUS and according to.... usaf-vet Jan 2023 #30
It is time for the Democrats to push back on the half-assed coverage of this, and point out the JohnSJ Jan 2023 #18
"It is time for the Democrats to push back..." CrispyQ Jan 2023 #29
Was this a Roger Stone op? RipVanWinkle Jan 2023 #22
Too bad Trump wasn't arrested a year ago, gab13by13 Jan 2023 #23
Is it the job of the then vice President kacekwl Jan 2023 #25
How is it we heard that the documents Biden had were related to Ukraine and Iran. But all we know doc03 Jan 2023 #26
This just has all the hallmarks of one of Dump's helmet-hairbrained schemes Blue Owl Jan 2023 #31
I believe that Qanon planted those records in 2016 to sabotage Biden in 2024! Sancho Jan 2023 #32
Why is 'surprised' in quotes? Bayard Jan 2023 #35
Because the AP pretty much sucks? Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2023 #38

SheltieLover

(80,249 posts)
1. I think they should check video surveillance to see if anyone was there.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 08:02 AM
Jan 2023

Joe is not sloppy in carrying out his duties.

Irish_Dem

(81,127 posts)
6. Sheltie you read my mind.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 08:23 AM
Jan 2023

I thought the same thing the second I read the news reports.

We know the GOP and Trump are very capable of a set up.

And they have repeatedly announced that they are going after Joe.

Marthe48

(23,135 posts)
19. but not a good set up
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jan 2023

They've pulled crap like this since they've crawled out from under the rocks, and whatever they try to direct blows up in their evil faces. r's are evil, but they do crime like the Road Runner.

Blackmail (the National Enquirer) and Jeff Bezos. Fake electors, intimidating election officials, fake investigation of Hunter Biden's laptop, raping women, and coercion (President Zalensky, Brad Raffensperger, and sedition and treason. I can't help putting 2+2 together and seeing traitor's machinations behind this.

I don't know why the media was able to report on what the recently found papers contained, and the dates they covered, when we got very little information about traitor's papers in the same sort of time frame. I'll bet National Archivesis going to be able to put some of those papers into the empty folders found in Florida.

Irish_Dem

(81,127 posts)
20. Trump is the mob boss of the GOP crime syndicate.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:13 AM
Jan 2023

They think nothing of bringing down anyone going after them. As you point out.

Exactly and bribing the press too.

Marthe48

(23,135 posts)
21. Even if a person they target fights back
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:25 AM
Jan 2023

and gets exonerated, their reputation is tarnished or ruined. But they continue on the best they can. Bloodied but unbowed.

Irish_Dem

(81,127 posts)
36. Exactly, the point is to get Trump off the hook for his serious crimes.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:26 PM
Jan 2023

Trump doesn't care who he has to kill or harm in the process.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
24. Yep, and he's got Capos in every government entity.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:34 AM
Jan 2023

Thanks to the crooks on the taxpayer provided payroll, the whole operation is barely breathing.

Its aggravating how the media sits in rapt attention, unquestioningly worshipful of the spoon fed rumors and innuendo provided by the usual sources.

Irish_Dem

(81,127 posts)
37. Trump's made men are everywhere in the US government.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:27 PM
Jan 2023

From Secret Service, DOJ down to the beat cop.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
39. Candidates for service seem mostly from the dysfunctional end of the gene pool.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 03:12 PM
Jan 2023

The general public is otherwise occupied.

score that:
Capitalism 1
Democracy 0

Irish_Dem

(81,127 posts)
40. Yes con artists, crooks, career criminals.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 06:18 PM
Jan 2023

The usual narcissistic sociopaths who are quite popular now and held in high esteem.

appleannie1

(5,454 posts)
33. My first thought also was they were planted
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:12 PM
Jan 2023

There is a huge difference also. 1. There were only a couple papers 2. Biden's own lawyers found them and IMMEDIATLY notified the Archives and turned them over without even being asked. No one had to ask, beg, plead or get a search warrant and then hire trucks to put all the boxes into.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
10. Trump has problems from Fani Willis
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:07 AM
Jan 2023

