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Omaha Steve

(109,234 posts)
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:30 AM Mar 2023

Russian President Putin visits occupied city of Mariupol

Source: AP

27 minutes ago

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin has visited the occupied port city of Mariupol, Russian state news agencies reported Sunday, his first trip to the Ukrainian territory that Moscow illegally annexed in September.

Earlier, on Saturday, Putin traveled to Crimea, a short distance southwest of Mariupol, to mark the ninth anniversary of the Black Sea peninsula’s annexation from Ukraine. Mariupol became a worldwide symbol of defiance after outgunned and outmanned Ukrainian forces held out in a steel mill there for nearly three months before Moscow finally took control of it in May.

The visits, during which he was shown chatting with local residents in Mariupol and visiting an art school and a children’s center in Crimea, were a show of defiance by the Russian leader two days after a court issued a warrant for his arrest on war crimes charges. Putin has not commented on the arrest warrant, which deepened his international isolation despite the unlikelihood of him facing trial anytime soon.

The trip also came ahead of a planned visit to Moscow by Chinese President Xi Jinping this week, expected to provide a major diplomatic boost to Putin in his confrontation with the West.



Read more: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-5482b8f62cc70efbdbeb0b3f492c0393

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Russian President Putin visits occupied city of Mariupol (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2023 OP
imagine if a local could've taken him out. nt oldsoftie Mar 2023 #1
Oh, of course, Biden travels to Ukraine, then copy cat Putin travels to Ukraine. Ligyron Mar 2023 #2
Putin was just in Ukraine a few months ago. former9thward Mar 2023 #14
Putinkin village: Looks like a freshly constructed building, unlike the rest of Mariupol Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #3
We really don't know when or where that photo was taken CanonRay Mar 2023 #7
CBC News confirms it is a freshly built building. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #19
I hope we can give Ukraine a daisy-cutter Mysterian Mar 2023 #4
There's an international arrest warrant out for him. Arrest him. Novara Mar 2023 #5
Body double, anyone? sheepfarm Mar 2023 #6
I could be wrong on this tornado34jh Mar 2023 #8
Citizen's arrest then Bayard Mar 2023 #10
What citizen is going to do that? former9thward Mar 2023 #11
Sure Bayard Mar 2023 #17
No. former9thward Mar 2023 #18
Or, optimism Bayard Mar 2023 #22
I'm not sure how Ukrainian criminal proceedings go tornado34jh Mar 2023 #12
Doing a Biden. paleotn Mar 2023 #9
THIS!!☝️ onetexan Mar 2023 #20
Why are these Ukranians (if they are) smiling? ificandream Mar 2023 #13
They're smiling because that's not Putin. tavernier Mar 2023 #15
Yeah, this "Putin" looks healthier than other pics I've seen. ificandream Mar 2023 #16
Because some Ukrainians would actually prefer to be ruled by Moscow... Xolodno Mar 2023 #23
Unless Putin is in very poor health... trof Mar 2023 #21

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
2. Oh, of course, Biden travels to Ukraine, then copy cat Putin travels to Ukraine.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:30 AM
Mar 2023

See, I'm as brave as you...oh wait, you went to an active war zone under attack, I played it safe and came to an area under our control for years that wasn't.

According to Putin's own declarations, he never left his own country even.

Coward.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
14. Putin was just in Ukraine a few months ago.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:15 PM
Mar 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-drives-across-crimea-bridge-mercedes-2022-12-05/

Nothing to do with Biden. Kyiv was not under attack. The U.S. told Russia about Biden's visit beforehand to make sure it would not be.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
3. Putinkin village: Looks like a freshly constructed building, unlike the rest of Mariupol
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:48 AM
Mar 2023

I can only see the one photo you posted (article won't show them to me, prob because of my setup).

Variation of Potemkin village.

sheepfarm

(38 posts)
6. Body double, anyone?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 10:07 AM
Mar 2023

Weird how a known germophobe whom in the last three plus years refuses to be seen sitting near anyone within 30 yards of him, is also known to be utterly paranoid of being assassinated & whom doesn't travel anywhere except in a bullet-proof train, suddenly turns up to meet "residents" with no obvious security service present? Not to mention that getting to Mariupol & Crimea in the current circumstances from most of Russia would be a major security risk, yet he drove himself around after he landed in Mariupol? I smell a rat!

Doesn't help that he didn't do any public speeches or speak to any reporters.

I'm not the only one...




Anton Gerashchenko @Gerashchenko_en

Two photos: "Putin" at his Security Council and "Putin" in Mariupol.

Is he scared of his officials more than of Mariupol's "residents"?

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
8. I could be wrong on this
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:01 AM
Mar 2023

But as far as I know of, I don't think Ukraine has an extradition treaty with the Netherlands. Also, Ukraine is not a signatory of the Rome Statute to the ICC, so even if Putin was there, I am not sure what they could do. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely think he should be arrested, but I am not sure how the whole process would work.

Bayard

(29,707 posts)
22. Or, optimism
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 10:57 PM
Mar 2023

There are so many people that want Putin taken out, I can't believe he's lasted this long. I suspect, at this point, it will be one of his inner circle that actually cares about their country.

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
12. I'm not sure how Ukrainian criminal proceedings go
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:12 PM
Mar 2023

I am not familiar with Ukrainian law, but to be honest, I don't think it is just Ukraine who wants to arrest him. I will probably bet you Georgia wants to do the same, or at least, many people in Georgia want to anyway. However, I don't see who will risk doing a citizen's arrest of Putin, since even if he went to Ukraine, it probably would stay in the occupied territories.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
13. Why are these Ukranians (if they are) smiling?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:12 PM
Mar 2023

I suspect these aren't Ukranians at all. This is phony.

Xolodno

(7,350 posts)
23. Because some Ukrainians would actually prefer to be ruled by Moscow...
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 05:29 PM
Mar 2023

...instead of Kyiv.

There is a lot of sympathizers with Russia and they distrust the west. The eastern and southern part of Ukraine voted heavily for pro Russia candidates instead of pro West the last time around.

This isn't cut and dry as we are being told.

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