DeSantis seeks $98 million to fund Florida's own military

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Source: clickorlando.com


Florida State Guard could be active by July 1




Updated: March 9, 2023 at 5:27 PM


TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – As lawmakers in Tallahassee consider Gov. Ron DeSantis’ budget proposal this session, they will be also be deciding whether to approve a steep funding increase establishing Florida’s own branch of the military.

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“The Florida State Guard will be comprised of Floridians, and it will be assigned to assist and help only Floridians,” DeSantis said in a news conference last June. “It will not be subject to be mobilized by the federal government, and the federal government cannot impose policies or penalties on the Florida State Guard.”

DeSantis claimed the Florida National Guard, which is governed by the federal government and was credited for helping rescue people after hurricanes Ian and Nicole last year, was not providing enough resources to the state......................................

Read more: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/investigators/2023/03/09/desantis-seeks-98-million-to-fund-floridas-own-military/

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No doubt the Florida Repug legislature will ante up the tax money. They have given him any and all the laws he has wanted so far!!

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[LoisB]

1. So, when does Florida secede from the Union and declare war against the United States?

[Chipper Chat]

4. Ron can call his new country

The "Fuckland Islands"

[LoisB]

28. LOL!

[2naSalit]

44. +1

[SallyHemmings]

53. For the win!

[Initech]

63. LMAO!!!!

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

93. lol

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

94. Bigot-landia

[COL Mustard]

19. After we take all Federal assets out

If we pull out all the Federal property and equipment in Florida, there won’t be much for the Florida State Guard to use.

[LoisB]

30. True.

[lonely bird]

42. Agreed

When they pull out destroy the physical bases. All buildings demolished, runways completely torn up and any naval facilities leveled. Tear down Cape Kennedy and rebuild in, say, Nevada or New Mexico.

Establish a passport system that all Floridians must have a passport to visit the United States.

No US support for any natural disasters. He can run to Putin.

He wants his own country then he can have it.

[jmowreader]

76. There's one little problem with relocating Cape Kennedy

That problem is what they do there - launching rockets into equatorial orbit. The place they do this from needs a couple of things - it must be as close to the equator as possible, it must be on the US mainland so things like propellant and astronauts can be driven there, and it must be on the East Coast so if a rocket decides to stop working before it reaches orbit it lands on a school of lionfish rather than someone’s house. The only place that gives you all three is Florida.

[Hekate]

82. This

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

85. Brownsville, TX, should suffice.

I think it's nearer the equator than Cape Canaveral (or Kennedy). If a rocket stops working, it falls on a school of lionfish or on (haha) Florida.

[Grimelle]

48. That was my thinking too.

[jaxexpat]

34. The secession will begin as non-fascist Floridians receive their midnight knocks on the door.

To be sure, DeSantis' "army" will have very little to do with the aid, safety and security of Floridians during times of weather crises. The generals and other "capos" are already in place. The $98 million is to pay the bar bill for the highly "motivated", military rejected, bully-boys who will charade as street patrols, fully armed with everything but intelligence or souls.

The whole purpose of this is to throw fear into the non-white population. It is the heart of Jim Crow come back beating strong. Non-Floridians, do not find yourselves too smug. The way has been made clear for similar outrage in many American locales for similar misuse/abuse of power. If DeSantis succeeds, it will become fashionable in places some people don't expect. Columbus, Oh., Springfield, Mo., Grand Junction, Colo., just about anywhere people have been foolish enough to elect their government from the host of lying bigots who are the current GOP.

[Hekate]

81. This

[CTyankee]

97. Yes, your forecast is right on. DeSantis' Harvard College and Yale Law degrees will not matter

to the electorate who will surely rethink his term in office, especially if he is opposed by a savvy Democratic rival for office. Everybody will be in this fight. I am just hoping his dreams are dashed by Floridians long before he tries to pull that trick on the nation.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

46. When DeSaintless loses nomination or election to prez of UNITED? States

In a fit of pique he'll switch allegiance away from the UNITED States.

If he's Guv, he'll secede the state.

If not he'll start an overt secession movement.