Read post #9, Trump doesn't have any problems from the feds.

bdamomma

(69,526 posts)
5. I trust him
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 08:22 AM
Jan 2023

it's not like he had boxes there and did not want to hand them over or saying they were his.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. From certain Repubblican points of view, this happened at the...
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 08:35 AM
Jan 2023

best time to replace the tired old laptop refrain. They have already seized on it as one of the best anti Biden things they have for their more brain dead supporters.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
9. The insurrection is growing stronger,
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:06 AM
Jan 2023

we are getting closer to a dictatorship.

Alvin Bragg mysteriously refuses to proceed on a case that was ready to go to a grand jury, causing the 2 lead investigators to resign in protest.

Money fraud including tax fraud was turned up in the criminal investigation of Trump.org. mysteriously the IRS is not pursuing tax fraud against Trump when a couple of years ago it used the most severe audit to go after Andrew McCabe and James Comey. Oh, the Trump.org was found guilty and fined 1.4 million dollars, Trump can raise that much in one day on Truth Social.

Merrick Garland chooses to defend Trump (the office) in the E. Jean Carroll defamation law suit which means that Garland believes that defaming someone is an official duty of the White House.

Allen Weisselberg tells his prosecutors that he will cooperate with them in return for a lighter jail sentence. Weisselberg proceeds to perjure himself on the witness stand to protect Trump and he still gets the lighter sentence.

We have a defeated former president of Brazil in the US illegally and nothing can be done to force him to leave the US.

We have an open and shut case against Donald Trump for stealing hundreds of classified documents and he still hasn't returned all of the documents and a year has gone by and our DOJ has done absolutely nothing to him and then lo and behold classified documents are found in a room used by then VP Biden. Hey, hey, hey, Garland I think we found some of the missing Trump documents.

To top it off, Garland continues to repeat that he will not be partisan when a man under investigation, Scott Perry, is now going to investigate Garland. The Republican party is still to this day trying to destroy the institutions of our democracy, they need not worry, DOJ is going to treat them the same way they treat Democrats, a US Marshall appointed by Trump is investigating President Biden as we speak.

CrispyQ

(40,938 posts)
27. +1!
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 11:00 AM
Jan 2023


I had scant hope in Garland but when the documents surfaced & nothing was done I lost even that. They are going to leave it to the voters to root out the anti-American politicians & if we don't do it, c'est la vie.

Deb

(3,744 posts)
11. I see this as an opportunity to set a precedent for dealing with TFG
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:09 AM
Jan 2023

while evil minds are counting on a sinful opportunity for themselves.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
14. I forgot to mention,
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:20 AM
Jan 2023

our economy is doing fantastic under President Biden. The lowest unemployment in 50 years. I do not expect the MSM to cover this, it is owned and managed by domestic right wing oligarchs, one of our Nazi oligarchs just bought Twitter to help control the narrative.

We have Fed chairman Powell basically claiming that he is going to keep raising interest rates until we are in a recession.

Just GOTV and everything will be just fine. The layout of Senators up for reelection in 2024 favors Republicans to take back the Senate.

Did I mention that the insurrection is growing stronger?

We screwed up on 1/7/2021, we should have marched in the streets demanding that the insurrectionists not be given amnesty. That's what the people of Brazil did, they learned from our inaction.

Law enforcement in Brazil isn't using a pyramid strategy, it is investigating who funded their insurrection. We investigated too until we found out that the wife of a SC justice may have been involved.

videohead5

(2,944 posts)
15. One of Bidens aides
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:30 AM
Jan 2023

At the time probably packed these up with his personal papers and sent them to his private office. They were not labeled classified they just had markings on them, so it was easy to get them mixed up. Biden did not know anything about them being at his private office, so he did not take them there.

