Trump to be charged Tuesday with 34 felony counts, but spared handcuffs and mug shot
Source: Yahoo/Isikoff
Donald Trump will be placed under arrest on Tuesday and informed that he has been charged with 34 felony counts for falsification of business records, according to a source who has been briefed on the procedures for the arraignment of the former president.
A New York City Police arrest report summarizing the charges against Trump will then be prepared and entered into the court system before he is led into a courtroom to be formally arraigned on the charges, none of which are misdemeanors.
But, the source said, Trump will not be put in handcuffs, placed in a jail cell or subjected to a mug shot typical procedures even for white collar defendants until a judge has weighed in on pretrial conditions. New York District Attorney Alvin Braggs office, which has been consulting with the Secret Service and New York City court officials, concluded that there was no reason to subject the former president to handcuffs or a mug shot.
The stated reason for handcuffing defendants is on the grounds that the suspect might be a flight risk or a threat to the district attorney or court personnel, neither of which were judged to be relevant to the handling of a former president protected at all times by a phalanx of Secret Service agents.
Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html
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Marianne W
(22 posts)Had a frame ready.
COL Mustard
(5,921 posts)But I wouldn't use that in the catbox!
By the way, welcome to DU!
Marianne W
(22 posts)!
NBachers
(17,136 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,146 posts)I did too. I even have one of those toilet lights for backlighting when I lower the "frame" to sit on it.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,553 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)He was so wanting a mug shot for fundraising.
And all the merchandise vendors were so wanting a mug shot for sales.
Tough.
crickets
(25,983 posts)You and all the other smarties who thought of it -- this just hadn't occurred to me, duh. I am so glad he can't sell more tacky t-shirts and other crap with his lousy face on it. It's worth forgoing the mugshot to deprive him of the whining and the grift. YAY!
sheshe2
(83,892 posts)Ooops, there goes the grift... selling the tee shirts he wanted to print up with his mug shot.
A photo of him in cuffs would have too much propaganda value. Save it for the espionage trial.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Fingerprint and mug shot. PERIOD
He is no better and not worse than anyone else -- should have the EXACT same treatment!
Rural_Progressive
(1,107 posts)and until the right wing of this country gets over its fascination with authority figures he's not going to be treated the EXACT same way even if he should be treated more harshly given the actually damage and death he is responsible for causing.
The Grand Illuminist
(1,336 posts)Even if he is guilty, he will still live in comfort while all the other inmates will have to deal with the beatings, killings, and rapings.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)A mug shot is for identification purposes. People have no trouble identifying Trump.
bluestarone
(17,030 posts)He WOULD make money off it. This i really believe!
sueh
(1,826 posts)yet it wouldn't surprise me if he sold merchandise with fake mug shots.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I guess they don't need it as he is easily identified.
the handcuffs he should have though. There was that rumor of him attacking people in a limo, wasn't there?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Shoots down a big talking point of the magats right there.
FBaggins
(26,757 posts)The talking point is that it's a single misdemeanor (30+ times over) that has been falsely inflated to a felony by attaching it to a crime that the NY DA can't charge and the feds chose not to.
If true - that would show up as 30+ felonies.
Indeed - there probably can't be any misdemeanors because there's a two-year statute of limitations on those.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)But arrangements and arraignments that reduce litigation and reduce delay by litigation are good things.
FBaggins
(26,757 posts)Pretty close anyway.
34 essentially identical counts of the same charge - all of which would be misdemeanors that would be outside of the statute of limitations were it not for "with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime"
The indictment doesn't seem to expand on that, but it's almost certainly either campaign finance related (which will be tough to get past the argument that it's a federal crime that DOJ has declined to prosecute) or the intent to hide the dirty laundry from the electorate (which will be hard to prove over alternative explanations like avoiding his wife finding out or hurting his business).
In short - those Democratic analysts who said that the NY charges are likely the weakest of the possible sources of indictments - where probably correct. But the case will probably play out over many months and at least have an impact on the nomination process.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)... and I think there will be convictions in other cases of his.
I read that under NY law there doesn't have to be proof of the other crime, just proof of intent to conceal it (defraud).
"Many months" ... I heard that his next court appearance is ... wait for it ... you will have to anyway ... December.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)I think there should be clear law laid down that being President or president suspends the clock on statute of limitation rather than lets it run out.
If you can't indict a sitting president, bogus theory anyway, but if you can't indict while sitting, then you must suspend the clock. The Presidency is not a license to escape prosecution, ... if truly nobody is above the law.
You can't have it both ways.
dweller
(23,661 posts)The $$ mug shot
😀
good
✌🏻
kairos12
(12,871 posts)His "white glove" concierge service is an example.
ImNotGod
(134 posts)now isn't that special
Richard D
(8,763 posts). . . print-on-demand businesses are weeping.
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)Already it starts.
AllaN01Bear
(18,384 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,412 posts)It seems like a donation might have some bearing on the upcoming trial involving E. Jean Carroll.
screamcheese
(76 posts)I read that the State of New York requires a DNA swab for their database upon arraignment. I wondered about the E. Jean Caroll case too. She claims to have a sample of his jizz on the dress she wore when he raped her. He has refused to provide DNA for comparison in this case . . .
Warpy
(111,338 posts)and the sooner he's processed out, arraigned, and back to Bedbugminster (or wherever), the better for people who live and work in NYC.
It's not like the cops don't know what he looks like.
chowmama
(413 posts)As long as we get fingerprints and DNA.
We'll get the mug shot on the next one.
Joinfortmill
(14,456 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,473 posts)are subject to handcuffs, mugshots, and perp walks?
Got it.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,553 posts)Hope22
(1,859 posts)I can hear him saying I didnt see any handcuffs, what mug shot?. They didnt even hit my head on the car door!
TeamProg
(6,222 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)They can toss him in a holding cell for a couple hours, cant they? They dont even have to take him to Rikers. Just Lock Him Up!
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...that they'll be no mug shot. That would be one more reason to have that face everywhere.
ffr
(22,671 posts)some. Mostly those without connections who are not white.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)I read this on another site and it made me LOL.
"I never thought Id say this, but I owe the GOP an apology. Thoughts and prayers do work."
D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)Maybe we'll get a mugshot in one of those.
LudwigPastorius
(9,167 posts)Bummer
We, as a society, need to rethink the deference we hold for former occupants of the White House.
There's a good line in Band of Brothers in which Major Winters says, "We salute the rank, not the man".
When you are done, and out, you're just another citizen. This must apply to the office of the president as well.
malthaussen
(17,216 posts)I'll accept that he's not a flight risk, since he's a damned coward.
-- Mal
C Moon
(12,221 posts)nilram
(2,893 posts)ShazzieB
(16,510 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 5, 2023, 04:00 AM - Edit history (1)
I didn't think about the grifting possibilities, though, so I guess this is for the best. Damnit.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,553 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,111 posts)concluded that there was no reason to subject the former white rich president to handcuffs or a mug shot.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Recognizance?
For 34 felonies?
We will know how much privilege is granted.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)In their demented inane efforts to get jollies by causing pain to others?
They think we have a horrible border crisis with Mexico, meanwhile where is the video proof on the daily of this from actual journalists with integrity still intact? (still a thing?)
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)in charge of NY's mental health court prior to his current position per Adam Kaufman, former DA in Manhattan.