Hostess closing Seattle bakery; 110 workers affected
Source: King5 News and Associated Press
Hostess Brands Inc. is permanently closing three bakeries following a nationwide strike by its bakers union.
The maker of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread said Monday that the strike has prevented it from producing and delivering products, and it is closing bakeries in Seattle, St. Louis and Cincinnati. The facilities employ 627 workers.
Thousands of members of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union went on strike Nov. 9 to protest cuts to wages and benefits under a new contract offer, which the union rejected in September. Union officials say the company stopped contributing to workers' pensions last year.
Hostess has argued that workers must make concessions as it tries to improve its financial position. The privately-held food maker filed for Chapter 11 protection in January, its second trip through bankruptcy court in less than a decade. Hostess cited increasing pension and medical costs for employees as one of the drivers behind its latest filing.
Read more: http://www.king5.com/news/Hostess-closing-Seattle-bakery-two-others-178996421.html
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Anything about wanting increased payouts and golden parachutes, for executives?
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)the Hostess claims legit or not? If not then of course the union should fight for there workers however if the problems Hostess is facing is legit and not the fault of criminal activity nor them trying to screw the employees then what do you want them (Hostess) to do exactly?
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)and still don't have a job just yet more because I fell in a sand trap...
But I woulda taken a pay cut instead of losing local printing to a city hour south of here. Now that street faces yet another building to close and waterloo has fought long and hard to close it. This will be quick... I don't think Hostess has a choice.
bloomington-lib
(946 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)Act. Up here health care does not cost businesses one copper penny. Even with the Canadian and American dollars on par that is a significant cost saving.
Try arguing that point with the American Chamber of Commerce and other anti AFA right wingers.
Single payer health care is the prime example of how ideology trumps facts in the RW bubble sphere.
TheBlackAdder
(28,216 posts)Most of those US brands you buy profit a single Mexican company that is almost the size of Unilever, #1 bakery world-wide.
The larger they get, the more US firms they buy. It won't be soon until Hostess is owned by them.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I don't eat them, but they're a tradition. You always know they're there...just in case.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Seriously. They last a looooooong time. Makes you wonder what's in those things.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I'm slimmer now, I mean.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)GitRDun
(1,846 posts)Take a look at this article on the bankruptcy from early 2012:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/11/news/companies/hostess_bankruptcy/index.htm
The key information:
Pension funds feature prominently in the list of creditors.
The Bakery & Confectionary Union & Industry International Pension Fund has the largest claim, of $994 million.
The next largest claim, of about $12 million, is from Central States, Southeast and Southwest Areas Pension Plan.
So they owe over a billion dollars to creditors and they owe over a billion dollars to the pension fund!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That's the reason for the BR, right?
Too bad they couldn't come to an agreement. Something like forego payments to the pension for 5 years or something.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)Big pensions were some of the duped investors in the financial crisis. They could have been one of the investors at the other end of one of those Goldman Sachs deals. Big investment losses inside the pension would require the company be liable for much bigger pension contributions to properly fund long term pension liability to employees.
Also, they could have made pension assumptions assuming a much higher return on assets than was realistic, then really taken a hit when the crash hit. Companies required pension contributions are based on employee factors like age, date of retirement, but also anticipated returns on assets.
There is a story here that likely has a lot more to do with bad management than workers demanding too much. I don't see how you get $1 billion in the hole on pension contributions overnight because of globalization issues (pension costs making them noncompetitive).
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,212 posts)Via the Pension Benefit Guarentee Corporation. Plus the employees will only get a percentage of what they were originally entitled to.
This kind of fucking bullshit gets repeated by so many corporations these days.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)without jumping thru MAJOR HOOPS, but you can dump your promises to employees on the taxpayer, no problem...we have soooooo far to go.
good point
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)soon be opening a factory south of the border so they can pay less to their employees and charge more to their customers.
longship
(40,416 posts)Coconut around marshmallow around cake around cream filling. What's not to love?
Especially in winter! Comfort food! Yum!
shanti
(21,675 posts)in Sacramento that'll be closing. Except Campbell's is laying off 700, and this area has always had a high unemployment rate. not good
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)As I recall, ITT was a decent corporate owner. But it was Purina that really started fouling things up with poor management practices. Seems to have gotten worse with each sale.
At one time, much of the bread in stores besides Wonder in the Midwest was baked by Continental and Interstate Brands ... just stop the line, change the bags and start it up again. Not just white bread. Raisin, Oatmeal, all kinds of wheat, dark ryes. Even the store brands. It would still be warm when the route drivers were putting in the stores, which could be 200 miles away.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)Hostess is blaming their brand failure on the workers rather than the product.
Good fucking riddance, Hostess.
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)So after 82 years the greedy workers put them out of business?
Bullshit
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)they've become absolutely nasty, and half the size.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)The workers were in the unfortunate position of working for a dying brand.
We can only hope the best for them. It's a hard road.
DBH
AlexSatan
(535 posts)Don't be bad-mouthing my Ding Dongs and Suzy Qs (with their nutritious creamy filling!!!)!
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)The market (i.e., people who might eat their crap) has moved beyond their product line to something less toxic. I mean, their products have been laughing stocks/despised by nutritionists for years.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Little Debbies are as good as Hostess, and a hell of a lot cheaper. There are also private labels of the same shit Hostess makes.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)All they would have to do is change their recipe. Bust Hostess is just not that good anyway,
rdking647
(5,113 posts)the company is bankrupt. if your an emploee you have a simple choice. work for less or lose you jobs. thats it period. in bankruptcy it becomes the courts responsibility on what to do to maximize return to creditors. if the only way to continue as a company is to reduce wages then teh emplyees have the choice of pay cut or no job, It may suck but thats the only 2 choices.pesonally Im of teh opinion that the employees are pretty stupid to strike. all a strike does is pretty much guarantee a trip to the unemployment line. the company will liquidate,the recipes will be sold to other companies and will be made at new bakeries. the current employees get squat
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Naw. The US couldn't live without Hostess products.
I could, and do, but most couldn't.
It'll survive.
BanTheGOP
(1,068 posts)This is why we need an EMERGENCY Executive Order from President Obama to prevent businesses from closing down without permission from the government to prevent job loss, especially when Obamacare is taken into consideration which the union is trying to preserve. This is intolerable, and the owners can easily cough up a few bucks to prevent this atrocity.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)the fed. govt has no business telling a private business whether or not they can close, that is a bad, bad idea.