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anobserver2

(928 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:46 PM Nov 2012

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Driving is a privilege, not a right. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #6
she can still drive Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #14
She probably cannot fly without it...? n/t onecent Nov 2012 #26
Without a driver's license, she can't get on a plane unless she has her passport. amandabeech Nov 2012 #29
her passport can't be revoked as such lanlady Nov 2012 #38
what was her d.l. doing in rock creek park? Botany Nov 2012 #2
So it could be found there when she vanished from rzemanfl Nov 2012 #3
Very Interesting HangOnKids Nov 2012 #8
I hadn't really thought of that possibility. However, if that were the case rzemanfl Nov 2012 #10
dont you need id to get to a safety deposit box? aletier_v Nov 2012 #28
That was my first thought sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #9
Either that, or she was trying to establish her presence in DC as of the time that it was found. amandabeech Nov 2012 #30
I also think the FBI is supremely pissed off at her and will make her life a living hell. At least monmouth3 Nov 2012 #17
Found in the grass by a jogger..... kalli007 Nov 2012 #4
It just gets stranger and stranger Gman Nov 2012 #5
OK, but who's got the Gap dress? BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #7
Oh Lordy 2naSalit Nov 2012 #11
I'll date myself Coyotl Nov 2012 #12
Ooops 2naSalit Nov 2012 #20
So, where is the news in all this? Coyotl Nov 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author anobserver2 Nov 2012 #16
But wait, there's more... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #18
I find it doubtful that Jill's twin had an actual affair with Charlie Crist. yardwork Nov 2012 #22
May well be... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #24
It's a confusing mess. Not surprising, since the head of the CIA is in the middle of it. yardwork Nov 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author anobserver2 Nov 2012 #36
Just the Drivers License? No wallet, credit cards, photos, or other stuff usually found in a wallet. JimDandy Nov 2012 #15
Lost it jogging. She and her family have been staying w/ her brother in DC. leveymg Nov 2012 #21
Read that article after I posted. Makes sense now. JimDandy Nov 2012 #35
Someone stole her purse marions ghost Nov 2012 #19
She took her phone from her pocket and Coyotl Nov 2012 #23
I just find this to be a weird coincidence. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #27
Yeah, that's what I keep thinking about. amandabeech Nov 2012 #31
come on, guys. this all revolves around the KING OF SPOOKS! aletier_v Nov 2012 #33
Yep. Just that unbelievable. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #34
The OP story sounds strange because yesterday I read an article that said ... Tx4obama Nov 2012 #32
All she needs is a passport... DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #37
Hope for her sake she didn't say "no" if they had asked her if she had been rainbow4321 Nov 2012 #39

Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. Driving is a privilege, not a right.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:03 PM
Nov 2012

I think that there is US case law that makes freedom of movement about the country a virtual right, but that does not include any right to having a driver's license. However, if a person has met the requirements laid out by state law for owning one, I don't think the government can arbitrarily withhold it. It does seem odd that the FBI would hold it, but perhaps she can claim it at any time.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
14. she can still drive
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:22 PM
Nov 2012

she'll just get a ticket for not having her license with her.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
26. She probably cannot fly without it...? n/t
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:17 PM
Nov 2012
 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
29. Without a driver's license, she can't get on a plane unless she has her passport.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:43 PM
Nov 2012

I would expect that passport to be revoked as well.

Also, without her driver's license or passport, she can't get into Canada or Mexico.

I wonder if she was in her home when the FBI came in to get all her documents relating to Petreaus.

lanlady

(7,229 posts)
38. her passport can't be revoked as such
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:55 PM
Nov 2012

But it can sure be seized to prevent her from fleeing the country.

Botany

(77,254 posts)
2. what was her d.l. doing in rock creek park?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:49 PM
Nov 2012

rzemanfl

(31,352 posts)
3. So it could be found there when she vanished from
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:54 PM
Nov 2012

the face of the earth. That is pretty tin foily but it is what I think might have been happening before it was realized that the horse was so far out of the barn that wacking her would not solve anything.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
8. Very Interesting
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:09 PM
Nov 2012

If I am clear here, do you submit that she "lost" her license on purpose as a means of protecting her life? I buy that theory, if she thought she might be whacked she was leaving some bread crumbs. BTW Chandra Levy was killed in the same park.

