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BumRushDaShow

(169,750 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 12:47 PM Feb 2023

Buffalo grocery mass shooter gets life in prison during tense sentencing hearing for racist attack

Last edited Wed Feb 15, 2023, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: NBC News

BUFFALO, N.Y. — The 19-year-old white gunman who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo grocery last year was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison without the possibility of parole during an emotional hearing that was briefly interrupted after a man charged toward him.

The dramatic moment came as the sister of victim Katherine Massey addressed the shooter, Payton Gendron, ahead of his sentencing for the May 14 racist massacre at Tops Friendly Markets.

“You don’t know a damn thing about Black people. We’re human. We like our kids to go to good schools. We love our kids. We never go to no neighborhoods to take people out,” Barbara Massey told the gunman.

As she continued to address the shooter, a man in a gray jogging suit ran toward Gendron, who was rushed out of the courtroom. Authorities surrounded the unidentified man, leading to a short break.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-rushes-buffalo-grocery-mass-shooter-emotional-sentencing-hearing-r-rcna70250



Article updated.

Original article -

BUFFALO, N.Y. — The 19-year-old white gunman who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo grocery last year was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison without the possibility of parole during an emotional hearing that was briefly interrupted after a man charged toward him.

The dramatic moment came as the sister of victim Katherine Massey addressed the shooter, Payton Gendron, ahead of his sentencing for the May 14 racist massacre at Tops Friendly Markets.

“You killed my sister. I will hurt you so bad. I’m not gonna be nice. Kat was my sister. I want to personally choke you out,” Barbara Massey told the gunman.

“You don’t know a damn thing about Black people. We’re human. We like our kids to go to good schools. We love our kids. We never go to no neighborhoods to take people out,” she added.
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Buffalo grocery mass shooter gets life in prison during tense sentencing hearing for racist attack (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 OP
Ten lives lost. So many others shattered. All are victims, some just have to continue to suffer. twodogsbarking Feb 2023 #1
Should've gotten death The Grand Illuminist Feb 2023 #2
A fate worse than death peppertree Feb 2023 #3
It all depends where they put him. The Grand Illuminist Feb 2023 #6
Good point. peppertree Feb 2023 #12
He will not have to provoke anyone. He's a racist killer. If he hits gen pop he will be killed ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #7
Sad, but true. peppertree Feb 2023 #11
they will have to keep that doughboy in isolation for the rest of his life. which is cool too ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #13
+1 peppertree Feb 2023 #20
I agree! secondwind Feb 2023 #9
Thanks. peppertree Feb 2023 #14
I agree PatSeg Feb 2023 #34
Thanks - and may it be an example any others out there like him peppertree Feb 2023 #39
We can always hope PatSeg Feb 2023 #45
Sadly, though, I doubt it'll be the last peppertree Feb 2023 #47
That's the Republican stance, too. NullTuples Feb 2023 #4
Agree. The Mouth Feb 2023 #5
Nope, the death penalty is wrong, period, no exceptions. groundloop Feb 2023 #8
Ofttimes there are no other choices. The Grand Illuminist Feb 2023 #24
A general rule... Happy Hoosier Feb 2023 #19
Yes, capital punishment PatSeg Feb 2023 #35
And if those options run out The Grand Illuminist Feb 2023 #40
I can't imagine any scenario PatSeg Feb 2023 #46
Maybe he can be sarisataka Feb 2023 #23
Well, that ship has sailed, as the saying goes. ShazzieB Feb 2023 #37
I am with you sarisataka Feb 2023 #38
He was convicted and sentenced on state charges in NY clementine613 Feb 2023 #31
This was his state hearing, and NY State doesn't have the death penalty jmowreader Feb 2023 #36
+++ llashram Feb 2023 #10
it would only happen once. He was tough with a gun against unarmed people. It will be fun for him ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #16
While I do not condone any violence, or I support government sanctioned killing, Chainfire Feb 2023 #15
Payton will have the next sixty or seventy years to think about what he did PatrickforB Feb 2023 #17
So true IbogaProject Feb 2023 #18
watching the hearing. barbtries Feb 2023 #21
existing being not dead in prison... pirsquared Feb 2023 #30
Wow... that is incredibly well said. It reminds me... CaptainTruth Feb 2023 #33
"All forms of sex are forbidden", said the Warden. pirsquared Feb 2023 #43
Beautifully stated. ShazzieB Feb 2023 #41
For all the speculation that he will be attacked and killed on the inside, Aristus Feb 2023 #22
+1. He will be a revered figure in prison. dalton99a Feb 2023 #26
POS needs to be dead. dalton99a Feb 2023 #25
Maybe he does, but I don't think it's the government's job to make that happen. ShazzieB Feb 2023 #42
It would take minimal effort sarisataka Feb 2023 #27
If only justice was meted swiftly Marthe48 Feb 2023 #28
He'll be a hero to the Aryan Brotherhood and other racist groups in prison Warpy Feb 2023 #29
Scum. Just scum. CaptainTruth Feb 2023 #32
wonder if this will play out like Sirhan Sirhan Justice has republianmushroom Feb 2023 #44
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2023 #48

