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BumRushDaShow

(169,197 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:01 AM Feb 2023

White House says leading theory is objects shot down were 'benign' balloons as it tries to tamp down

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Source: CNN Politics

Washington CNN — The leading explanation among US intelligence officials is that three objects shot down over North America last weekend were balloons being flown for benign purposes, the White House said Tuesday, the furthest the administration has gone in describing the as-yet-unidentified crafts.

The three mystery aerial devices have consumed areas of the federal government since they were shot down over the past several days. The administration hasn’t been able to say with certainty what they were doing, where they were from or even what type of craft they were – conditions ripe for conspiracies.

The White House, recognizing the potential for the spread of outlandish theories, has sought to tamp down on fears the objects could have originated from a hostile state or even from outer space. On Tuesday, a top White House official suggested they were likely harmless. “The intelligence community’s considering as a leading explanation that these could just be balloons tied to some commercial or benign purpose,” John Kirby, the strategic communication coordinator at the National Security Council, said Tuesday.

Kirby said he was comfortable ruling out the possibility the objects belonged to the US government, and said there was currently no indication they were connected to China’s spy balloon program, which has commanded attention after the US shot down a Chinese spy balloon earlier this month.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/14/politics/conspiracy-theories-objects-white-house



Full headline: White House says leading theory is objects shot down were ‘benign’ balloons as it tries to tamp down on conspiracies

Article updated.

Original article/headline -

Debris of downed objects may never be recovered, official warns, as White House tries to tamp down on conspiracies

CNN — The US and Canada may not be able to recover the debris of the three objects recently shot down by the military at President Joe Biden’s direction, a senior administration official said Tuesday morning, a day after the White House tried to tamp down on burgeoning conspiracies.

“If it can’t be recovered, it’s going to be extremely difficult to say with great certainty what these things were,” the official said Tuesday morning. Asked what option the administration has to learn more about these objects if the debris ultimately can’t be recovered, the official said that they are leaning as much as possible on the US intelligence community to assess those objects. Observations of the objects by US military pilots, as well as the objects’ flight patterns before they were shot down, are all being studied, they said.

Since three objects were shot down from the sky over North America in recent days, administration officials have emphasized efforts to recover the debris and the hope that finding their remains will be able to shed important light on their nature. But all three objects were shot down over terrain that is remote and challenging to navigate, which has made the recovery efforts uniquely difficult.

One object is believed to have fallen into deep water in Lake Huron, while Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the search area in Yukon was a “fairly large area” in dense wilderness. Another object was shot down over frozen water in Alaska. Winter weather conditions have also not been helpful, officials have said. Even if some of the debris can be recovered, officials have also warned that the process could take significant time.
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White House says leading theory is objects shot down were 'benign' balloons as it tries to tamp down (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 OP
Why not capture some? GreenWave Feb 2023 #1
Like this? BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #7
Stop the pigeon! Stop the Pigeon! Gore1FL Feb 2023 #14
Well we know what the final outcome of that was... BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #15
3 commercial or research institutions are missing 3 flying objects...we will know soon as Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #20
Or follow and record them and show the public what was so scary...turns out...commercial! Lol Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #23
They better. OneCrazyDiamond Feb 2023 #2
Scottie, engage the tractor beam 🚀 Walleye Feb 2023 #3
Too late. They already used the photon torpedoes. Earth-shine Feb 2023 #8
😆 Walleye Feb 2023 #9
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Feb 2023 #12
Cloaked by a tachyon field Kennah Feb 2023 #17
Well, this should give conspiracy YouTube plenty to work with! NullTuples Feb 2023 #4
Where's My Balloons Dude??? Some dudes, somewhere, are missing 3 flying objects. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #21
IOW, we may not want to let people know what we found. grumpyduck Feb 2023 #5
Paging Mr Spielberg. JohnnyRingo Feb 2023 #6
LOL I was just going to post MuseRider Feb 2023 #11
Well hell Traildogbob Feb 2023 #10
I'm sure there will be some recovery. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #13
How convienent LiberalLovinLug Feb 2023 #16
Bob Lazar knows Kennah Feb 2023 #18
Things falling from the sky cbabe Feb 2023 #19
And 4 years later BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #22
Loved that film. And one more... cbabe Feb 2023 #26
Have seen all 3! BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #27
One more thing from the sky happy Valentine's Day: cbabe Feb 2023 #28
LOL BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #29
Beautiful song for a living earth. Plus soooo jealous of the lunchbox! cbabe Feb 2023 #33
Lunchbox even had a thermos BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #34
or the other side of the coin, we found it but we don't want to tell what it is. republianmushroom Feb 2023 #24
Translation, the public will never know, meanwhile objects will be sent to secret bases for study Shanti Shanti Shanti Feb 2023 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author ruet Feb 2023 #30
How Does That Jibe With... ruet Feb 2023 #31
That might be referring to the object that fell onto a frozen water surface in Alaska BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #32
I Know This Subject Is All Over The Place, Hard To Keep Up With And Tinged With Politics... ruet Feb 2023 #35
Remember that at least one was over Canadian territory BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #36
It seems to fit pretty well. muriel_volestrangler Feb 2023 #37
The Original Title Of This Post Was... ruet Feb 2023 #38

BumRushDaShow

(169,197 posts)
7. Like this?
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:47 AM
Feb 2023






Seriously - if someone "shoots something down" from a fighter jet and it's small, there won't be much left. That surveillance balloon was huge (supposedly "3 buses long" ) so they had pieces to recover.

Gore1FL

(22,942 posts)
14. Stop the pigeon! Stop the Pigeon!
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:31 PM
Feb 2023

Nab him
Jab him
Tab him
Grab him
Stop that pigeon now!