rzemanfl

(31,352 posts)
10. I hadn't really thought of that possibility. However, if that were the case
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:14 PM
Nov 2012

wouldn't something in a safe deposit box be a better idea? My thought was that whoever planned to whack her got ahold of the license, thinking Chandra Levy.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
28. dont you need id to get to a safety deposit box?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

thats what i remember

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
9. That was my first thought
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:10 PM
Nov 2012

She dropped it in case she didn't make it back from her jog

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
30. Either that, or she was trying to establish her presence in DC as of the time that it was found.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:44 PM
Nov 2012

At any rate, it certainly is strange.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
17. I also think the FBI is supremely pissed off at her and will make her life a living hell. At least
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:49 PM
Nov 2012

that is what I'm hoping..

kalli007

(683 posts)
4. Found in the grass by a jogger.....
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:54 PM
Nov 2012

I *think* like a day or 2 before the story broke......cant remember specifics.

Weird.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
5. It just gets stranger and stranger
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:02 PM
Nov 2012

BeyondGeography

(41,075 posts)
7. OK, but who's got the Gap dress?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:07 PM
Nov 2012

2naSalit

(102,528 posts)
11. Oh Lordy
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:16 PM
Nov 2012
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
12. I'll date myself
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:20 PM
Nov 2012

It was Peyton Place

2naSalit

(102,528 posts)
20. Ooops
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks. Geeze, and I lived in NH when that was a popular story! Now that my caffeine is kicking in I think I can think better!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. So, where is the news in all this?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:21 PM
Nov 2012

Someone dropped something, see pages 3-7 for details

Response to Coyotl (Reply #13)

2naSalit

(102,528 posts)
18. But wait, there's more...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:18 PM
Nov 2012

I feel so silly about all this now but I still hold that it was way more than a naughty little sex scandal...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/david-petraeus-scandal-explained

A well organized timeline by MotherJones... it's long and I'm looking for anything really new. Only thing I've found so far is that Jill's twin had an affair with fmr. FL gov. Crist.

yardwork

(69,304 posts)
22. I find it doubtful that Jill's twin had an actual affair with Charlie Crist.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:31 PM
Nov 2012

It might have been a pretend affair for show, but I sincerely doubt that it was consummated.

2naSalit

(102,528 posts)
24. May well be...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:13 PM
Nov 2012

I was still reading through it when I posted the link. It doesn't make sense but who knows? This whole thing is so convoluted. I think the most telling and worthy part of the article was where they said that it was a love triangle that turns out to have so many sides there may be no defining what shape it actually has!


yardwork

(69,304 posts)
25. It's a confusing mess. Not surprising, since the head of the CIA is in the middle of it.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:11 PM
Nov 2012

Who knows what is really going on. They'll never tell us.

Response to yardwork (Reply #25)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
15. Just the Drivers License? No wallet, credit cards, photos, or other stuff usually found in a wallet.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:22 PM
Nov 2012

An drivers license just laying somewhere in the park, by itself. VERY strange. No police report by Broadwell of a missing wallet, license? Even STRANGER!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
21. Lost it jogging. She and her family have been staying w/ her brother in DC.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:26 PM
Nov 2012

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
35. Read that article after I posted. Makes sense now.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:07 PM
Nov 2012

I've gone jogging in the past with just my drivers license in a home-made pouch hanging from my neck, so it wouldn't get lost dropping out of a pocket. You know, for just in case...

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
19. Someone stole her purse
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

and then realized they didn't want her identity...

It seems strange, not sure I can buy the simple explanation that it fell out of her tracksuit jacket as she jogged in the park....


 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
23. She took her phone from her pocket and
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:55 PM
Nov 2012

or was it keys, or whatever, it fell. -30-

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
27. I just find this to be a weird coincidence.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

Like rescue workers finding Terrorist passports at the 9/11 site. Really, what are the odds?

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
31. Yeah, that's what I keep thinking about.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:46 PM
Nov 2012

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
33. come on, guys. this all revolves around the KING OF SPOOKS!
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:22 PM
Nov 2012

coincidence?..

i dont think so.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
34. Yep. Just that unbelievable.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:33 PM
Nov 2012

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
32. The OP story sounds strange because yesterday I read an article that said ...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nov 2012

... it had already been sent back to her

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
37. All she needs is a passport...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:42 PM
Nov 2012

to get out of the country.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
39. Hope for her sake she didn't say "no" if they had asked her if she had been
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:51 PM
Nov 2012

at Rock Creek Park area lately.

That would be an "oops..." for her!



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