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BumRushDaShow

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Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:46 AM Mar 2023

Manhattan DA's office slams House GOP inquiry, says it was motivated by Trump

Last edited Thu Mar 23, 2023, 02:29 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: CNN Politics

CNN — The office of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg accused House Republicans of launching an “an unprecedent inquiry into a pending local prosecution,” while defending the investigation into former President Donald Trump’s alleged hush money payments to an adult film actress during the 2016 campaign.

In a new letter to Republican lawmakers who earlier this week had sought information about the probe, Leslie Dubeck, the general counsel for the district attorney’s office, told the GOP House committee leaders that they lacked a “legitimate basis for congressional inquiry” and she noted that their requests for information “only came after Donald Trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested the next day and his lawyers reportedly urged you to intervene.”

Dubeck called the Republicans’ claims that the probe was politically motivated “unfounded.” She added that, “regardless, the proper forum for such a challenge is the Courts of New York, which are equipped to consider and review such objections.” She requested that the committees meet and confer with Bragg’s office to discuss whether the House has a “legitimate legislative” purpose for what it is seeking and whether those records could be turned over without infringing on New York’s sovereign interests.

The previous letter demanding information about Bragg’s investigation was sent Monday by House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, House Oversight Chairman James Comer and House Administration Chairman Bryan Steil, who criticized the hush money probe into Trump as an “unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority.” Jordan told CNN “we’re reviewing the letter” when asked for his response to the letter from the general counsel of the Manhattan DA. Jordan repeated his answer when asked if he would subpoena Bragg.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/23/politics/manhattan-da-house-gop-inquiry



Full headline: Manhattan DA's office slams House GOP inquiry, says it was motivated by Trump creating 'false expectation' of imminent arrest

Link to the letter (PDF) is here.

Article updated.

Previous article -

CNN -- The office of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg accused House Republicans of launching an "an unprecedent inquiry into a pending local prosecution," while defending the investigation into former President Donald Trump's alleged hush money payments to an adult film actress during the 2016 campaign.

In a new letter to Republican lawmakers who earlier this week had sought information about the probe, Leslie Dubeck, the general counsel for the district attorney's office, told the GOP House committee leaders that they lacked a "legitimate basis for congressional inquiry" and she noted that their requests for information "only came after Donald Trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested the next day and his lawyers reportedly urged you to intervene." Dubeck called the Republicans' claims that the probe was politically motivated "unfounded."

She added that, "regardless, the proper forum for such a challenge is the Courts of New York, which are equipped to consider and review such objections." She requested that the committees meet and confer with Bragg's office to discuss whether the House has a "legitimate legislative" purpose for what it is seeking and whether those records could be turned over without infringing on New York's sovereign interests. The previous letter demanding information about Bragg's investigation was sent Monday by House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, House Oversight Chairman James Comer and House Administration Chairman Bryan Steil, who criticized the hush money probe into Trump as an "unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority."

Dubeck's five-page response to the Republicans' demands - which included testimony from Bragg as well as documents and communications related to the investigation - cited case law and legal arguments for why the GOP requests amounted to an "unlawful incursion into New York's sovereignty." She said that the Constitution's 10th Amendment limited the federal government's authority over local law enforcement and argued that Congress specially is not an executive branch entity with law enforcement powers.


Original article -

CNN -- The Manhattan district attorney's office investigating former President Donald Trump's role in an alleged hush money payment scheme slammed House Republicans for their inquiry into a "pending local prosecution," saying they were reacting to Trump creating a "false expectation that he would be arrested the next day."

In a letter to the GOP chairmen who requested information on the probe, the Manhattan DA's general counsel called for a meeting to "confer with committee staff to better understand what information the DA's Office can provide that relates to a legitimate legislative interest."


