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Coventina

(27,172 posts)
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:11 PM Jan 2023

Art professor sues after firing over Prophet Muhammad images

Source: Associated Press

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Attorneys for an adjunct art professor said Tuesday she is suing the Minnesota university that dismissed her after a Muslim student objected to depictions of the Prophet Muhammad in a global art course, while the university admitted to a “misstep” and plans to hold public conversations about academic freedom.

In her lawsuit, Erika López Prater alleges that Hamline University — a small, private school in St. Paul — subjected her to religious discrimination and defamation, and damaged her professional and personal reputation.

“Among other things, Hamline, through its administration, has referred to Dr. López Prater’s actions as ‘undeniably Islamophobic,’? her attorneys said in a statement. “Comments like these, which have now been published in news stories around the globe, will follow Dr. López Prater throughout her career, potentially resulting in her inability to obtain a tenure track position at any institution of higher education.”

In Minnesota, a lawsuit can be started by serving a summons and a complaint to the party being sued. Attorneys for López Prater said the lawsuit was served to Hamline University on Tuesday and will soon be filed in court.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/colleges-and-universities-minnesota-st-paul-religion-ba1f75e62e6c73eb46117d7f8394b3a4



I find it interesting that this wrongfully fired professor is a black woman.
Would they have done the same to a white male? I doubt it......
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Art professor sues after firing over Prophet Muhammad images (Original Post) Coventina Jan 2023 OP
Hope Prater wins. The firing was unwarranted. Auggie Jan 2023 #1
THe things said by Hamline University administrators were even worse. cab67 Jan 2023 #4
That's the real issue for this lawsuit. Dr. Strange Jan 2023 #17
The Council on American-Islamic Relations came out in support of Dr. Prater groundloop Jan 2023 #2
That should settle the matter right there. geardaddy Jan 2023 #8
I might be wrong, but I think it's the national office that said that XorXor Jan 2023 #14
Oh, interesting. geardaddy Jan 2023 #18
They piled on. Mosby Jan 2023 #19
"Would they have done the same to a white male? I doubt it......" mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2023 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author cab67 Jan 2023 #5
Doesn't mean there was no racism in the decision. Coventina Jan 2023 #6
"Doesn't mean there WAS but it doesn't mean there WAS NOT." mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2023 #7
Whatevs. Coventina Jan 2023 #9
There was ignorance and fear Lithos Jan 2023 #10
The same could be said of your post. 11 Bravo Jan 2023 #11
any adjunct professor might face similar discipline mike_c Jan 2023 #12
I'd like to see one of the schools down the street, like St. Kate's or Macalester make her an offer Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2023 #13
Yes geardaddy Jan 2023 #20
To me the schools argument is akin to calling people who eat beef 'Hinduphobes' Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2023 #15
like it republianmushroom Jan 2023 #16
Her syllabus with the picture had been approved; MN employment lawyer says that's important muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #21
I believe the professor who's contract was not extended - Erika Lopez Prater - is Caucasian. HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2023 #22
Did you click on the link in my post? Coventina Jan 2023 #23
I just did. There are 5 photos of a young black woman HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2023 #24
If I've mis-identified her, I apologize. n/t Coventina Jan 2023 #28
Actually, based on igorman's post, I'm not sure. HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2023 #29
last name is "Lopez" igorman Jan 2023 #27
To be clear... Dr. Strange Jan 2023 #25
Yup. Not really fired. They just don't get their contract renewed n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2023 #30
The fact she was an adjunct made it easy for Hamline to fire her iemanja Jan 2023 #26

cab67

(3,007 posts)
4. THe things said by Hamline University administrators were even worse.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:42 PM
Jan 2023

Someone who studies and teaches about Islamic art for a living was publicly denounced as an Islamophobe. That's going to follow her everywhere, no matter how much Hamline tries to walk back what it did.

Dr. Strange

(25,925 posts)
17. That's the real issue for this lawsuit.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 07:32 PM
Jan 2023

Adjuncts can be fired for whatever reason, the university just claims that they weren't rehired.

Hamline crossed the line when they defamed her with the "Islamaphobic" term. They're probably going to end up in the same situation that Oberlin was in, except they'll maybe opt for a settlement instead of going to a trial.

groundloop

(11,523 posts)
2. The Council on American-Islamic Relations came out in support of Dr. Prater
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:37 PM
Jan 2023

From the linked article:

On Friday, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a national civil rights organization for Muslims, disputed the belief that López Prater’s behavior was Islamophobic. The group said professors who analyze images of the Prophet Muhammad for academic purposes are not the same as “Islamophobes who show such images to cause offense.”

