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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:34 PM Jan 2023

Donald Trump loses a key voting bloc just as he begins holding rallies

Source: raw story





Sarah K. Burris January 22, 2023

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Trump advisers are reportedly scrambling to generate the hefty crowd size that the former president expects, but they're having a difficult time doing it. All of this comes amid Trump losing a key bloc of voters that had been loyal and dedicated to him: anti-choice voters.

Despite the Trump judges striking down the right for an individual to regulate their own healthcare, Rolling Stone is reporting that anti-choice voters are looking to someone else as their top candidate.

The group, "Students For Life," did a straw poll looking at the 2024 candidates that are being rumored, and Donald Trump is not their first choice. In fact, his showing in second place was nothing to celebrate.

Among the 2,000 attendees at a summit of anti-choice activists, it was Gov. Ron DeSantis that won 53.7 percent of the attendees.

"Former President Donald Trump placed in a distant second with just 19.22 percent," said Rolling Stone. .............................
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Kristan Hawkins, the president of Students for Life, told the magazine that in the post-Roe era, “Checking the box and saying you’re ‘pro-life’ isn’t sufficient."...................

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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-losing-2024-voters-already/



I think DeSantis is worse than trump--meaner for sure.



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Donald Trump loses a key voting bloc just as he begins holding rallies (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2023 OP
Lost key voting bloc Rebl2 Jan 2023 #1
trump never had that bloc. mwb970 Jan 2023 #19
Actually for once TFG told the truth Freddie Jan 2023 #2
If De Santis Is Now Their Choice Me. Jan 2023 #3
DeSantis doesnt appear to be in bed with Putin like Trump. oldsoftie Jan 2023 #20
He Is, Nevetheless, A Menace Me. Jan 2023 #27
As a Florida resident living in a red area, DeSanis is the left's worse nightmare packman Jan 2023 #29
THank You For Confirming Me. Jan 2023 #35
without really alarming the left? Skittles Jan 2023 #37
If DeSanctimonious (Or Anybody Else) Gets The Nomination... smb Jan 2023 #33
Unless he's offered a pardon. n/t Whiskeytide Jan 2023 #39
Pro-life is such a fake label to begin with DFW Jan 2023 #4
I prefer woman-hating, theocratic, christofascist gestational slavers. niyad Jan 2023 #6
You're factually correct, of course DFW Jan 2023 #7
You do have a point. scum, for short. niyad Jan 2023 #12
Now, THAT works just fine! DFW Jan 2023 #16
Whenever I See Them Pumping THeir Signs In The Air Me. Jan 2023 #9
ME! ME! ME....... I know the answer. 3Hotdogs Jan 2023 #10
... Me. Jan 2023 #26
I have done just that. Really annoys them. niyad Jan 2023 #13
I'll take "none" for $100, Alex durablend Jan 2023 #30
Go For THe Double Jeopardy Biggie And Bet It All Me. Jan 2023 #31
I HATE that label with the 🔥 of 1000 🌞s. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #11
That makes two of us DFW Jan 2023 #17
+1 (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2023 #25
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**. niyad Jan 2023 #5
They want Christian Fascism in a more "family-friendly" package, w. less daughter-lust hatrack Jan 2023 #8
Boo Hoo LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #14
womp womp nt orleans Jan 2023 #15
trump is a "distant second". mwb970 Jan 2023 #18
Actually, I think DeSantis is. Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #21
Completely agree! Chili Pepper Jan 2023 #22
Yes, DeSantis is even more dangerous to America. mwb970 Jan 2023 #24
we underestimated the Deplorables once igorman Jan 2023 #23
Chump has been a mirage from the get-go FakeNoose Jan 2023 #28
Some Suggested Solutions smb Jan 2023 #32
evil llashram Jan 2023 #34
Our system of justice is very sick SouthernDem4ever Jan 2023 #36
yes, WTF is up with that??? Skittles Jan 2023 #38
They got what they wanted anti choice on court Tree Lady Jan 2023 #40

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
2. Actually for once TFG told the truth
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 10:54 PM
Jan 2023

That Dobbs would hurt the Repugs in the midterms. The “pro-life” folks don’t want to hear that.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. If De Santis Is Now Their Choice
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 11:05 PM
Jan 2023

HOw would things be any different, perhaps worse? From the frying pan into a pizza oven?

THey are still dangerous fools.

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
20. DeSantis doesnt appear to be in bed with Putin like Trump.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 07:23 AM
Jan 2023

One of the ways trump is trying to talk him down is calling him a "war hawk".

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
29. As a Florida resident living in a red area, DeSanis is the left's worse nightmare
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 11:31 AM
Jan 2023

He is stealthy in his conservative approach, knows how to shade his agenda just enough to appeal to the right without really alarming the left, he couches his words and approaches to issue with subtle shades of logic and appeal without the screaming rhetoric of the orange slug.

