Donald Trump vows to escalate attacks against Alvin Bragg - sources

[mysteryowl]

Source: Guardian/US

Donald Trump has told advisers and associates in recent days that he is prepared to escalate attacks against the Manhattan prosecutor who resurrected the criminal prosecution into his hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels in 2016 now that a grand jury has indicted him.

The former president has vowed to people close to him that he wants to go on the offensive and – in a private moment over the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida that demonstrates his gathering resolve – remarked using more colorful language that it was time to politically “rough ’em up”.

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But the latest charged language reflects Trump’s determination to double down on those attacks as he returns to his time-tested playbook of brawling with prosecutors, especially when faced with legal trouble that he knows he cannot avoid, people close to him said.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/02/donald-trump-escalate-attacks-against-manhattan-da

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I wonder if the Judge will order a GAG order to shut him up?
I hope so!!

He has a leak amongst his "friends".

[cilla4progress]

1. Well he has announced he is making a major speech

on Tuesday night. 😳😂😂

[Aviation Pro]

8. That would be tough if in a reflective moment

The judge says, "Fuck this guy, off to Rikers you go." Speech there, Motherfucker.

[electric_blue68]

11. 🤞🙏🤞🙏🤞 THAT would be SO Wonderful!

One can dream, amirite?! 😁

[Joinfortmill]

40. You are right.

[Irish_Dem]

2. We shall see if the judge only cares about Trump or will protect the rest of us.

The American people have rights too. Not just Trump.

The jury, prosecutors and American people deserve to be safe.

[mysteryowl]

4. Agreed! I hope there is a gag order.

He is soooooo abusive.

[Irish_Dem]

9. I doubt Trump will comply with a gag order.

The judge is going to have to get real and set some clear boundaries.

And be willing to throw Trump in jail.

We are soon going to find out if Trump is the most important person in the US
criminal justice system or if anyone else matters.

[thenelm1]

13. He'd do well in Rikers I'm sure...

Don't think any judge worth his or her salt would put up with his krap for long.

[Irish_Dem]

23. We are soon going to find out if the US judiciary is up to handling Trump.

[Shipwack]

43. Oh, it is very well capable of handling Trump...

The problem is that the American Justice System is designed to protect people like him, not prosecute.

We shall see. I would be very happy to be proven wrong.

[Irish_Dem]

48. By handing Trump I mean can the US justice system protect everyone else, not just Trump.

Is Trump the only one they care about?

Or will the judiciary protect the jury, prosecutors and public.

Trump is threatening riots and violence.

Do the rest of us count or just Trump?

Time will tell.

So far judges are OK with school children being slaughtered with military grade weapons.
It doesn't look good that they will care what Trump does to us either.

[C Moon]

54. +1000

[hadEnuf]

63. I wouldn't totally rely on the judiciary to protect the public. Too infested with MAGATs who will

sit by and grin.

Fight fire with fire. They need to know they are not going to just walk all over everybody.

[Irish_Dem]

66. Yep. Judges support school children being slaughtered in the classroom.

So doubtful they will have the courage to shut Trump up.

[hadEnuf]

64. I wouldn't totally rely on the judiciary to protect the public. Too infested with MAGATs who will

sit by and grin.

fight fire with fire. They need to know they are not going to just walk all over everybody.

[BComplex]

77. He can always bunk with Allen Weisselberg for the last few weeks of

Weisselberg's sentence.

[lark]

61. Exactly!

The judge should tell him he will be thrown in jail if he talks about this, including the planned speech. Criminal tfg does anyway, and Wed. judge has orange assface thrown in jail.

[Irish_Dem]

67. Trump is white, rich, powerful.

Unlikely to go to jail over a gag order.

[lark]

68. True, but I can dream.

[Irish_Dem]

69. We should never, ever stop dreaming.

If we do, the human race is done for.

[Eyeball_Kid]

78. Alternatives:

no direct or indirect social media posts.

no passport.

no public speaking or engagements.

As a condition of release, Trump's first amendment rights will be limited. He'd make a big mistake by defying a judge's direct order.

[Irish_Dem]

80. Quite possible that Trump would not obey these court orders.

He may want to taunt the judge.

[emulatorloo]

21. FWIW This is the same judge who heard the Trump Organization fraud case.

I don’t think he will take kindly to Trump threatening the DA, prosecution team, jury, and law enforcement.

I hope he will put Trump under a gag order. There are a lot of good reasons to. I guess we’ll find out on Tuesday.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Yes but Trump was not threatening to blow up the US then.

So the judge is going to have to step up and show some courage.
We shall see.

[emulatorloo]

25. Point was that he's not in the pocket of MAGA. But agree he needs to step up.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Yes this next step is going to require even more than that.

But I agree, it is a good beginning.

[emulatorloo]

28. Yep. Trump wants his minions to kill Bragg and anyone who gets in the way of his crime spree.

[Irish_Dem]

32. This must be one reason he never faces consequences for his crimes.

He must always threaten and/or bribe everyone connected to the legal action.
Everything then just fizzles.