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
20. 3 commercial or research institutions are missing 3 flying objects...we will know soon as
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:41 PM
Feb 2023

then military gives clearance.

Could they sue?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
23. Or follow and record them and show the public what was so scary...turns out...commercial! Lol
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:47 PM
Feb 2023

The Military has many questions needing answering….honestly answered.

But looks like they will flee soon to their bunkers, let their Civilian commanders take over communications operations with the Public.

Civilians elected by civilians are the final Commanders, right?

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,068 posts)
2. They better.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:14 AM
Feb 2023

Who know what they could be leaking in to the environment. I read Russia discarded nuclear waste in their forrest, and people stumble across the waste with bad results.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
4. Well, this should give conspiracy YouTube plenty to work with!
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:20 AM
Feb 2023

(obviously, all the wreckage was taken to Area 52. No, 52. They ran out of storage space at Area 51)

grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
5. IOW, we may not want to let people know what we found.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:32 AM
Feb 2023

Political reasons? National security? Other?

JohnnyRingo

(20,842 posts)
6. Paging Mr Spielberg.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:39 AM
Feb 2023

I don't see enough effort to "tamp down conspiracy theories". More information is immediately proper.
Telling us it's over rough terrain is so 1950 might work in a vintage sci fi movie, but we have equipment to reach any spot on Earth within hours.

Besides, I assume the military had it's option of where to bring it down for easy recovery. Put Indiana Jones on it.

Traildogbob

(12,999 posts)
10. Well hell
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:58 AM
Feb 2023

Marginal Trailer Queen with all her science expertise thinks it will all just fall straight down in one safe pile. You know….gravity. Ya shoot a squirrel out a tree and it falls straight down, ain’t harmin no body.

cbabe

(6,602 posts)
26. Loved that film. And one more...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:38 PM
Feb 2023

The Red Balloon | Oscar Winning Short Film | Drama | Classic Movie

https://m.

BumRushDaShow

(169,197 posts)
29. LOL
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:05 PM
Feb 2023

That was my favorite movie when I was a kid. I even had the record (for some reason I loved the song "Feed the Birds (Tuppence a bag)" ) and even had a metal Mary Poppins lunchbox.



Happy Valentine's Day to you too!

republianmushroom

(22,282 posts)
24. or the other side of the coin, we found it but we don't want to tell what it is.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 01:58 PM
Feb 2023

Pentagon memo says object shot down over Canada was a 'small, metallic balloon'
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143033171

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
25. Translation, the public will never know, meanwhile objects will be sent to secret bases for study
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:00 PM
Feb 2023

Can't spook the herd

Moooo

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

ruet

(10,266 posts)
31. How Does That Jibe With...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:35 PM
Feb 2023

@1:31

Jim Acosta: And what do we know about the efforts to recover the wreckage of this second object? It looks like NORAD had just put out an email a short time ago and it sounds like they're trying to recover it.

Natasha Bertrand: They did. And what we were told yesterday is that the object was shot down over frozen water so it landed on the ice, essentially. We don't know what kind of condition it's in, whether it is intact, for example. But recovery efforts have been launched and according to the Defense Department, they have been able to recover a significant amount of debris now.



BumRushDaShow

(169,197 posts)
32. That might be referring to the object that fell onto a frozen water surface in Alaska
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:45 PM
Feb 2023

vs the Lake Huron object that apparently fell into the lake anad might not be recoverable.

ruet

(10,266 posts)
35. I Know This Subject Is All Over The Place, Hard To Keep Up With And Tinged With Politics...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:52 PM
Feb 2023

for some, unknown reason, but; from your own post:

The US and Canada may not be able to recover the debris of the three objects recently shot down.

At this point the US government just needs to lay all of its cards on the table. None of this is helpful.

BumRushDaShow

(169,197 posts)
36. Remember that at least one was over Canadian territory
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:57 PM
Feb 2023

so they have to coordinate with Canada.

But also consider that they are "managing expectations" because they are trying to emphasize that the last 3 objects were much smaller than the infamous "balloon" and thus a hit with some missile would have done more damage to them than what was seen to happen to the balloon, its solar array, and sensor payload.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,114 posts)
37. It seems to fit pretty well.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:05 PM
Feb 2023

"they have been able to recover a significant amount of debris now", followed by "probably commercial".

ruet

(10,266 posts)
38. The Original Title Of This Post Was...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:07 PM
Feb 2023

Debris of downed objects may never be recovered, official warns, as White House tries to tamp down on conspiracies

CNN — The US and Canada may not be able to recover the debris of the three objects recently shot down by the military at President Joe Biden’s direction, a senior administration official said Tuesday morning, a day after the White House tried to tamp down on burgeoning conspiracies.

“If it can’t be recovered, it’s going to be extremely difficult to say with great certainty what these things were,” the official said Tuesday morning. Asked what option the administration has to learn more about these objects if the debris ultimately can’t be recovered, the official said that they are leaning as much as possible on the US intelligence community to assess those objects. Observations of the objects by US military pilots, as well as the objects’ flight patterns before they were shot down, are all being studied, they said.

Since three objects were shot down from the sky over North America in recent days, administration officials have emphasized efforts to recover the debris and the hope that finding their remains will be able to shed important light on their nature. But all three objects were shot down over terrain that is remote and challenging to navigate, which has made the recovery efforts uniquely difficult.

One object is believed to have fallen into deep water in Lake Huron, while Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the search area in Yukon was a “fairly large area” in dense wilderness. Another object was shot down over frozen water in Alaska. Winter weather conditions have also not been helpful, officials have said. Even if some of the debris can be recovered, officials have also warned that the process could take significant time.


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