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Manhattan DA's office slams House GOP inquiry, says it was motivated by Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 OP
What A Crock That Letter Is Me. Mar 2023 #1
Politico reporters Kyle Cheney and Jordain Carney have tweeted out copies of most of the letter BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #3
Love The 'Congress Is Not A Law Enforcement Or Trial Agency' Line Me. Mar 2023 #5
I don't have a twitter account but can read the web versions and the replies are hilarious BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #6
.... MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #2
I added a link to the full letter BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #8
burn..... Novara Mar 2023 #4
I would have liked to read the phrase, "your actions are an attempt to obstruct justice" Escurumbele Mar 2023 #7
They basically say it in this section of the letter in a more legalistic manner BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #10
In other words Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 #9
K&R ck4829 Mar 2023 #11

BumRushDaShow

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3. Politico reporters Kyle Cheney and Jordain Carney have tweeted out copies of most of the letter
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:17 AM
Mar 2023



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BRAGG bottom line: There’s no legitimate legislative reason to probe his ongoing investigation. The claim that it’s purely political is “unfounded” and can only be legitimately alleged during NY court proceedings.
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(both combined appear to have the "whole letter" )

Me.

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5. Love The 'Congress Is Not A Law Enforcement Or Trial Agency' Line
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:25 AM
Mar 2023

In other words, go stuff it

BumRushDaShow

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6. I don't have a twitter account but can read the web versions and the replies are hilarious
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:45 AM
Mar 2023



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BRAGG bottom line: There’s no legitimate legislative reason to probe his ongoing investigation. The claim that it’s purely political is “unfounded” and can only be legitimately alleged during NY court proceedings.
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This is a beautiful & well substantiated letter shutting down the 🤡 show.
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BRAGG bottom line: There’s no legitimate legislative reason to probe his ongoing investigation. The claim that it’s purely political is “unfounded” and can only be legitimately alleged during NY court proceedings.
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Effectively telling Jim to buzz off because he has no jurisdiction for oversight & issue is not ripe to bring to court. Again, committee bites dust.
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BRAGG bottom line: There’s no legitimate legislative reason to probe his ongoing investigation. The claim that it’s purely political is “unfounded” and can only be legitimately alleged during NY court proceedings.
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BRAGG bottom line: There’s no legitimate legislative reason to probe his ongoing investigation. The claim that it’s purely political is “unfounded” and can only be legitimately alleged during NY court proceedings.
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Hopefully someone will read this to Jim Jordan slowly so he can understand it.
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BRAGG bottom line: There’s no legitimate legislative reason to probe his ongoing investigation. The claim that it’s purely political is “unfounded” and can only be legitimately alleged during NY court proceedings.
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MarineCombatEngineer

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2. ....
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:01 AM
Mar 2023
In a letter to the GOP chairmen who requested information on the probe, the Manhattan DA’s general counsel called for a meeting to “confer with committee staff to better understand what information the DA’s Office can provide that relates to a legitimate legislative interest.


I love this part I bolded, they're basically saying prove that this has anything to do with the legislative process and why it's any of their business.

The DA's office is giving Gym the finger, figuratively speaking.

BumRushDaShow

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8. I added a link to the full letter
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 01:34 PM
Mar 2023

and in it, he schools non-bar certified Gymsuit in the concept of the GOP's beloved "states rights" (that apparently only apply to red states) -

Requests Regarding the Exercise of State Police Powers Violate New York's
Sovereignty


The Letter's requests are an unlawful incursion into New York's sovereignty. Congress's
investigative jurisdiction is derived from and limited by its power to legislate concerning
federal matters. See , e.g., Eastland v. U.S. Servicemen's Fund, 421 U.S. 491, 503-05 (197 5);
Barenblatt v. United States, 360 U.S. 109, 111-12 (1959); Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 195-
96 (1880).

The Constitution limits Congress's powers to those specifically enumerated; and the Tenth
Amendment ensures that any unenumerated powers are reserved to the States. New York v.
United States, 505 U.S. 144, 155-56 (1992). It is therefore generally understood that a
Congressional committee may not "inquire into matters which are . . . reserved to the States."
Charles XI. Johnson, et al., House Practice: A Guide to the Rules, Precedents, and Procedures
of the House at 254 (GPO 2017) 8; see also Watkins, 354 U.S. at 187 ( "The power of the
Congress to conduct investigations ... comprehends probes into departments of the Federa l
Go v ernment .... " ) (emphasis added).9

Among the powers reserved to the states, "[p]erhaps the clearest example of traditional state
authority is the punishment of local criminal activity." Bon d v. United States, 572 U.S. 844, 858
(2014). Thus , federal interference with state law enforcement "is peculiarly inconsistent with
our federal framework." Cameron v. Johnson , 390 U.S. 611, 618 (1968); see also Printz v. United
__________________________________________________