Death threats intimidate everyone.
And he has threatened the American people with carnage and riots.

If the American judiciary cannot stand up to Trump at long last,
we are sunk as a nation. Mob bosses rule the country.

[thenelm1]

51. Until the actual charges are presented to a court, the charges have...

...been registered and himself arraigned there probably isn't whole a lot the judicial system can do till then to stifle him. Technically the case against him is not in the courts yet. As you said, we'll see.

[Blue Owl]

3. Fat Fuck to Double Down

[bucolic_frolic]

5. a GAG order to shut him up? So the guy who wants to muzzle the press can scream 1A??

yeah, that would be Trump.

[SouthernDem4ever]

6. Isn't this threatening a law enforcement office?

Isn't that punishable?

[Justice matters.]

31. It is punishable. For any of us.

Except for that hair-fuhrer reincarnation (around 1945-1946).

Stealing TS/CSI documents about our nukes & secret satellites, and active intel-collecting agents abroad is also punishable for any of us and quite swiftly.

Except for that hair-furher reincarnation (around 1945-1946). (It's getting late.)

[The Unmitigated Gall]

7. Shithole former guy doesn't have

The balls to swing one punch.

He can’t “rough ‘em up” his way out of a paper bag.

He’s dog-whistling to his crew to come and save his lumpy ass.

His sphincter-mouth is going to run him right up on this judge.

My money’s on the judge.

[judesedit]

30. I agree. Trump's a wuss

[Kablooie]

55. Mob boss tactics.

Always get the little guys to do the dirty work so you appear to have your hands clean.

[lastlib]

10. Bring it, "tough" (former) guy!

There a LOT more people in Bragg's army than yours! You're about to learn the DEFINITION of "roughed up," you trainload of diarrheic whaleshit.

[orangecrush]

16. +1

[LudwigPastorius]

12. He will be unable to stop himself from talking about this and issuing threats.

If there is a gag order (and there absolutely should be) the judge may give Trump a couple of chances before bringing the hammer down.

That's why I'm picking April 12th on my Contempt of Court Bingo card.

[louis-t]

15. I'll pick Friday the 7th.

I'm betting it won't take long for him to fuck up.

[Novara]

18. He can't hold out that long

Attacking the DA is gonna work sooooo well for him.

Pass me the popcorn.

[republianmushroom]

14. I was wrong, Donald is going to continue being stupid.

Get the popcorn

[Joinfortmill]

41. Pass the wine

[underpants]

17. Again out of his league. He thinks PR can fix legal issues. Oh and intimidation

He has crappy lawyers other than the new one Tacopina.
He knows he’s going to lose but thinks he can create a different story.

[Rebl2]

19. Lock Him Up Now!!!

[JohnSJ]

20. The jackass is working hard to be thrown in prision

[Bo Zarts]

22. Probably so ..

A couple of well-publicized hours in the lockup could be worth more to him than I'll ever see in my lifetime. Remember, he is the grifters' grifter.

But I am happy. He is not.

[emulatorloo]

27. You are probably right. That drama queen wants drama for propaganda and for fleecing his

followers out of their last dollars.

[grantcart]

29. Who leaked this?

My guess is that one of his attorneys leaked it to trigger a gag order so he wouldn't have to worry about trying to keep Trump quiet.

[FakeNoose]

34. I hope you're right - it would be awesome if Chump's lawyer leaked it

We already know they have no control over their crazy client.

Getting the gag order would solve a lot of problems for everyone concerned. Fine Chump $50 thousand for the first offense, $100 thou for the 2nd, $500 G's for the third, and on up from there.

[Eyeball_Kid]

58. Intimidation and libel are in Trump's wheelhouse. Those are his main tools.

He'll have to be called into Court for a contempt charge for him to realize that he's not in control of the Criminal Courts.

[Joinfortmill]

42. Think they're that smart?

[moonscape]

47. Either that or John Barron

[grantcart]

53. Barron never goes on background he always goes on the record.

[Ohioboy]

33. Trump won't resist making this a circus

[AverageOldGuy]

35. I'm absolutely certain . . .

. . . Alvin Bragg is and will continue to sleep soundly.

Meanwhile, all 36,000 of NYC's finest are ready to thump heads.

[Prairie_Seagull]

36. The gag order (one more thing to appeal) needs to extend to his lawyers and the rest of his crime

family. To truly minimize damage he can do, put him behind bars and give him a fast trial imo. As much as I would love to see the corpulent fucker quiet, I think if it were done, It may be in stages. First tfg, When the lawyers do what lawyers do then, gag the lawyers. When the family members pick up the bull horn. Then gag the family members. See where I am going with this?

Bragg has a conundrum. I don't know if there is such a thing as a blanket gag order. The question would be. Could he tfg attain what it wants through intermediaries, if so...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

37. The judge needs to impose a gag order

Link to tweet

[LiberalLovinLug]

74. A gag order is needed, but how would a judge enforce it?

Trump would scoff at that order, and probably dedicate a special extra-vindictive all caps response.

