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brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:28 PM Mar 2023

Polish Ambassador to France: Poland will be forced to enter war if Ukraine fails to defend itself

Source: Ukrainska Pravda

Poland’s Ambassador to France Jan Emeryk Rościszewski said in an interview that a situation could arise in which Poland would have to enter the war. The embassy urged audiences to refrain from sensationalising his words.

Quote from Rościszewski: "It is not NATO, Poland or Slovakia that are mounting ever more pressure, but Russia, which has invaded Ukraine. Russia, which is seizing its territories. Russia, which is killing its people. And Russia, which is abducting Ukrainian children.

Therefore, either Ukraine will defend its independence today, or we will have to enter this conflict. Because our main values, which were the basis of our civilization and our culture will be threatened. Therefore, we will have no choice but to enter the conflict."

Details: Following the ambassador’s remark, Poland’s Embassy in France issued a statement saying that it has been interpreted by some media "out of context".



Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/polish-ambassador-france-poland-forced-201021342.html
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montanacowboy

(6,082 posts)
1. Good for Poland
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:37 PM
Mar 2023

The whole of Europe will be in danger if Ukraine fails. Then we will see what France and Germany will do. Those of us old folks can remember what happened before.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
3. One for all, all for one, NATO.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:56 PM
Mar 2023

Last edited Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Now that Putin is an internationally wanted war criminal with little or nothing to lose ...what's the Plan C?

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
15. THIS!!☝️ given poland is a nato member, if it joins the conflict
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 01:39 PM
Mar 2023

The 'one for all, all for one' Article 5 will be activated. That MAY be the best outcome of poland joining the war. With ukr right at its borders & with millions of ukr refugees taking shelter within its boundaries i dont see how ploand can escape the conflict.

maxsolomon

(33,308 posts)
16. Is that how Article 5 works?
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 02:54 PM
Mar 2023

I thought it was if a NATO member is attacked, not attacks. Defense not offense.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
18. Umm good pt but in this case i would also deem it self defense
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
Mar 2023

Or rather a preemptive move. Given russian aggression i dont doubt nato wld need to come to poland's defense.

Warpy

(111,243 posts)
4. I would hate to see this thing spread
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:24 PM
Mar 2023

but I know the Poles are sick of being afraid of the bear in the woods. So far, they're lining the borders with Russia and Belarussia with metal and concrete hedgehog antitank traps. Shooting is a bit premature, they've been on a military spending spree but they've got the same need for training on S. Korean systems that Ukraine had on US, UK, German, and French systems.

This why so much of the world reacted so strongly against Russia's invasion of Ukraine: European land wars have a nasty habit of expanding into world wars.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
5. I think the leaders of Poland know that Putin will not atop with Ukraine.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:27 PM
Mar 2023

He is building an empire for his own glory. Any number of lives should be willingly sacrificed to achieve his desires. Someone needs to put this man out of Ukraine’s misery.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
6. The Polish ambassador said aloud what we all know
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:49 PM
Mar 2023

If UKR topples, Poland & other countries will be next given putin & his comrades in crime w be emboldened.
These countries have no choice but to defend themselves.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
7. They are next in line and I am heartened to hear of the line being drawn. Thank you Poland!
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:56 PM
Mar 2023

and Fuck Putin.

nevergiveup

(4,759 posts)
8. The Polish people have proven in the past much like
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:35 PM
Mar 2023

the Ukrainian people are proving today that they are some of the bravest folks in the world. Putin, much like Hitler is a fool.

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
9. Putin would absorb Belarus before attempting to take on a NATO country.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:35 PM
Mar 2023

There are plans to do this by 2030, but the continuing resistance from Ukraine may make him move faster on that.

The Polish are right to be wary, but I doubt they would be his first NATO target.

It's more likely he'd try to cut a corridor through Lithuania to try to prevent Kaliningrad from being cut off in the event of a wider war.

Bayard

(22,057 posts)
11. How can Putin continue to push into other countries?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 10:50 PM
Mar 2023

He can't afford the war in Ukraine now.

Just saying.

Shipwack

(2,161 posts)
13. I agree, but...
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 12:13 AM
Mar 2023

If people could be counted on as being rational, we wouldn't be looking at Trump credibly running for president for a third time.

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
12. If they do this on their own without NATO approval, then we're not legally bound to join them
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 12:07 AM
Mar 2023

Thankfully our administration doesn't make such comments.

AverageOldGuy

(1,523 posts)
14. Also in Poland . . .
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 08:41 AM
Mar 2023

I read an article a couple of days ago reporting that Polish security services had broken up a plot by Russians in Poland to blow up rail facilities that were being used to ship military supplies to Ukraine.

In WW II:
-- Poles provided the Brits with one or more German ENIGMA machines, thereby greatly aiding in the breaking of German military codes.
-- Polish troops went ashore on D-Day.
-- Polish troops fought from Normandy all the way into Germany.

Not a good idea to mess with the Poles.

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