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Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:05 PM

Gun rights, TikTok, China: George Santos says 'I'm not leaving.' Here's what he's cosponsoring

Source: USAToday

WASHINGTON A lack of committee assignments, an ethics complaint, and calls for his ouster have not stopped George Santos from cosponsoring legislation.

The New York Republican, facing mounting criticism and calls to resign from his GOP colleagues for fabricating his resume and lying about his background, has joined with his colleagues to cosponsor 16 bills so far this Congress.

On Tuesday, Santos doubled down on his refusal to leave Congress: "Let me be very clear, Im not leaving, Im not hiding and I am NOT backing down," he wrote on Twitter.

The measures include legislation that addresses U.S. relations with China, expanding gun rights, banning TikTok on college campuses, and minting coins for working dogs.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/02/14/george-santos-cosponsor-legislation-bills/11248833002/



There has to be a way for constituents to remove an awful person like this.

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Reply Gun rights, TikTok, China: George Santos says 'I'm not leaving.' Here's what he's cosponsoring (Original post)
SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 OP
Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #1
BidenRocks Feb 2023 #24
Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #25
BidenRocks Feb 2023 #27
Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #29
BidenRocks Feb 2023 #33
Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #34
BidenRocks Feb 2023 #37
Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #38
Chainfire Feb 2023 #2
Ocelot II Feb 2023 #3
BidenRocks Feb 2023 #26
BidenRocks Feb 2023 #28
Ocelot II Feb 2023 #30
truthisfreedom Feb 2023 #4
Initech Feb 2023 #5
FakeNoose Feb 2023 #6
smb Feb 2023 #9
SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #11
republianmushroom Feb 2023 #7
SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #8
AllaN01Bear Feb 2023 #10
melm00se Feb 2023 #13
Ocelot II Feb 2023 #31
melm00se Feb 2023 #12
SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #14
melm00se Feb 2023 #19
BidenRocks Feb 2023 #36
oldsoftie Feb 2023 #35
Bo Zarts Feb 2023 #15
bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #16
jgmiller Feb 2023 #17
rambler_american Feb 2023 #18
maxsolomon Feb 2023 #20
ShazzieB Feb 2023 #21
Historic NY Feb 2023 #22
J_William_Ryan Feb 2023 #23
Cha Feb 2023 #32
keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #39
SouthernDem4ever Feb 2023 #40

Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:08 PM

1. A con man knows a good grift when he sees it.

Why would he leave such a sweet deal?

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:15 PM

24. See also

TFG

I wonder if Santos is a distraction from real important issues.

Are they really loyal to America? I would ask them to their face!

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:17 PM

25. They are protecting themselves, how many of the GOP MOC are corrupt?

If they go after Santos, they have to start policing themselves as well.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:24 PM

27. Do you have any ideas?

We really need a new evil, wicked, mean and nasty approach!

Crap. Now Haley is on the news.
Blind me Lord!

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:27 PM

29. Same ideas we keep talking about:

Work on ending gerrymandering, voter suppression, other GOP methods of cheating.

Address the Putin influence in our elections.

Do research to determine why American voters are so susceptible to cults
and misinformation.

Educate Americans about democracy and what will happen if we lose it.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:03 PM

33. Probably why shows like Jerry Spinger

and so much stupid shit is popular.
Of course my Sci-Fi is okay.

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:07 PM

34. People who like Sci Fi generally understand the difference between fantasy and reality.

But the GOP MAGAs don't have a clue about Truth vs Fiction.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:12 PM

37. Sci Fi Friday

Two Stargates and a BSG.
My coping mechanism.

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:28 PM

38. So many to chose from:

I love BSG
Torchwood
FireFly
Black Mirror
Life on Mars

can't remember all of them.

Yes a favorite escape.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:10 PM

2. If his colleagues want to continue to support him, let them live with the consequences.

Being the party of liars, fools and insurrectionists can only take them so far.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:11 PM

3. There is a way to remove him, but it's called an election. There's no recall procedure

for members of Congress so his constituents are stuck with him until the next regularly-scheduled election, unless the House votes to expel him - which seems very unlikely at this point.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:19 PM

26. I betcha that

Palin, Boebert and Greene would argue with that.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:27 PM

28. What if he were a convicted

pedophile?
They would find a way.

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:28 PM

30. Congress would have to expel him, same procedure as for any other offense.

The GOP doesn't seem to be bothered by pedophiles as long as they are their pedophiles. Judge Roy Moore? Matt Gaetz?

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:16 PM

4. He's the new face of the repuque party.

Why on earth would we want him to leave? Never interrupt your enemy when hes making a mistake.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:37 PM

5. Of course not. The GOP is a bloodthirsty cult out for absolute power.

And they don't care what nutcases they run or who they stomp on to get what they desire.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:41 PM

6. He can be expelled from Congress if two-thirds vote against him

What are the chances that 289 Representatives would vote to expel him?

