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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:24 PM Feb 2023

Jury in Georgia Trump Inquiry Recommended Multiple Indictments, Forewoman Says

Source: New York Times

A special grand jury that investigated election interference by former President Donald J. Trump and his allies in Georgia recommended indictments of multiple people on a range of charges in its report, most of which remains sealed, the forewoman of the jury said in an interview today. “It is not a short list,” the forewoman, Emily Kohrs, said, adding that the jury had appended eight pages of legal code “that we cited at various points in the report.”

She declined to discuss who specifically the special grand jury recommended for indictment, since the judge handling the case decided to keep those details secret when he made public a few sections of the report last week. But seven sections that are still under wraps deal with indictment recommendations, Ms. Kohrs said. Asked whether the jurors had recommended indicting Mr. Trump, Ms. Kohrs gave a cryptic answer: “You’re not going to be shocked. It’s not rocket science,” adding “you won’t be too surprised.”

The investigation in Atlanta has been seen as one of the most significant legal threats to Mr. Trump as he begins another run for the presidency. In November, the Justice Department named a special counsel, Jack Smith, to oversee two Trump-related criminal investigations. And last month, the Manhattan district attorney’s office began presenting evidence to a grand jury on whether Mr. Trump paid hush money to a porn star during his 2016 presidential campaign, laying the groundwork for potential criminal charges against the former president in the coming months.

A focal point of the Atlanta inquiry is a call that Mr. Trump made on Jan. 2, 2021, to Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, in which he pressed Mr. Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, to recalculate the results and “find” 11,780 votes, or enough to overturn his loss in the state. “We definitely started with the first phone call, the call to Secretary Raffensperger that was so publicized,” said Ms. Kohrs, whom The Associated Press first named and spoke with on Tuesday about the election meddling investigation.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/us/jury-in-georgia-trump-inquiry-recommended-multiple-indictments-forewoman-says.html



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Jury in Georgia Trump Inquiry Recommended Multiple Indictments, Forewoman Says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 OP
'Imagine those jurors were incensed by Trump's "truth social" post that thanked them for exonerating hlthe2b Feb 2023 #1
I do hope she understands Trump will target agingdem Feb 2023 #2
yeah, especially if she's a black lady LymphocyteLover Feb 2023 #19
Well well well "It is not a short list," KS Toronado Feb 2023 #3
I think Fani Willis will not be intimidated into not bringing charges Justice matters. Feb 2023 #5
LOL, Тяцмp is finally going down KS Toronado Feb 2023 #6
Help! I don't know the difference between a 'regular Grand Jury' and the one that I thought...... jaxexpat Feb 2023 #12
In Georgia State, there are two types of Grand Juries. Justice matters. Feb 2023 #14
jeeze -- how long will this second grand jury take to return formal indictments? nt orleans Feb 2023 #17
I don't know how often they convene in Atlanta each month. Justice matters. Feb 2023 #18
Thanks. jaxexpat Feb 2023 #24
Gonna make it rain indictments up in here EYESORE 9001 Feb 2023 #4
"You're not going to be shocked. It's not rocket science" Torchlight Feb 2023 #7
"You're not going to be shocked. It's not rocket science," Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #8
Be still my heart--and hope! pandr32 Feb 2023 #9
Didn't someone here the other day say Graham was lawyering up? Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2023 #10
Ohh, I hope he's on the list! ShazzieB Feb 2023 #21
I can't help thinking if shit gets real for him, he's the kind who'd roll on everyone else. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2023 #22
I wish she would have stayed anonymous kimbutgar Feb 2023 #11
Or worse, her loose lips may have provided a plausible excuse to trash the whole thing...... jaxexpat Feb 2023 #13
the gj just makes recommendations... samnsara Feb 2023 #35
MSNBC said her name & signature, as jury foreperson, was on all the grand jury witness subpoenas. SunSeeker Feb 2023 #31
good republianmushroom Feb 2023 #15
We better buckle up for a rough ride ahead. Grammy23 Feb 2023 #16
Yawn. Wake me up when there are actual charges laid. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2023 #20
Same here. hamsterjill Feb 2023 #30
Looks like somebody is a bit nervous. Tommy Carcetti Feb 2023 #23
When he says "perfect" about a call, its a tell. CoopersDad Feb 2023 #25
If he ever accused me of calling him Sir tavernier Feb 2023 #27
Yep, he could never play poker tonekat Feb 2023 #32
Georgia grand jury recommended indictments for more than a dozen people in Trump probe, foreperson LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #26
I just hope she didn't say anything that compromises the case .. Jarqui Feb 2023 #28
I am so pissed off at her! BigmanPigman Feb 2023 #29
Agree. Just saw her on MSNBC tonekat Feb 2023 #33
GJ in Georgia can talk about the case just not the specific findings samnsara Feb 2023 #34

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
1. 'Imagine those jurors were incensed by Trump's "truth social" post that thanked them for exonerating
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:27 PM
Feb 2023

him.

It sounds to me like Trump is indeed on their indict list.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
2. I do hope she understands Trump will target
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:30 PM
Feb 2023

her by name and there will be threats..she'd better be ready

Justice matters.

(9,787 posts)
5. I think Fani Willis will not be intimidated into not bringing charges
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:54 PM
Feb 2023

as soon as the regular Grand Jury will return indictments.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
6. LOL, Тяцмp is finally going down
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:01 PM
Feb 2023

“You’re not going to be shocked. It’s not rocket science,” adding “you won’t be too surprised.”

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
12. Help! I don't know the difference between a 'regular Grand Jury' and the one that I thought......
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:47 PM
Feb 2023

was being conducted on behalf of the DA, Fani Willis. Just how illiterate am I? Is there hope?

