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catsudon

(859 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 05:50 PM Feb 2023

Zelensky: If China allies itself with Russia, there will be world war III

Source: News.com.au

Volodymyr Zelensky has warned if China backs Russia over the war in Ukraine they could spark World War 3.

Read more: https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/volodymyr-zelensky-warns-of-ww3-if-china-backs-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/news-story/8f1a82e8b375a6860da3d3ef61b6712e



this could be serious. on one hand i'd love to see China fail in a war. But then, many people will die in this, at the end of the day, not something i'd like to see
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Zelensky: If China allies itself with Russia, there will be world war III (Original Post) catsudon Feb 2023 OP
China is in serious financial trouble..they cannot afford sanctions from the west. It would end XI PortTack Feb 2023 #1
Gee. I hope they know that! dchill Feb 2023 #2
Ya might want to read something else besides the MSM when it comes to China PortTack Feb 2023 #6
orange TRAITOR** included Mexico as part of our family? Really? When? niyad Feb 2023 #14
No there won't.But it wouldn't be convenient for anybody. ColinC Feb 2023 #3
Agree. Politicians of all stripes are not above a little political theatre, or performance art. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #15
China would be stupid to get involved. cstanleytech Feb 2023 #4
Oh totally! They are looking at Russia, the sanctions and the possible demise of Russia and saying PortTack Feb 2023 #7
All I ask is to be vaporized without warning ... Auggie Feb 2023 #5
I hear ya. i should buy a decent scotch. Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #10
Hey ... Auggie Feb 2023 #11
I don't think it would make political or economic sense (at least in the west) Prairie_Seagull Feb 2023 #8
Our economies are co-dependent. former9thward Feb 2023 #12
Sometimes it is better to leave certain things unsaid JohnSJ Feb 2023 #9
Well, Mr. Evil Feb 2023 #13
China is already supporting Russia economically, if they cross the line of military support yaesu Feb 2023 #16
Sanction China and it's instant Global recession. WarGamer Feb 2023 #17
"end economic ties" - what will we do for spare parts? They're all made in China. /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #19
The final playout between capitalism and communism bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #18
There are a number of unlikely events that could pull us in to this I think. harun Feb 2023 #20
I think Beijing's priority of self-interest Torchlight Feb 2023 #21

PortTack

(32,935 posts)
1. China is in serious financial trouble..they cannot afford sanctions from the west. It would end XI
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 06:10 PM
Feb 2023

Reign and who knows what else

PortTack

(32,935 posts)
6. Ya might want to read something else besides the MSM when it comes to China
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 06:58 PM
Feb 2023


Geopolitical expert Peter Zeihan lays it out here.

ColinC

(8,475 posts)
3. No there won't.But it wouldn't be convenient for anybody.
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 06:27 PM
Feb 2023

Least of all China.

Why would China give additional resources to a military that has proven -with ample resources, to mishandle it entirely and is losing a war to a substantially smaller and less equipped nation? That would be a bad investment, and China generally makes good investments. Like T-notes.

PortTack

(32,935 posts)
7. Oh totally! They are looking at Russia, the sanctions and the possible demise of Russia and saying
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 07:01 PM
Feb 2023

NO THANKS!

Unlike Russians, the Chinese are very patient..they will wait

Auggie

(31,323 posts)
5. All I ask is to be vaporized without warning ...
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 06:39 PM
Feb 2023

with any luck I'll be sipping a decent scotch or petting a cat.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,384 posts)
8. I don't think it would make political or economic sense (at least in the west)
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 08:10 PM
Feb 2023

for China to get to involved unless they have made a very scary decision, that being that this is it. The second that they were to get involved our sanctions would be crushing and I believe others would follow. India would then be forced to make a decision or become what? I think The PRC would know this and choose the longer view. Just one mans opinion and hope.

former9thward

(32,368 posts)
12. Our economies are co-dependent.
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 09:01 PM
Feb 2023

Both China and the U.S. know it. China (and India) are buying as much Russian oil as it can to help Russia evade oil sanctions. Do you hear the U.S. saying anything about that? Silence.

Mr. Evil

(2,892 posts)
13. Well,
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 09:12 PM
Feb 2023

if China does this (and I really don't think they are that short-sighted and stupid) one thing's for certain. Their economy, whatever its status is, would collapse overnight.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
16. China is already supporting Russia economically, if they cross the line of military support
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 10:39 PM
Feb 2023

Sanctions must kick in, Pres Biden must do everything in his power to end economic ties with China, intrustial and consumer ties. We as citizens will need to get involved by demonstrating outside chinamarts aka Walmarts and all china owned property in the US.

WarGamer

(12,832 posts)
17. Sanction China and it's instant Global recession.
Mon Feb 20, 2023, 10:55 PM
Feb 2023

And that's IF China doesn't dump $1T in Bonds.

bucolic_frolic

(43,977 posts)
18. The final playout between capitalism and communism
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 07:19 AM
Feb 2023

The Czar controlled Russia, pre-1917. Then the commies took over, and Commissar's ran state enterprises and lived lavish lifestyles as political cronies while dishing off peanuts to the peasants. Then the Soviet Union fell and state enterprises were sold to oligarchs which concentrated power. Now capitalism is trying to upend that game so free markets, and western banks, win and the profits accrue to them and private enterprise. Make no mistake, private enterprise is different from oligarchs. They're both private, but one is very concentrated, while the other divides the income stream into smaller pieces. So yes, we could have a hot war over this, in my view.

harun

(11,351 posts)
20. There are a number of unlikely events that could pull us in to this I think.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 12:53 PM
Feb 2023

Most of them quite scary to even write about.

I agree, a real possibility.

Torchlight

(3,645 posts)
21. I think Beijing's priority of self-interest
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 01:43 PM
Feb 2023

will necessarily prevent any direct military involvement in the conflict. I think the trade war that would ensue from the placement of sanctions on (and by) all involved parties would directly interfere with Beijing's economic balancing act.

Though the two nations enjoy better relations now than in the past 40 years, it's relevant to note that China does not recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea, and Russia does not support China's claims in the South China Sea.

And China is in a more advantageous position to leverage more agreeable short-term contracts for the imports of Russian oil and petroleum products.

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