twodogsbarking

(18,781 posts)
1. Ten lives lost. So many others shattered. All are victims, some just have to continue to suffer.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 01:18 PM
Feb 2023

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
3. A fate worse than death
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 01:28 PM
Feb 2023

To know you'll be behind bars, for the rest of your natural life? And being 19?

He'll pray he can end up like Dahmer. In fact - like Dahmer - I'm sure he'll try to provoke his jail mates into killing him.

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
12. Good point.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:16 PM
Feb 2023

Though being in New York, I'm not as worried about that as I'd be in South Carolina.

No outings to the Burger King (I hope!).

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
7. He will not have to provoke anyone. He's a racist killer. If he hits gen pop he will be killed
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:04 PM
Feb 2023

I'm going to predict 10 stab wounds
one for each victim.

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
11. Sad, but true.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:14 PM
Feb 2023

I don't wish it on anyone - but when someone's crossed the line that far, it's only inevitable.

To say nothing of the afterlife...

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
13. they will have to keep that doughboy in isolation for the rest of his life. which is cool too
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:17 PM
Feb 2023

He's going into prison with a target and bounty on his head.
That's how prison works for guys like that.
Also child molesters.

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
14. Thanks.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:18 PM
Feb 2023

The worst part is, that we can bet this wasn't the last such incident.

Another one of Rush Lumpball's legacies.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
34. I agree
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:58 PM
Feb 2023

No one can definitively characterize death, so we don't know if that is a punishment or a reward or an escape from responsibility. We pretty much know what life in prison will be. As you said, he is only 19 and he could have a very long time to live in the hell we call prison.

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
39. Thanks - and may it be an example any others out there like him
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 04:20 PM
Feb 2023

Because thanks to Hate Radio, Farce News, and much of our modern GOP, there many more who no doubt are mulling the very same crime.

They're just as guilty as young Mr. Gendron there.

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
47. Sadly, though, I doubt it'll be the last
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 08:08 PM
Feb 2023

Especially as the '24 campaign heats up.

All those Repug candidates stirring the white grievance hornet's nest - as some no doubt will - is bound to have repercussions.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
4. That's the Republican stance, too.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 01:42 PM
Feb 2023

Republicans executed more people during the Trump administration than any presidential administration in more than 120 years.

They're very "eye for an eye" Old Testament Biblical that way.

From what I've read, President Biden takes his New Testament faith seriously and for him, that means no death penalty.

They're all Christians of course; just different flavors, with different goals for themselves and the people whose lives they can affect.

The Mouth

(3,414 posts)
5. Agree.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 01:48 PM
Feb 2023

Too good for him, but cathartic for the families of the victims.