The Honorable Jim Jordan, et al.
March 23, 2023
Page 4 of 5

States, 521 U.S. 898, 931 n.15 (1997) (Tenth Amendment limits federal power over local law
enforcement). Invoking these principles of comity, eguity, and federalism, the Supreme Court
held, in Younger v. Harris, that federal courts may not interfere in pending state criminal
prosecutions absent extraordinary circumstances. 401 U.S. 37 (1971). This holding reflects a
"continuance of the belief that the National Government will fare best if the States and their
institutions are left free to perform their separate functions in their separate ways." Id. at 44.
Against this history, it is clear that Congress cannot have any legitimate legislative task relating
to the oversight of local prosecutors enforcing state law. To preserve the Constitution's
federalist principles, the District Attorney is duty bound by his constitutional oath to New
York's sovereign interest in the exercise of police powers reserved to the States under the
Tenth Amendment.




Novara

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4. burn.....
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 11:24 AM
Mar 2023

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Paraphrased:

You're only bugging us now because the orange criminal told you to. You're weak and worthless and are acting on his behalf because you have no spines of your own. There is no legitimate legislative oversight purpose, but if you assholes wanna talk about it, we're open for business, motherfuckers. Why don't you come here and tell us exactly how this is legislative business, you assholes? We're waiting.


I love them turning the tables on these assholes. No, we won't be subject to your whims, but you surely can come here to explain yourselves.

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
7. I would have liked to read the phrase, "your actions are an attempt to obstruct justice"
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 01:11 PM
Mar 2023

because that is what it is. repubs are such cowards that a hint of that would send them running, no matter how compromised they are.

BumRushDaShow

(169,882 posts)
10. They basically say it in this section of the letter in a more legalistic manner
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 03:34 PM
Mar 2023
Requests Regarding the Exercise of State Police Powers Violate New York's
Sovereignty


The Letter's requests are an unlawful incursion into New York's sovereignty. Congress's
investigative jurisdiction is derived from and limited by its power to legislate concerning
federal matters. See , e.g., Eastland v. U.S. Servicemen's Fund, 421 U.S. 491, 503-05 (197 5);
Barenblatt v. United States, 360 U.S. 109, 111-12 (1959); Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 195-
96 (1880).

The Constitution limits Congress's powers to those specifically enumerated; and the Tenth
Amendment ensures that any unenumerated powers are reserved to the States. New York v.
United States, 505 U.S. 144, 155-56 (1992). It is therefore generally understood that a
Congressional committee may not "inquire into matters which are . . . reserved to the States."

Charles XI. Johnson, et al., House Practice: A Guide to the Rules, Precedents, and Procedures
of the House at 254 (GPO 2017) 8; see also Watkins, 354 U.S. at 187 ( "The power of the
Congress to conduct investigations ... comprehends probes into departments of the Federa l
Go v ernment .... " ) (emphasis added).9

Among the powers reserved to the states, "[p]erhaps the clearest example of traditional state
authority is the punishment of local criminal activity." Bon d v. United States, 572 U.S. 844, 858
(2014). Thus , federal interference with state law enforcement "is peculiarly inconsistent with
our federal framework." Cameron v. Johnson , 390 U.S. 611, 618 (1968); see also Printz v. United
__________________________________________________

The Honorable Jim Jordan, et al.
March 23, 2023
Page 4 of 5

States, 521 U.S. 898, 931 n.15 (1997) (Tenth Amendment limits federal power over local law
enforcement). Invoking these principles of comity, eguity, and federalism, the Supreme Court
held, in Younger v. Harris, that federal courts may not interfere in pending state criminal
prosecutions absent extraordinary circumstances. 401 U.S. 37 (1971). This holding reflects a
"continuance of the belief that the National Government will fare best if the States and their
institutions are left free to perform their separate functions in their separate ways." Id. at 44.
Against this history, it is clear that Congress cannot have any legitimate legislative task relating
to the oversight of local prosecutors enforcing state law. To preserve the Constitution's
federalist principles, the District Attorney is duty bound by his constitutional oath to New
York's sovereign interest in the exercise of police powers reserved to the States under the
Tenth Amendment.

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