XorXor

(625 posts)
14. I might be wrong, but I think it's the national office that said that
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 04:52 PM
Jan 2023

But the state organization, CAIR-MN, took the opposite stance.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,613 posts)
3. "Would they have done the same to a white male? I doubt it......"
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:41 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Wed Jan 18, 2023, 02:37 PM - Edit history (3)

I find it interesting that this wrongfully fired professor is a black woman.
Would they have done the same to a white male? I doubt it......

Meet Fayneese S. Miller, the president of Hamline University.

Knock yourself out.



Source: https://www.thefire.org/news/hamline-university-president-triples-down-defending-instructors-nonrenewal-showing-muhammad

The magic words in all this are "adjunct art professor." Adjuncts are the at the lowest position on the totem pole. Sacrificing an adjunct is no big deal.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #3)

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
6. Doesn't mean there was no racism in the decision.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 01:59 PM
Jan 2023

Doesn't mean there WAS but it doesn't mean there WAS NOT.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,613 posts)
7. "Doesn't mean there WAS but it doesn't mean there WAS NOT."
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 02:18 PM
Jan 2023
Doesn't mean there WAS but it doesn't mean there WAS NOT.

With that standard of proof and $4, you can buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

Lithos

(26,404 posts)
10. There was ignorance and fear
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 02:59 PM
Jan 2023

And a lack of desire to actually understand the context beyond just a desire to try and make things go away in some vague attempt to "protect" the university. Ie, I am sure it was easier for them to remove the professor than to actually understand what was happening.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
11. The same could be said of your post.
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 03:33 PM
Jan 2023

Or of any other group of words strung together since the inception of human speech.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
12. any adjunct professor might face similar discipline
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 04:04 PM
Jan 2023

Adjuncts have few employment rights and protections by design. Today, three-quarters of the U.S. professoriate is composed of adjuncts, which comprise a poorly paid itinerant professional class who work essentially at the whims of deans and provosts. Academic freedom means little when your contract is renewable-- or not-- every semester. It's a damned tenuous existence.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
13. I'd like to see one of the schools down the street, like St. Kate's or Macalester make her an offer
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 04:41 PM
Jan 2023

Hamline messed up on this one. Let another school profit (or should I say prophet) from their error.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. To me the schools argument is akin to calling people who eat beef 'Hinduphobes'
Wed Jan 18, 2023, 06:07 PM
Jan 2023

Everyone, in every religion, every day, deal with the fact that 'what they think is sacred' ... is NOT held to be sacred by almost else who's not part of their religion.

And it wasn't like she just busted it out one day on a whim. She took many steps in order to avoid offending the Muslims in the class before revealing the portrait.

I hope she wins!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
21. Her syllabus with the picture had been approved; MN employment lawyer says that's important
Thu Jan 19, 2023, 05:13 PM
Jan 2023



"the MN employment lawyer I talked to about it says that's a big deal legally - that all her actions were pre-approved, and then she was punished for it."



That’s right — the syllabus that Hamline admin describe in writing to the entire campus community as “undeniably Islamophobic” was approved by Hamlime admin ex ante. Somehow, I don’t think anybody has followed through on their alleged principles and resigned.



The facts were are not ambiguous: she was offered a class, and it was taken away because she engaged in perfectly sound pedagogical practice. She was fired. Her being an adjunct is relevant to the due process rights she possesses, but is irrelevant to the question of whether she was fired; she was.

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/01/the-hamline-files
22. I believe the professor who's contract was not extended - Erika Lopez Prater - is Caucasian.
Thu Jan 19, 2023, 10:53 PM
Jan 2023

The news stories about this case show a lot of photos of the young woman who complained about the artwork that was displayed - that young woman appears to be a black woman.

The Daily Mail says this is Erika López Prater:



... in this story: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11646465/Muslim-rights-group-slams-university-firing-professor-showed-class-painting-Muhammad.html

24. I just did. There are 5 photos of a young black woman
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 02:11 AM
Jan 2023

who is identified as the complaining student. There are no photos of the professor, but other sources - like my link - identify her as Caucasian, not black.

 

igorman

(16 posts)
27. last name is "Lopez"
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 11:49 AM
Jan 2023

Are you sure she's Caucasian? Not that the race issue will be brought up even by the university.

Dr. Strange

(25,925 posts)
25. To be clear...
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 11:11 AM
Jan 2023
I find it interesting that this wrongfully fired professor is a black woman.
Would they have done the same to a white male?

If the white male professor was an adjunct? Yes, in a heartbeat. Adjuncts get shit on all the time.

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
26. The fact she was an adjunct made it easy for Hamline to fire her
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 11:19 AM
Jan 2023

If she had been a tenured professor, she would not have been fired.

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