[Initech]

61. I was just like - Florida should just secede already and get it over with.

[LoisB]

67. One of the unfortunate things about governors like DeSantis, Abbott, Youngkin, et al. is that they

are governors in states where there are many good people who are unwilling or unable to relocate to blue states. Many good people who want to stay and fight otherwise I might be willing to say "bye and don't let the door hit you..."

[BaronChocula]

2. Why does ANY fascist need her own army?

And the use of fascist is not hyperbole.

[Skittles]

3. they'll have brown shirts and jackboots

yes indeed

[TheBlackAdder]

7. Did someone's elementary school kid make that sign?

[William Seger]

5. I can't wait to see Ron's uniform

[McKim]

52. Excellent!!!!

Excellent!!!! This story is really really scary!!!! Outrageous !!!!!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

86. Great! Powerful, yet tasteful and muted.

Hey, there's no flamingos on the necktie.

[TheBlackAdder]

6. Less money and support Florida gets when they mooch for socialist hurricane disaster relief?

[Abigail_Adams]

91. Never mind less US currency,

make DeathSantis create a FL-ony currency--let's call it the "croc"--and let him try his luck in the world market with it.

[Rhiannon12866]

8. Does he yearn to go back to his Navy duty as Assistant Urinalysis Coordinator again??

Ron DeSantis' Secret Navy Past EXPOSED and he's a TOTAL FRAUD - Meidas Touch
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017811143

[Crowman2009]

11. More like alleyway to the urine-zone!

[machoneman]

31. Urine too deep Ron in the woke wars!

[SheltieLover]

17. No doubt!

[Rhiannon12866]

18. From all we keep reading, it looks like he wants to be "king" of Florida - on his way up...

[SheltieLover]

20. Yup, lots of dick wagging going on

No doubt jealous of pootin.

This 1 needs to go to jail asap, and spend the rest of his life there!

[ShazzieB]

80. Not just king.

He wants to be Generalisimo DeSantis, tin pot absolute dictator of the Banana Republic of Florida.

[Traildogbob]

40. Pecker Checker Petty Officer No Class.

[area51]

56. DUzy! n/t

[Traildogbob]

57. Corpsmen hated that Title.

I was Ops Specialist 2nd Class, my best friend was a Chief Petty Officer Corpsmen. We still give each other hell, but the Pecker Checker dig is hard to top. But man if you were sick, we respected the hell out of those guys. But after overseas shore leave, sailors lined the bulkhead to see Doc when peeing made em scream. “Check my pecker doc😫😫😫😭😭”.

[2naSalit]

70. +1

[GenThePerservering]

96. ROFL!!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

47. He is pissing away support from the UNITED part of the UNITED States. . . . nt

[Traildogbob]

73. Hope it burns

Like stage four Bull Head Clap. For the rest of his life, every damn day. (I hear it is bad, from my Pecker Checker BFF. For me the rotted penis videos we were forced to watch before Shore Leave scared the hell out of me, so I kept mine locked away).

[bucolic_frolic]

9. "help only Floridians" and probably when Floridians are in other states as well

This is a Civil War brew pot.

[OneTotalMook]

13. We Must Welcome ANY Boondoggle That DeSantis Invents

this can ONLY be a good thing.. sure it's a danger to anyone crossing into Florida from the sea & of course there will be civil violations galore.. but otherwise the state borders GEORGIA(where Brian Kemp will no doubt one up DeSantis by making that forest police SUPERBASE even more of a redoubt) & ALABAMA(where Kay Ivey might try to join the p***ing contest while in progress!). As long as Florida's legislature are willing to spend FLORIDA'S SALES TAXES on DeSantis's brown shirts the rest of us should NOT be worried by it. The solid south is already a thing and they can hire "modern re-enactors" till they are blue in the face. There's NO CHANCE that this force will do enough during a big storm to render FEMA or the National Guard obsolete.

[bucolic_frolic]

15. So is your post supporting DeSantis, then, or is it dripping with

[Karma13612]

22. 👍👍👍

[mcar]

66. Huh?

[Midnight Writer]

10. Will he have a military parade on The Fourth?

Republicans love military parades.