There are 212 Democrats so they'd need to convince 77 Repukes to vote him out.
Does anyone really think it would happen?

Also it wouldn't get to a vote unless McCarthy supported it, and we all know he won't.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:49 PM

9. Hey, George! You Should Publicly DEMAND An Invite To The Republican Cocaine Orgy Circuit!! nt

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Response to smb (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:02 PM

11. He's probably already a member

to all of them.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:41 PM

7. is there anybody who thought he would ?

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Response to republianmushroom (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:43 PM

8. I was hoping his criminal past would put him in jail

He can govern from there. He'll be just as effective.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:55 PM

10. all politicians can be recalled .

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:05 PM

13. Unless you mean

recall at the next available scheduled election, your statement is not true.

See post #12.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:29 PM

31. Not federal ones. There's no recall procedure for members of Congress.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:04 PM

12. While Article I, Section 5

grants that "e)ach House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members...", under Powell v. McCormack (1969) Congress is only allowed to block the seating of a member, if and only if, it is because of one of the reasons spelled out in "Qualifications of Members" clause:

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.


So as repugnant as Santos is, he meets all of these requirements so he had to be seated.

Congress can remove him but that requires a 2/3 vote. This has only happened 5 times in the House and 15 times in the Senate (14 of which happened during the Civil War).

Can his constituents recall him? No. The Constitution does not contain provisions for recalling House or Senate members. When combined with Article I, section 5, no legislation could be passed creating a recall path. Furthermore, this means that once a chucklehead is elected to the House or Senate, those constituents are stuck with him until the next election.

Congress and the government must follow the rules as they are spelled out. If they don't, that opens up the door for all sorts of abuse to secure the power of one party over the other.

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Response to melm00se (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:11 PM

14. This is true, especially when the house is split closely.

I still think there should be recourse for the constituents that voted for him to remove him for certain things, such as misrepresentation. But then that would apply to many I guess. Sigh.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 06:11 PM

19. My gut says that

a recall provision would have to be enshrined in the Constitution which would require an amendment.

Article I, Section 5 is very clear on the elections of Representatives and Senators so any law that attempted to circumvent this power would get shot down by the Courts with the commentary the power of granted by the Constitution could not be struck down by a law (and, more than likely, a state level law).

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Response to melm00se (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:09 PM

36. Is Santos his real name?

Run a security clearance and find out who he really is.

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Response to melm00se (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:09 PM

35. Thank you for that info. Maybe he'll end up convicted of something. nt

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:14 PM

15. Insinuating himself into legitimacy ..

It is the GOP way.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:25 PM

16. Fraud is a public nuisance

Maybe his constituents should plumb local laws

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:27 PM

17. They are in a trap of their own making

If they had a bigger majority they might actually vote to expel him so they could say "See we're not corrupt" but they can't do it because odds are any special election will go to the democrat after this. They could force him to resign of course and maybe offer him some backroom deal so he could avoid prosecution but again the special election would go against them so they can't do that either. All they can do is wring their hands and marginalize him and hope it blows over.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:59 PM

18. How does one EXPAND gun rights?

Issue an AR-15 to every kid at birth?

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Response to rambler_american (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 06:12 PM

20. Federal law mandating

No waiting periods in any state
No age restrictions for purchase
Shall-issue in any state
Allow concealed carry in every state
Allow open carry in every state
Disallow laws banning guns in public settings
Repeal the NFA that restricted Full-Automatic weapons 90 years ago

Every one of those is on the Gunner wish list.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 06:57 PM

21. Santos (or whatever hus name is) has absolutely no shame.

I am not qualified to diagnose him (or anyone else), but he is showing many of the hallmarks of antisocial personality disorder.

People with antisocial personality disorder have no conscience and no sense of right or wrong. They
care only about what THEY want and have no concern for how their actions affect anyne else. Santos' seeming lack of concern about the fact that EVERYONE now knows he has been lying and will continue to lie about absolutely EVERYTHING is consistent with his being a person who is incapable of feeling guilt or shame.

Anyone else would be dying of embarrassment at having all his deceptions found out and knowing that most of the world sees him as a ginormous liar. The fact that he isn't makes me think that embarrassment is simply not part of his very limited emotional repertoire.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:01 PM

22. Well there is any volunteers?

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:14 PM

23. "...banning TikTok on college campuses..."

Such is the neo-fascist, authoritarian right.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 07:32 PM

32. Yeah, we know, Asshole.. That's What

Sociopathic Pathological LAIRS DO..

Your Fucking Day will Come.. No doubt Karma has some Serious Plans for you.

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Response to SouthernDem4ever (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 09:54 PM

39. The republican 'Honorable' George Santos.

The republican 'Honorable' George Santos.

As 'Honorable' as every other republican.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #39)

Wed Feb 15, 2023, 09:25 AM

40. Exactly

They are complicit in his lies since they are letting him sit with them. They really have no shame.

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