Trump finally offers to hand over DNA to E Jean Carroll rape case - after deadline passes to submit

[jgo]

Source: AOL News

Donald Trump has finally offered to hand over his DNA in his upcoming rape trial with E Jean Carroll – but only after the deadline passed to submit evidence in the case.

Attorneys for the former president said last week that he had finally agreed to take a DNA test so that his sample can be compared to a dress Ms Carroll says she was wearing at the time of the alleged sexual assault, reported The Daily Beast.

Ms Carroll, who was a TV talk show host at the time, claims that Mr Trump raped her in a dressing room in high-end Manhattan department store Bergdorf Goodman in 1996.

Ms Carroll kept the Donna Karan black coat dress she said she was wearing at the time – and the now-infamous item lies at the centre of her case against the one-term president.


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[live love laugh]

1. Wonder if the missed deadline will negate the evidence. 🧐

[Evolve Dammit]

2. Betcha he gave someone else's "sample." He's not going to give up any samples voluntarily. He had

his own Doctor's office raided and siezed all his medical records. Remember that?

[JohnSJ]

4. Not if they do it right. A third party must take the sample, or it is invalid

[Evolve Dammit]

5. Wonder if it was a tube spit or a jerk off thing? Not to be gross. Third party? Hmm. Santos?

[Richard D]

10. I may never recover from that image

[Evolve Dammit]

13. Apologies. I may not recover from the creeping fascism and the previous admin. Double hurl.

[milestogo]

12. Maybe they got it from the classified documents.

Or the gold toilet seat.

[Evolve Dammit]

14. Yeeewww. On second thought, it is however, a distinct possibility. Didn't Stormy whack Spanky with a

magazine that he was featured in, at his request? Yeeeewwww.

[milestogo]

15. Well, you can get DNA from a magazine or letter or cigarette butt that has been handled.

No ejaculation necessary.

[Evolve Dammit]

16. Thank God. I'll sleep better now!

[ificandream]

3. Of course the Orange Dumpf waited until the deadlne passed.

Suspect he thinks his offer will be rejected. I'd love to see that it isn't. I also hope that someone on the receiving end of this makes sure the DNA isn't someone else's. It'd be just like the Orange Dumpf to pull a fast one here.

[LiberalLovinLug]

8. It does seem rather suspicious.

I wouldn't put it past him that some other expert person told him of a way to beat the system. To smuggle in something or a way to switch it out. Or compromise it someway to alter it. I know Putin has a lot of experience with how he grifted the Olympics urine testing officials.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Age old story. He will just say it was consensual sex and she is lying about rape.

He lied to protect his beloved wife and adoring public.
yada yada. Same old same old.

[Evolve Dammit]

18. You're probably right. So far the pussy grabber hasn't lost anything, except Stormy's hush $$. Of

course there are probably many more we don't know about.

[Irish_Dem]

19. And he deducted the Stormy payment from his taxes.

So he didn't pay the total amount.

Of course he has paid of hookers in the past.
And others.

[Evolve Dammit]

22. He really deducted it? Gotta love tax cheats and frauds. Not. Hope he is convicted of rape.

[Irish_Dem]

23. Yep Michael Cohen said Trump took the Stormy payment as a business expense, not a personal one.

Not surprising.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michael-cohen-trump-claiming-personal-things-as-business-expenses-just-like-him-writing-off-stormy-daniels-expense/ar-AA15xqoH?li=BBnb7Kz

[Evolve Dammit]

24. Jeebus. Makes you wonder what happened at Epstein's place or on his jet, or...how many victims?

[Irish_Dem]

26. Most certainly was not his first rape.

Raping someone in a dressing room in a large department store is very bold
and confident. It is not a first time offense.

Yes he knew Epstein, and Epstein was not holding bible lessons for his clients.

I would say many victims, young ones.

We know Trump liked the young girls from beauty pageants.

But Jean Carrol was older at the time of rape, so Trump was opportunistic
and raped when and who he wanted.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. truly a criminal, just in that respect alone. And still revered by millions. Unreal.

[Irish_Dem]

30. Yes many adore this ruthless sociopath.

Tried to overturn the presidential election, take over the US government.
Stole classified documents and put lives at risk.
He knew Covid would cause deaths but didn't care and killed Americans.
Actively is destroying US democracy.
Partnered with Putin to be installed into the WH.

The list goes on and on.
And people love him.

More of a sad commentary on the American people.

[Evolve Dammit]

31. Spot on Irish Dem. Very sad commentary on us as a people. And H was right. "Deplorables".

[Irish_Dem]

32. Yes that is the biggest shock.

People electing known criminals.
And voting out democracy.

I never thought I would see this happen.