[dalton99a]

37. On his birthday, not the Fourth

A very beautiful military parade WITH TANKS!

[Midnight Writer]

78. Of course. Silly of me to forget it's all about him.

[ashredux]

12. When you push the envelope too far, it breaks and everything in it falls to the floor

Just saying, Ron, you got your ass handed to you about registering bloggers to blog. Do you really think this is gonna work out?

[hlthe2b]

14. Mussolini wannabe needs what?

Floridians, WTF?

[modrepub]

21. Small "Force"

$98M would maybe pay for about 2,000 people (assuming base salary of $50k/yr) for 1 year. That's not including equipment and health care. This would be at best a "supplementary" force and given that salary, probably not a very good one; maybe fit to parade around on TV.

So when the next big hurricane hits FL, do other states not send their NG to help out? FEMA? Or do power companies keep their crews home instead of allowing them to go to affected areas and get the power back on? Rugged individualism seems to be a keyword for I don't give a sh-t about anybody else but me.

[UCmeNdc]

23. WTF? DeSantis wants his own private military?

[machoneman]

32. He's already training them to goose-step in a parade before his Excellency! and singing a new song:

Floridaland Über Alles!

[sl8]

24. Does anyone know how this compares with other state defense force budgets?

Wikipedia lists the active/inactive state defense forces, but not their budgets.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force

[twodogsbarking]

25. I think Trump tried the same thing at a federal level.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

26. When this asshole falls, he's gonna fall hard.

As someone said "the bigger the ego, the harder they fall".

It may be 5, 10, even 20 years, but DeSatin will eventually be consumed by corruption, graft and crime just like his former hero guy.

I'm very proud of the integrity and accomplishments of our Governor Beshear.

KY

[DBoon]

41. He could end up like Huey Long

Though the Kingfisher actually did some good things for the poor people of his state

[gab13by13]

27. Doesn't George Zimmerman live in Florida?

He can be the general of the army.

[SledDriver]

29. "...and the federal government cannot impose policies or penalties on the Florida State Guard."

[machoneman]

33. Who sez? An empty statement for sure.

[dalton99a]

35. They should designate $1 million for Generalissimo DeSantis' uniform and medals

[Paladin]

36. Goose-stepping in those white shrimper boots of his. Lucky us. (nt)

[Kaleva]

38. A number of states have their own militia.

Michigan is one.

"The MIDF uniform differs slightly from the Army uniform; MIDF soldiers wear the state flag on their right shoulder instead of the American flag.[4]

The MIDF is tasked with emergency management missions such as handling the reception, storage and stationing of the Strategic National Stockpile in Michigan, and supplying trained and uniformed Community Emergency Response Teams.[2]

MIDF missions have included working alongside the Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs in processing benefit applications for military veterans,[5] and providing disaster response aid, including tree and debris removal, following tornado activity.[6]

(2022) On its current website, the Michigan Defense Force mission is stated: TO PROVIDE READY AND ABLE MILITARY FORCES TO ASSIST STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES IN TIMES OF STATE EMERGENCIES AND TO AUGMENT THE MICHIGAN ARMY NATIONAL GUARD AND MICHIGAN AIR NATIONAL GUARD AS REQUIRED.[7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Defense_Force

[DBoon]

39. Full employment for Proud Boys?

Give 3-percenters some additional firearms training?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Because he wants to be President of the UNITED? States?

[LiberalFighter]

45. I have a few ideas of what needs to be done.

[2naSalit]

49. Sounds unconstitutional.

[sl8]

51. They're authorized under U.S. code:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/32/109

[...]
(c)In addition to its National Guard, if any, a State, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands may, as provided by its laws, organize and maintain defense forces. A defense force established under this section may be used within the jurisdiction concerned, as its chief executive (or commanding general in the case of the District of Columbia) considers necessary, but it may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the armed forces.
[...]