Supermax or such, and never seeing another human for the rest of their life should be the standard. I don't believe there is such a thing as too 'cruel and unusual' for vermin like this.

groundloop

(13,846 posts)
8. Nope, the death penalty is wrong, period, no exceptions.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:05 PM
Feb 2023

This sick motherfucker will spend the rest of his days behind bars, unable to inflict any more harm. As it should be.

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
19. A general rule...
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:26 PM
Feb 2023

... I think giving the state the authority to kill people in a judicial process is going to do far more harm than good.

That doesn't mean this man deserve it. He most certainly does.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
35. Yes, capital punishment
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 04:02 PM
Feb 2023

is basically state-sanctioned murder. I don't think it is healthy for any society or for those involved in the execution. If killing is wrong, it is wrong - there are always other options.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
46. I can't imagine any scenario
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 08:00 PM
Feb 2023

where other options would run out. There have been societies throughout history who have managed to maintain order without resorting to killing the guilty among them, as there are today. If we are to evolve as humans, we have to look for better options.

Meanwhile, I don't know with any certainty what happens to us when we die, so I don't know what we are doing to a person when we execute them. Death just seems like the easy way out.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
23. Maybe he can be
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:52 PM
Feb 2023

The first televised execution by firing squad. I seem to recall some discussion about someone proposing similar yesterday...

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
37. Well, that ship has sailed, as the saying goes.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 04:10 PM
Feb 2023

He's already been sentenced (to life without parole). And New York hasn't had the death penalty in years (it's technically still on the books, but abolished fot all practical purpises.*)

I could opine further about my personal opposition on the death penalty, and why I don't find "jokes" about it remotely funny, but I will leave that conversation for another time.

*For more details on which states still have the death penalty and which have abolished it, see this link: https://deathpenalty.procon.org/states-with-the-death-penalty-and-states-with-death-penalty-bans/

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
38. I am with you
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 04:14 PM
Feb 2023

And opposed to the DP 100%

We do have a lot of people who will say they are opposed to the DP. Except...

In this case I just wanted to point out a bedfellow of those who favor executions.

clementine613

(561 posts)
31. He was convicted and sentenced on state charges in NY
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:42 PM
Feb 2023

and NY does not have a death penalty. It was never an option.

He does face federal charges with the possibility of death, but I doubt that that's going to happen. Since he's going to be in prison for the rest of his life, he'll probably just plead guilty to the federal charges in exchange for a life sentence.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
36. This was his state hearing, and NY State doesn't have the death penalty
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 04:04 PM
Feb 2023

He’s still facing federal charges. He could very well wind up in the Florence Supermax prison, which is a fate much worse than death.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
16. it would only happen once. He was tough with a gun against unarmed people. It will be fun for him
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:22 PM
Feb 2023

to be a out of shape doughboy trapped with much more dangerous people than him, none of them needing a gun to do their worst.

He will live in extreme fear for the rest of his short life before ultimately bleeding out in his cell of a hallway.

I wonder if, as the life drains from his eyes, he will regret being filled with so much racist hate.
Fuck him

.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
15. While I do not condone any violence, or I support government sanctioned killing,
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:19 PM
Feb 2023

This fellow is liable to learn an alternative meaning of justice while serving his term. . A lot of his fellow prisoners and guards will not be willing to forgive the man's personal mini genocide. He is in for a life of fear and physical danger. He will only be safe from harm if he is in solitary confinement. Life in prison is a long damn time when you are 20 years old.

He made his bed, and he can look for sympathy in the dictionary.

PatrickforB

(15,425 posts)
17. Payton will have the next sixty or seventy years to think about what he did
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:23 PM
Feb 2023

while he sits in a 70 sq foot cage for the rest of his life.

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
21. watching the hearing.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:30 PM
Feb 2023
https://www.youtube.com/live/-T3-ob0Wfbk?feature=share

He's sitting there completely unmoved. I'm sitting here crying over this senseless waste of life. I am opposed to the death penalty but have to say I see nothing whatsoever redeemable in this very young white supremacist mass murderer.