What's the judge going to do? Duct tape his mouth? Even fining him for breaking it would mean nothing as he'd easily rally more than enough funds to pay for any fines.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

75. The judge would enforce with with contempt of court order which could include jailing TFG

[LiberalLovinLug]

76. Well I didn't add the jailing option because I don't think a judge would ever do that

I doubt there are any plans to jail him at all, let alone pre-trial. There is still a "what's best for the country" attitude out there amongst those who call themselves "moderate".

And what's to stop him from tweeting from jail? Take away his phone? Then he can just relay to another sycophant to do it for him from the prison phone, or through a visitor.

At any rate, this is kind of a moot point. Because even if they managed to stop him personally from tweeting, or even relaying his tweet material to others, there are enough MAGAts around to spew their manufactured outrage for him, which is more than enough garbage out there.

[Eyeball_Kid]

79. Defiance of a Court order directly from a judge is not a good idea.

The judge will have to decide who is in control of the process, he or Trump. If Trump defies successfully, then we all will know that Trump is in charge of the Court proceedings. And that won't happen because then, the nation and the world will watch in real time the utter failure of the "Rule of Law." First, the judge will have to openly warn Trump that defiance of his conditions of release WILL RESULT in a Contempt of Court charge WITH incarceration. And the judge will also have to warn Trump's attorneys that any incitement of violence from THEM will also be met with disciplinary action.

And lastly, any attempt to incite violence from MTG will mean.... laughter.

[LiberalLovinLug]

81. But pretty well all of this has been tried already. (Including MTG laughing.)

He's already gotten away with 10x what you or I would have. Stealing top secret documents is such an easy prosecution.....IF they wanted to expedite it. They don't need any more evidence. But I digress.

There is still seemingly a hesitation about jailing a former President. I don't think that any jail time will even be considered until AFTER a trial at the very least...and even then I personally do not believe he will spend one day in jail. But certainly not before the trial. That historic event...if it happens...will be saved for after a conviction for one of the more serious cases later on perhaps.

No, they will hum and haw while he goes on violent rants, either from himself of through his proxies. He has proven already he is above the law. At least way above you or I

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

38. I have a feeling Tuesday's judge

Will teach this worthless pile of trash a much-needed lesson, in the form of a new definition of MAGA:

Menacing
Aloud =
Gag
Applied

So this pusillanimous bag of hair better sit down and shut up before he's made to do it in a way he won't recover from.

[niyad]

65. Welcome to our DU family.

[Joinfortmill]

39. Classic narcissist. He's an embarrassment to our country. Put the bastard in jail.

[RockRaven]

45. Regarding gag orders, the judge has got to realize that it will very quickly be tested/violated

so hopefully they will have mentally prepared themselves to deal with that extra level of shit-show.

A gag order will not stop TFG. He cannot help himself.

[Marcuse]

46. Will no one rid me of these meddlesome judges, prosecutors and witnesses?

[sakabatou]

49. Even if, or when, the judge orders a gag order, Trump can NEVER shut up.

[Martin68]

50. At what point does a judge step in and sanction threats against a prosecutor?

[crickets]

52. If we're lucky, this will be discussed on Tuesday.

I do hope the judge takes no nonsense on any of this. It's ridiculous and it needs to stop. If the only way to stop him is a gag order and threat of jail, and then throwing him in jail (because he won't keep his mouth shut) them I'm all for it. Enough. WAY past enough.

[sarcasmo]

56. Judge Merchan must issue a Gag order on Tuesday. Violate the Gag order and

go directly to jail.

[Stuart G]

57. K & R. Stupid is still "Stupid." ...Trump still thinks he can get away with..."ANYTHING"

IT IS ILLEGAL TO INTIMADATE A PROSECUTOR.

AIN'T IT?................................

[Novara]

60. Yes it is. It's a felony

Threatening a judge (because you know he will) is also obstruction of justice.

Wikipedia has more. Scroll down to Judges and prosecutors

[RocRizzo55]

59. He shall hang himself

By his own petard.

[Kennah]

70. Sure, ok, Bat Man

[republianmushroom]

71. Should read, Donald continues his stupidity.

Heck, he is getting away with it. Anybody else would have been before a judge and sitting in jail for it.

Now tell me NO person is above the law.

[Novara]

72. 'cuz that'll REALLY help his case

He's a fucking moron and doesn't understand that there's a massive power balance in felony trials and he's at the wrong end of that imbalance.

I can't wait for the charges to pile on, such as obstruction of justice, intimidation of the judge and the DA, witness tampering, etc.

So far he's only seen the inside of a courthouse for civil trials. Criminal trials are a lot different but he won't realize it until he's hit with more charges for acting like a bully.

[Mysterian]

73. Oh good!

This will play well at his sentencing!