CousinIT

(12,516 posts)
16. Even AP is peddling the false equivalence.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:39 AM
Jan 2023

The title of the article at the link and the quotes around the word 'surprised' are meant to cause people to believe that this Biden document find is the same as the Trump one. The part of the story they intentionally leave out is based around INTENT.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
17. Magats are claiming that this ends the Trump case.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:45 AM
Jan 2023

"Too much caution turns into immunity." Adam Schiff.

usaf-vet

(7,803 posts)
30. Bullshit! There is a clear difference between the two cases. Biden is the POTUS and according to....
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 11:10 AM
Jan 2023

...... TFG's standards he relied on to deflect any attempts to hold him accountable. I AM THE PRESIDENT and IMMUNE.

Prosecute the former occupant of the White House NOW and jail his a$$ for espionage as HE IS NO LONGER PRESIDENT.

Then in 2024 or 2028, the TFG can watch the investigation into former President Biden on the prison TV.

UNTIL that time, Biden is immune per TFG standards.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
18. It is time for the Democrats to push back on the half-assed coverage of this, and point out the
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:59 AM
Jan 2023

difference wasn't the classified documents per se, but the refusal by trump to return the documents, and obstruct every effort for over a year for the government to obtain those documents.

Which part of that DOESN'T THE MSM UNDERSTAND?

Leaving out that important difference is a deliberate attempt by most media outlets to setup a false narrative between the two.





CrispyQ

(40,938 posts)
29. "It is time for the Democrats to push back..."
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 11:08 AM
Jan 2023

That's been true for 40+ years. I'm still waiting.

RipVanWinkle

(268 posts)
22. Was this a Roger Stone op?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:27 AM
Jan 2023

In 2019, Stone was indicted by Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russian election interference and links between Trump and Moscow.

Stone was convicted on seven counts of lying to Congress, obstruction of justice and witness tampering, in relation to his links to Trump’s campaign and to WikiLeaks, which released Democratic emails obtained by Russian hackers.

In February 2020, prosecutors recommended Stone be sentenced to between seven and nine years in prison. After Trump complained by tweet, the Department of Justice intervened, saying the recommendation was too harsh. Four prosecutors resigned in protest.

Stone was sentenced to 40 months in prison but never went to jail. In December 2020, in the midst of Trump’s attempt to overturn his election defeat by Joe Biden, Trump granted Stone clemency.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/13/roger-stone-trump-ally-january-6-capitol-attack

It's possible that Roger Stone is involved in this (the recent discovery of classified documents at Biden's old office). If Stone was involved, maybe he was doing a favor for Trump.

Sidenote: Google "Roger Stone dirty tricks" and you'll get a lot of hits.

gab13by13

(32,211 posts)
23. Too bad Trump wasn't arrested a year ago,
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:27 AM
Jan 2023

"too much caution turns into immunity," Adam Schiff.

kacekwl

(9,132 posts)
25. Is it the job of the then vice President
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:39 AM
Jan 2023

to walk papers to the National Archives himself. Because they were "found" in storage in the building he used does not mean he put them there or even ever saw the papers. Surely they have a way of checking who had them and when they were brought to him and if they were read and returned to the person who delivered them. If not then the Archives needs to get their shit together. This should and will go nowhere unless it is deemed partisan by the DOJ. We'll see.

doc03

(39,074 posts)
26. How is it we heard that the documents Biden had were related to Ukraine and Iran. But all we know
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:50 AM
Jan 2023

about the ones Trump had is they were classified.

Blue Owl

(59,014 posts)
31. This just has all the hallmarks of one of Dump's helmet-hairbrained schemes
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 11:50 AM
Jan 2023

So nobody was in that closet the entire 4 years during the Dump administration?

And the timing of it all, just coincidental that it helps Dump right at this very moment?

And it's so transparently unoriginal -- accusing the 'other guy' of what you are guilty for...

I hope they find the evidence that these were planted, because I don't believe for a minute the Joe would be so careless...

Bayard

(29,584 posts)
35. Why is 'surprised' in quotes?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:14 PM
Jan 2023

Like its a dubious thing. Along with that photo that looks like he's in pain.

The whole deal smells like bullshit to me.

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