Can you elucidate me/us? Please.

Justice matters.

(9,787 posts)
14. In Georgia State, there are two types of Grand Juries.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:52 PM
Feb 2023

The first one (the one that issued the report here) does not return indictments, just a report.

The second one (the one Fani Willis is working with nowadays) is the GJ that returns formal indictments.

Based on these indictments, it's the DA's job to decide whether or not to bring actual criminal charges based on these indictments.

Justice matters.

(9,787 posts)
18. I don't know how often they convene in Atlanta each month.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:59 PM
Feb 2023

That's a secret, I guess. And they have a lot of cases to vote on (majority rule, not unanimous).

One thing for sure, there will be trials.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
7. "You're not going to be shocked. It's not rocket science"
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:03 PM
Feb 2023

Not the most cryptic statement; taken at face value, it's kinda heartening to me. Maybe soon I'll breathe a sigh of relief a long time coming.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
8. "You're not going to be shocked. It's not rocket science,"
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:03 PM
Feb 2023

I expect a lot of people who swore Trump or his closest associates will never be indicted are going to be shocked. It's still rocket science to them.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
10. Didn't someone here the other day say Graham was lawyering up?
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:31 PM
Feb 2023

I wonder if he's on that "not a short list"?

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
21. Ohh, I hope he's on the list!
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 06:24 PM
Feb 2023

He belongs there, imo. I just hope that second grand jury doesn't take too long to hand down indictments. The suspense is excruciating!

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
22. I can't help thinking if shit gets real for him, he's the kind who'd roll on everyone else.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 06:29 PM
Feb 2023

Unless, of course, those pictures Putin & Trump have of him are really, really good.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
11. I wish she would have stayed anonymous
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:44 PM
Feb 2023

Now I bet the MAGA terrorists in the state will harass and threaten her life.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
13. Or worse, her loose lips may have provided a plausible excuse to trash the whole thing......
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:51 PM
Feb 2023

and start again at zero.

I'm probably wrong, though. Being not so clever as some of the more omnipotent among us.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
31. MSNBC said her name & signature, as jury foreperson, was on all the grand jury witness subpoenas.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 11:21 PM
Feb 2023

She swore in the witnesses. Everyone already knew who she was.

Grammy23

(6,122 posts)
16. We better buckle up for a rough ride ahead.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:55 PM
Feb 2023

Sounds like tRump and a host of his posse will be facing indictments. We know tRump well enough to know he won’t take that news lightly or gladly. Expect a lot of screaming, gesturing and posturing once the news breaks. Never the less, Fani needs to proceed. She cannot be intimidated by this bully who has used his tactics for far too long.

After all the crap we’ve been through watching this dumpster fire play out, it is time to get this show on the road. Indict already and cut to the chase. We’ve waited literally years for tRump to be held accountable and to have some of his minions, too, is icing on the cake.

You can bet when the trials begin it’ll make Watergate look like child’s play. It needs to be carried on multiple channels so the tRump fans cannot miss seeing who he really is. Their chosen one has tainted wings.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
30. Same here.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 11:13 PM
Feb 2023

This woman is loving the attention she is getting way too much for me to take her seriously. If it happens, I’ll be elated. But it hasn’t happened yet.

CoopersDad

(3,332 posts)
25. When he says "perfect" about a call, its a tell.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 07:23 PM
Feb 2023

Same with when he describes a conversation and quotes the other as calling him "Sir".

But then the majority of his statements are false, so we don't really need "tells".

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
27. If he ever accused me of calling him Sir
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 10:26 PM
Feb 2023

I would make it very clear to him that the word I called him was not Sir, but he got two of the letters right.

tonekat

(2,529 posts)
32. Yep, he could never play poker
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 12:29 AM
Feb 2023

He can't hide anything when he lies, he lacks that ability.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
26. Georgia grand jury recommended indictments for more than a dozen people in Trump probe, foreperson
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 08:59 PM
Feb 2023

This will be fun to watch





https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/georgia-grand-jury-recommended-indictments-dozen-people-trump-probe-fo-rcna71675

The Georgia grand jury that investigated possible interference in the 2020 election by Donald Trump and his allies recommended indictments against over a dozen people, the jury foreperson said Tuesday — a list she said "might" include the former president.

"There are certainly names that you will recognize, yes. There are names also you might not recognize," Emily Kohrs said in an interview that will air Tuesday on NBC News’ “Nightly News.”

She said the list of recommended indictments is "not a short list."

"There are definitely some names you expect," she said, declining to name any specific names as per the instructions of the judge who presided over the grand jury.

"I don’t think that there are any giant plot twists coming. I don’t think there's any giant ‘That’s not the way I expected this to go at all’ moments," she said. “I would not expect you to be shocked."

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
28. I just hope she didn't say anything that compromises the case ..
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 10:47 PM
Feb 2023

I'm not clear on why she had to speak and how it affects the greater good.

BigmanPigman

(55,152 posts)
29. I am so pissed off at her!
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 11:11 PM
Feb 2023

She should have had a gag order. She could have screwed up a lot of time and energy spent on this case. What a fool she is. She acts like she is a 13 year old on top of it.

tonekat

(2,529 posts)
33. Agree. Just saw her on MSNBC
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 12:31 AM
Feb 2023

They said apparently in GA this is not prohibited, but still, it could raise questions that would throw a wrench in the works.

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
34. GJ in Georgia can talk about the case just not the specific findings
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 08:11 AM
Feb 2023

..and i think she did a GREAT job

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