Lt. Gov. Jones vows investigation after ATF goes to Adventure Outdoors gun store
Source: 11alive.com
The presence of ATF was observed by several Georgia Republican congressmembers.
Updated: 3:42 PM EDT March 27, 2023
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SMYRNA, Ga. Lt. Gov. Burt Jones vowed an investigation Monday after an apparent visit by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to a Smyrna gun store.
11Alive contacted ATF to confirm the nature of the bureau's presence at Adventure Outdoors, which was posted about by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, but the bureau did not respond to request for comment.
The presence of ATF was observed by fellow Georgia Republican Reps. Barry Loudermilk, Mike Collins and Rich McCormick as well, according to Greene's post.
Lt. Gov. Jones reposted a video of the Congress members speaking to a person wearing an ATF public information officer jacket. He wrote: "Adventure Outdoors is one of the largest and most respected businesses in our state and this appears to be an egregious overreach by Joe Bidens ATF. We will be working to investigate this situation to protect this business and Georgians 2A rights."
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Well, per policy the AFT is not giving any information. I have no clue why this business was being inspected. But some are sure upset that a large and 'respected' business is being seen by the ATF!! stay tuned.
The federal law enforcement agents doing the inspection left as members of Congress began questioning them.
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Funny how Loudermilk felt the need to clarify that the opinionated tone MTG used with the public info officer was not the same as with the inspectors...like that matters.
Let the inspectors do their job.
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@bywillpollock
its an inspection, love. calm down.
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Roy Rolling
(6,933 posts)Obviously somebodys feelings were hurt and support is warranted.😂
Geechie
(865 posts)Because, ya dumb motherfuckers, we sell alcohol. Where can I complain about being raided? Does MTG really not have anything else to do?
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)Greene doesn't actually do any real legislative work. Her job apparently is to create photo ops and manufacture nonexistent issues for the media.
Geechie
(865 posts)someone could be that stupid, and in the spotlight all the time. smh
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)I've always known there were people like Marjorie, but what is shocking and disturbing to me is how many people support and cheer them on. I really didn't believe there were that many gullible, shallow people in the world. AND they're everywhere!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Straw Man
(6,625 posts)They oversee the activities of FFL (Federal Firearms License) holders. That's like screaming "Government overreach!" when a traffic cop asks for your driver's license.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)PatSeg
(47,586 posts)They really aren't qualified for much of anything, so they've turned governing into a game.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)Chrysanthemum
(188 posts)Thanks for that info!
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)they they are protecting a gun store on a day that we had another 6 people killed in yet another school shooting.
ShazzieB
(16,511 posts)An inspection is not a raid, you ginormous douchewagon!
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)It's been like that for forever.
And on a note that might be related to the OP - the below happened last year as a result of issues that became big news here in Philly a year ago -
April 11, 2022, 5:00 AM EDT / Updated April 11, 2022, 6:10 PM EDT
By Joshua Eaton
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For months, agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had been building a case against Norman, Walker and two other suspects. The agents ultimately traced nearly 300 firearms purchased in Georgia from dozens of gun retailers to the suspects after some were found at crime scenes and in the possession of convicted felons in Philadelphia, according to records and interviews with federal law enforcement.
"We know that these guns are being used in crimes," said Eric Degree, the assistant special agent in charge of the ATF office in Philadelphia.
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In an interview with ATF agents at the apartment in Atlanta in 2020, Walker admitted to buying 50 to 60 guns in order to sell them without a dealers license, according to the affidavit a violation of federal law. Norman allegedly admitted to buying more than 100, according to federal records.
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I never knew how open guns was in Georgia, Norman said. The whole process threw me off. You walk in, and then theres a police officer sitting at the front. And they dont check for, you know, ID or carry licenses or if youre a felon or nothing.
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Officials said the ring ran a classic straw-purchasing scheme, in which someone buys a gun for someone else who typically cant legally buy one or doesnt want to leave a paper trail. Between June and December 2020, the Georgia defendants allegedly bought guns almost daily at stores like Academy Sports, Adventure Outdoors and a string of pawn shops, then trafficked them to Pennsylvania, according to the 60-page indictment unsealed last month.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gun-trafficking-ring-georgia-pennsylvania-rcna23686
MayReasonRule
(1,461 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)The gun trafficking from southern states to the north has been dubbed "The Iron Pipeline".
Philadelphia Man Charged With Illegally Trafficking Almost 60 Straw Purchased Guns Into City From South Carolina
June 10, 2022 / 3:41 PM / CBS Philadelphia
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) -- Two men have been charged with illegally trafficking almost 60 guns into Philadelphia from South Carolina. The U.S. Attorney's office announced 41-year-old Terrance Darby, of Philadelphia, and 32-year-old Ontavious Plumer, of South Carolina, were charged by superseding indictment with gun trafficking offenses.