He us sneaky and if any one practices the political art of boiling frogs in pots so they are unaware of what is going to happen to them when the heat is turned way up and the lid is put on the pot, it is DeSantis.

Be afraid, be very afraid - this guy knows how to appeal to both sides of the see saw by sitting on that very fine balance.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
35. THank You For Confirming
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 03:57 PM
Jan 2023

What I think I've been seeing.

I wonder, though, how he will play on the big stage and if that will be the end of his possibility

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
37. without really alarming the left?
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 04:34 AM
Jan 2023

the man human-trafficked people NOT EVEN FROM HIS OWN STATE as a political stunt while performing for the cult....

smb

(3,471 posts)
33. If DeSanctimonious (Or Anybody Else) Gets The Nomination...
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:35 PM
Jan 2023

...the Tangerine Toddler will launch into a prolonged tantrum about how the primaries were RIGGED and STOLEN, discouraging turnout among his remaining followers in the general election.

DFW

(54,388 posts)
4. Pro-life is such a fake label to begin with
Sun Jan 22, 2023, 11:29 PM
Jan 2023

The vast majority of these people eat meat and support the death penalty. Being against abortion rights does not make one "pro-life." As far as I'm concerned, someone who waters his plants is more "pro-life" than a rabid anti-abortion-rights activist.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. Whenever I See Them Pumping THeir Signs In The Air
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:09 AM
Jan 2023

I wish someone would ask them how many children they have adopted or at the very least, how many hungry children they have invited into their home foe a meal

ShazzieB

(16,407 posts)
11. I HATE that label with the 🔥 of 1000 🌞s.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:33 AM
Jan 2023

I am convinced that whoever came up with the "pro-life" label meant for it to imply that anyone not on their side of the fence is "pro-death," which is dishonest, unfair, inaccurate, and downright rude. It is deeply, profoundly offensive to me, and I absolutely refuse to use it. Doing so would reinforce the idea that it is somehow valid, and that is something I am unwilling to do.

Even those who believe human lives are at stake should have better sense than to believe that deciding whether to have an abortion can be boiled down to making a choice between "life" and "death." That's an insultingly childish and simplistic way to look at these important decisions.

Using a label like "pro-life" is an attempt to strip away all nuances and portray abortion as a completely nuance-free, black and white issue. Imo, we should never let them get away with that.

DFW

(54,388 posts)
17. That makes two of us
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 02:04 AM
Jan 2023

I'm with you on every single point you made there!!! I refuse to use it as well.

mwb970

(11,360 posts)
18. trump is a "distant second".
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 04:36 AM
Jan 2023

That's gotta sting. And no, nobody is worse than trump, all things considered. Aside from his pal Putin, that is.

Lonestarblue

(9,997 posts)
21. Actually, I think DeSantis is.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:27 AM
Jan 2023

He is smarter than Trump, and he doesn’t have all the Trump baggage—the business fraud with the fake university and many others, the sexual assaults, the fake charity he and the family used as a piggybank, his curious relationship with Putin brought to center stage with private meetings and phone calls and his refusal ever to criticize Putin.

DeSantis is a homegrown version of Trump, but with the intelligence to cultivate white grievance and religious extremism and use them to his advantage. Everything he does is calculated for its benefit to him politically. Trump and his Republican enablers brought fascist ideas to the forefront and made them acceptable to their voters. I believe DeSantis is even more a fascist and would do great harm to our country if he were ever elected president with control of both houses of Congress. He might not do the same type of damage internationally that Trump did because no one knows his foreign policy views, but his domestic agenda is clearly one of promoting Republican and evangelical propaganda as the law of the land, hurting women an ties however possible.

Chili Pepper

(102 posts)
22. Completely agree!
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:41 AM
Jan 2023

DeSantis is a smarter, more articulate, more organized version of Trump. And he continues to take it further.

mwb970

(11,360 posts)
24. Yes, DeSantis is even more dangerous to America.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:01 AM
Jan 2023

But nobody is worse than trump as a human being. If trump is even human, which I see no evidence of.

smb

(3,471 posts)
32. Some Suggested Solutions
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 12:33 PM
Jan 2023
Trump advisers are reportedly scrambling to generate the hefty crowd size that the former president expects


Mirrors? Cardboard standees? Parade the same little group in front of the stage over and over?

llashram

(6,265 posts)
34. evil
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 02:24 PM
Jan 2023

has had his way with that Florida racist. May he flop on his face with his antagonist trump and never raise his evil bean head again to curse this country with his brand of malignant hate that appeals to so many Americans.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
36. Our system of justice is very sick
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 05:18 PM
Jan 2023

that it would allow a traitor and insurrectionist to run for high office.

Tree Lady

(11,468 posts)
40. They got what they wanted anti choice on court
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:30 PM
Jan 2023

so they don't need him anymore and others will follow the path.

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