[Evolve Dammit]

34. I think Orange Julius actually referred to Capone recently as an American Hero?? Hope not.

[Irish_Dem]

37. Wouldn't surprise me.

I think he recently said he had more attorneys than Al Capone.
But yes I am sure he loves good criminals and conmen.
His role models.

I like your name, it is how I feel.

Will the human race ever evolve?
Not looking like we are making much progress.

[Evolve Dammit]

38. Yeah. I'm losing hope for our species. Thought we had good progress in the 70's. Thanks though

[Irish_Dem]

40. We had a good run.

You have to admit that.

And who knows, humans are a hardy bunch.
They may survive and evolve.

I think the essence of being human is to fight the good fight.
For what is right and just.

As long as we keep that, we are still in the game.

[Irish_Dem]

48. We had a good run.

You have to admit that.

And who knows, humans are a hardy bunch.
They may survive and evolve.

I think the essence of being human is to fight the good fight.
For what is right and just.

As long as we keep that, we are still in the game.

[Evolve Dammit]

53. All we can do, right?

[jcgoldie]

39. but wasn't his initial reaction...

that she wasn't his type or something like that?

[Irish_Dem]

41. Easy, he had to lie to protect his beloved wife and adoring public.

He sin was lying, not rape.

(I used to interview rapists as part of my job so have heard it all.)

[aeromanKC]

7. What, he didn't take the diet coke that was offered?

[bluestarone]

9. Maybe another delay tactic?

Gotta be a reason he's doing this. (and not a good one)

[Fullduplexxx]

11. It's inadmissible unless the judge reopens discovery which so farther judge declined to do

So trump can say I gave it but it wasn't tested . If the judge does reopen discovery that would just be another delay

[C Moon]

17. The special circumstances for the rich in the our country is out of control.

If anyone else had gone past the deadline, they'd be picked up, thrown in the slammer and fined.

[Irish_Dem]

49. We are seeing the protective shield of the wealthy/powerful.

It is real.

Also applies to the sitting members of congress who tried to overthrow the US gov't
and overturn a presidential election.

[Jarqui]

20. Why couldn't she get his DNA from an autograph or a McDonald's wrapper?

Maybe she got some DNA from Mary Trump to make sure.

If she's going to push DNA on her dress, it would be pretty nasty for Trump's defense if it checks out because his denials of not knowing her would go up in smoke along with him twice mistakenly identifying her as his ex-wife after maintaining she wasn't his type.

Trump evading providing the DNA evidence makes it look worse.

A positive DNA match is not going to go well for Trump in the media.

This is a civil case - preponderance of the evidence - more likely than not, greater than 50% chance to be true. It is not the higher bar of beyond reasonable doubt.

[Hekate]

21. Teflon Don

[Mira]

25. I thought Mary Trump offered and gave her DNA when he would not

Since nobody else mentioned it, I must have been given bad information. Either way, my admiration for Mary Trump is sky-high. I do wonder if it happened.

[SoCalDavidS]

27. I Don't Think That Would Be Conclusive Enough

Sure, it would show a family link, but they probably need 100% accuracy, since it's Teflon Man we're talking about.

[Irish_Dem]

50. Mary Trump's DNA could show 100% chance that the DNA was her uncle or nephew.

Her nephews might be too young to have committed the crime.
Leaves one of her uncles.
The one who lives near the crime.

[70sEraVet]

29. I did a google search, and all I could find were comments on social media suggesting ....

that Mary Trump could give her DNA sample.
Maybe she did, and Jean Carroll's lawyers are keeping that mum for the time being.
It would be a nice surprise for Genghis Slob!

[Evolve Dammit]

33. Good sleuthing

[Irish_Dem]

51. Yes if the case hinges on Trump's DNA I would make sure it is his DNA

before I moved forward with the case.

[PatrickforB]

35. Trump is basically a monster who came close to destroying this republic.

Is he now in jail for that? Nope.

Is he in jail for trying to blackmail the new Ukraine president. Nope.

The blood of a million Americans is on his hands because of his criminal negligence in dealing with the pandemic. Is he in jail for that? Nope.

He stole pallets of top secret documents and then refused to hand them over until the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago. Is he in jail for that? Nope.

Ah, BUT his little weenie mushroom - THAT might be his downfall.

For the sake of all the women he violated, let's hope so!

[pandr32]

36. He must be confidant he is safe because of passed deadline.

Of course he will claim he was willing and has nothing to hide.

[tirebiter]

45. He wants to maintain that he just doesn't come early

That’s his point.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

46. Take his submission and then afterwards give him the full penalties for delay, delay, delay. .nt

[twodogsbarking]

47. Do they cut off an appendage to get the DNA?

[MyMission]

52. Didn't he offer to hand over his tax returns, after

After he was elected?
That's a sarcastic question.
He makes lots of offers he has no intention of following through on. It's how he operates.