The charges are in relation to their scheme to straw purchase and transport across state lines almost 60 firearms. Darby was also charged with drug trafficking and gun possession stemming from his possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine and fentanyl, and unlawful possession of two firearms in his home in November 2021.
Between November 2020 and February 2021, the defendants conspired with at least four other individuals to illegally straw purchase almost 60 firearms from federally licensed gun shops in South Carolina and then transported the firearms via car to Philadelphia, the superseding indictment states.
Darby would place the order with Plumer, who would then direct co-conspirators to straw purchase firearms and transport them to Darby and his co-conspirator in Philadelphia.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/terrance-darby-ontavious-plumer-philadelphia-illegal-gun-trafficking-charges/
From DOJ regarding that SC case -
Friday, June 10, 2022
For Immediate Release
U.S. Attorney's Office, Eastern District of Pennsylvania
PHILADELPHIA United States Attorney Jennifer Arbittier Williams announced that Terrance Darby, 41, of Philadelphia, PA, and Ontavious Plumer, 32, of Due West, South Carolina, were charged by Superseding Indictment with gun trafficking offenses in connection with their scheme to straw purchase and transport across state lines almost 60 firearms.
Specifically, the defendants were charged with unlicensed dealing and transport of firearms, and conspiracy to engage in unlicensed dealing of firearms and to make false statements to a federally licensed firearms dealer. Darby was also charged with drug trafficking and gun possession stemming from his possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine and fentanyl, and unlawful possession of two firearms in his home in November 2021.
According to the Superseding Indictment, between November 2020 and February 2021, the defendants conspired with at least four other individuals to illegally straw-purchase almost 60 firearms from federally licensed gun shops in South Carolina, then transport these firearms via car into Philadelphia. Darby would allegedly place orders for firearms with Plumer, who would then direct co-conspirators to straw purchase firearms and transport them to Darby and his co-conspirator in Philadelphia.
This Superseding Indictment is the third set of charges brought by this Office in the last two months targeting the illegal trafficking of firearms from southern states into Philadelphia, a large northeastern city, a fact pattern which is known as the iron pipeline. In April 2022, multiple defendants were Indicted in two federal cases involving the unlawful trafficking of approximately 400 firearms up the iron pipeline into the city.
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr/two-men-charged-illegally-trafficking-almost-60-guns-philadelphia-south-carolina
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)May we come aboard?
No.
Too bad.
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)and for the non-LEO ones, they just come back with U.S. Marshals in tow and if they are still refused, then the search warrants get generated and it's tough luck bub.
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)They can board any vessel they want whenever they want in our navigable waters.
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)That is why I said (regulatory) "non-LEO" agencies
The non-LEO civilian agencies need some backup (although my agency did send some folks to Quantico for firearms training years ago and eventually created a whole division that focused on "criminal investigations" ).
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)repukes support law enforcement.
They do, they tell us all the time how they do. You can trust repukes.
reACTIONary
(5,771 posts)... the political performance artists? I guess the ATF gives advance notice of an inspection. So did the adventure gun store rat them out?
I'd notify them that this is indicative of a cover up, and their license is in jepody.
Bayard
(22,149 posts)They were lined up for their photo op and on-the-spot reporting to MTG.
Igel
(35,356 posts)At last check-in, Obama was not his favorite president.
Why?
He lives in Peoria, and often "Phx" is the mailing address residents use. But there was an executive effort to cut down on gun dealer licenses.
Once a decade or so some ATF wonk came through, examined my brother's documention, and pushed on. But in 2010 the ATF investigator said, there's no US city "Phx." What, it's pronounced "fix" ... "fux"? No such US city.
Brother told him to go f**k himself, but stay put. Brother vanished for 15 minutes and returned--and snowed the a-hole. Plopped documents in front of him--and flipped through them.
For 30 years "Phx" was okay by the ATF. Not a question, not a notification. My brother had documentation from the 1970s. The USPS accepted "Phx." Tax returns showed that the IRS accepted "Phx." Passport control from trips abroad--including passports--accepted "Phx." Social Security and Medicare accepted "Phx." If the US government has no clue what "Phx" means, then ATF really needs to make the IRS, HHS, SS get their act together because they're entirely out of line. Brother said this went on for a good 20 minutes.
Granted, the story is biased, but the investigator went away, never came back (as of a few years ago) and my brother continued with "Phx." Sells a few guns per year, buys a few. And is now afraid that the limit between "professional" and "hobby" is being down-graded.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)PIA is the place code for Peoria
f_townsend
(260 posts)that fact won't be highlighted by any of these anti-American GOP gun crazy liars.
ZonkerHarris
(24,254 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(3,336 posts)Aristus
(66,462 posts)says: "You'll be hearing from my lawyer!"