Many of the statements are really good. You get a sense of loss that is so enormous it cannot be quantified or satisfactorily explained. Also you get to know the innocent victims a little bit and the love and relationships they were stolen away from.
 

pirsquared

(77 posts)
30. existing being not dead in prison...
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:29 PM
Feb 2023

He will
never see a sunset; never have a love affair and delight in the smile of a girlfriend; never have sex with a woman; never smell spring flowers; never awaken to a pretty snowfall; never get to have a peanut butter snack before bed; never experience the thrill of a roller coaster; never swim in the waves at a seashore; never have a child; never hold a kitten or puppy; never visit the wonders at a national park; never order a tasty meal from a menu; never decorate a Winter Solstice tree; never see the stars on a dark night sky--or even the moon; never own a house and have the pleasure of fixing a faucet; or planting a garden; or smelling freshcut grass; never have anything to look forward to...

He is too young and too dumb to even know what he will miss.

CaptainTruth

(8,200 posts)
33. Wow... that is incredibly well said. It reminds me...
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:54 PM
Feb 2023

...of all the wonderful things we have to enjoy in life!

 

pirsquared

(77 posts)
43. "All forms of sex are forbidden", said the Warden.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 05:40 PM
Feb 2023

I was amazed/dismayed that masturbation is forbidden in prison. When Whitey Bulger was in jail before he was murdered, the guards "caught" him masturbating. I do not want to ask.

"All forms of sex are forbidden", said the Warden.

Bulger was about 80 yrs then, likely prohibited from Viagra, and sending him to solitary does not appear sensible.

I do wonder what the Warden does about sexy dreams.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
41. Beautifully stated.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 04:58 PM
Feb 2023

The closest he will ever come to the smile of a girlfriend will be receiving love letters from deluded female "fans." *gag* (Serial murderers always have a fan club of sorts, and I imagine the same is true of mass shooters, especially if the guy is halfway decent looking.)

He'll probably enjoy those letters, but he'll never know the joy of a flesh and blood relationship with a real live human that he loves and who loves him in return. That is just one of the many, many things to which he gave up the right when he decided to shoot and kill innocent people.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
22. For all the speculation that he will be attacked and killed on the inside,
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 02:40 PM
Feb 2023

there's little doubt in my mind that the prison's white supremacist contingent is going to rally around him and protect him. He'll be a hero to them. There will be no righteous retribution-kill here.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
42. Maybe he does, but I don't think it's the government's job to make that happen.
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 05:27 PM
Feb 2023

Are there are people who do things that they "deserve" to die for? Of course. (I could make a list, and it would not be a short one, believe me.) I realize that many feel that means the government has a right to execute those people, but I honestly believe that the death penalty causes a lot more harm than good, for everyone involved and for society as a whole.

The momentary satisfaction some may feel when an individual like John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy is executed is not worth the profound injustice of executing even one falsely convicted person. (And that's just one of many reasons why I am opposed to it.)

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
27. It would take minimal effort
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:02 PM
Feb 2023

To find threads on the virtues on European prison systems and their quarters such as this in Norway



But then there are cases like this where we seem content to have a prison system that is made of hellholes full of rape and murder. We want some criminals to get the "justice" we believe they deserve.

We can't have it both ways.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
29. He'll be a hero to the Aryan Brotherhood and other racist groups in prison
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 03:28 PM
Feb 2023

but he's still going to have a long, long time to think about what he could have had if he hadn't listened to their bullshit.

Or that's who he'll be for the rest of his life.

His choice.

He won't be able to do it again.

republianmushroom

(22,325 posts)
44. wonder if this will play out like Sirhan Sirhan Justice has
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 07:31 PM
Feb 2023




Death penalty, by jury, life in prison, by court was attempted to be paroled this year by parole board, only stopped by Newson.
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