Most states have something similar, although many are inactive.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force

[sinkingfeeling]

50. Cause every dictator has one.

[zanana1]

90. Fascist Florida.

[Chainfire]

54. As a Floridian, I will say, without hesitation, that proposal doesn't make me feel a bit safer...

I can't get high-speed internet, public transportation or a hospital, but he wants me to have a Brown Shirt Army. People call him a fucking Nazi because he is one.

[flying_wahini]

55. He is a Nazi who wants his own SS. Who'da thunk?

[Grins]

58. Oh, please do this Ronnie!

I'm dying to find out who will join this "military," and how they will fund it, especially - the health and pension plan payments that will go on for DECADES!

[malthaussen]

59. Chicken feed like that will pay for only a few bully boys.

And most will probably be eaten up by corruption, graft, and other "administrative" costs.

This is another stunt so the runt can look like a big man before his mother.

-- Mal

[Happy Hoosier]

60. " the federal government cannot impose policies or penalties on the Florida State Guard...."

Yeah, good luck with that.

The Constitution offers some room for the indepence of State Militias, but to say the the Federal Govermnet CANNOT impose policies or penalties is just factually inaccurate.

[Grins]

62. $98 million? How pathetic and stupid that is (with numbers)...

The police budget for just the city of Orlando, FL is $210-million. More than twice what DeSantis proposed for his scam 'military.' For a city - without a Navy, an Air Force, etc....

[Initech]

64. Easy answer to that - go fuck yourself, Ronnie.

The culture war is not to be an actual war, damn it.

[dchill]

65. Welcome to DeSantistan.

[Bayard]

68. Oh, hell NO!

And people are supposed to believe this is just to have more specific help after hurricanes? Just look at their little cartoon flag--"Let Us Alone."

He'll need millions more to start building a wall around the state.

[Evolve Dammit]

69. Dicktater wanna be; Drumpf inspired him to do more, and he is. Who's going to stop him? nt

[Kennah]

71. DerSantis

[Kennah]

72. Tallahassee Mussolini

[DashOneBravo]

79. ..

Never seen that

[Jack the Greater]

74. California has a State Guard

"Our roots go back to 1846 before California was even a state. Over the years our name and structure have changed, but our mission has not – protecting California. Today’s California State Guard was organized and activated as the State Defense Force of California on January 2nd, 1941 as an amendment to the California Military & Veterans Code § 550."

[Jack the Greater]

75. 23 states have active State Guards

... including California, Washington, Virginia, Vermont, Rhode Island, Oregon, New York, New Mexico, Michigan, Massachusetts and Connecticut. Only five states have never established a State Guard.

[EX500rider]

77. It was actually established in 1941

The Florida State Guard (FSG) is the state defense force of the U.S. state of Florida. The FSG was created in 1941 to serve as a stateside replacement for the Florida National Guard while the National Guard was deployed abroad during World War II. The FSG is available to the governor of Florida whenever needed, but unlike the National Guard, the FSG is trained and funded by the state and therefore can not be federalized.[3] The FSG was reactivated in 2022 after the Florida legislature appropriated US$10 million in funding.

State defense forces are authorized by the federal government under Title 32, Section 109 of the United States Code.[4]
Twenty-three states, as well as the territory of Puerto Rico, actively maintain these forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Guard

[Delphinus]

83. No!

This has to be illegal, right?

[Martin68]

84. This wingnut is a genius at manufacturing bogus issues to spend money on and get upset about.

[2live is 2fly]

87. Curious what this a$$hole is going to substitute for Fort Sumpter. Also WTF is he

going to accomplish with a piddly $98 million? Especially after, as has already been suggested here (sweeet), the feds take what we American citizens payed for?

[Cha]

88. That's the Question.. WHY does

deSadist need his own private military?

Thinking of starting a fucking War?

[SunSeeker]

89. Why? Because he is a fascist. nt

[The Grand Illuminist]

92. Strike first before they strike.

Simple as that.

[GenThePerservering]

95. This is no "Florida Guard"

This is DeSatan's new fascist plaything. The "Guard" will be used to enforce his dictats.

[Kaleva]

98. It looks similar to the militias and guards that other states have