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BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:35 AM Apr 2023

Sutherland Springs victims say they've reached $144.5M settlement with DOJ

Last edited Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — The victims of the 2017 mass shooting at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, in which 26 were killed, have reached a "tentative agreement" with the Justice Department to settle a case against the federal government for $144.5 million. If the settlement is finalized, it will likely end a yearslong legal battle over a federal judge's ruling that the U.S. government bears some responsibility for the attack because it failed to submit the shooter's criminal history into a database that would have prevented him from purchasing firearms.

In a statement on Wednesday morning, the Justice Department said that it had reached “an agreement in principle” that “would resolve the pending appeals." The agreement won't be finalized, according to the agency, until the plaintiffs' secure necessary court approvals. The court, the Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit in this instance, is required to "approve some aspects of the settlement."

“No words or amount of money can diminish the immense tragedy of the mass shooting in Sutherland Springs,” Associate Attorney General Vanita Gupta said in a statement. “Today’s announcement brings the litigation to a close, ending a painful chapter for the victims of this unthinkable crime.”

Jamal Alsaffar, the lead trial attorney for the victims, called the Sutherland Springs families heroes and said "the country owes them a debt of gratitude" for pursuing their lawsuit, even as it forced them to relive the traumatic shooting. The legal episode is not yet over for the families, however, despite the "pain and loss" they have endured, he said.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sutherland-springs-victims-say-reached-1445-million-settlement-doj-rcna78245



What might be a "hiccup" here is if DOJ needs those funds to be appropriated by Congress and the gun humping batshit crazy House refuses or delays providing those funds (like what was done over a decade ago thanks to dumb fuck Tom Coburn with the Pigsford II settlement agreed to/signed off by the Dept. of Agriculture).

Article updated.

Original article -

WASHINGTON — The victims of the 2017 mass shooting at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, in which 26 were killed, said they have reached a "tentative agreement" with the Justice Department to settle a case against the federal government for $144.5 million.

The agreement has to be approved by Attorney General Merrick Garland. If he signs off, it would end a yearslong legal battle over a federal judge's ruling that the U.S. government bears some responsibility for the attack because it failed to submit the shooter's criminal history into a database that would have prevented him from purchasing firearms.

Jamal Alsaffar, the lead trial attorney for the victims, called the Sutherland Springs families heroes and said "the country owes them a debt of gratitude" for pursuing their lawsuit, even as it forced them to relive the traumatic shooting. The legal episode is not yet over for the families, however, despite the "pain and loss" they have endured, he said.

"These families fought for justice, endured and won two trials against the federal government and made this country safer as a result. But the settlement is not final," Alsaffar said. "Attorney General Garland’s office still must approve it, and we urge his Justice Department to act quickly to bring some closure to these families. It’s the least they deserve." The Justice Department did not respond to requests for comment.
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Sutherland Springs victims say they've reached $144.5M settlement with DOJ (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 OP
I don't remember this shooting JI7 Apr 2023 #1
I know. It's pretty bad BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #5
I didn't remember it either. 70sEraVet Apr 2023 #6
I don't remember this one either. 26 killed, wow. OverBurn Apr 2023 #10
No amount of money will bring them back or reduce the pain bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #2
Including the lawyer's cut? Rocknation Apr 2023 #8
The courts are becoming a viable tool to bring some AndyS Apr 2023 #3
There is a sad disconnect edhopper Apr 2023 #4
The disconnect is also that taxpayers have to pay for these tragedies when it's the gun Lonestarblue Apr 2023 #9
This is also true edhopper Apr 2023 #13
How many sheriffs in TX would refuse to enforce rules related to the database? Probatim Apr 2023 #7
Not the way it works. former9thward Apr 2023 #11
Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated. Probatim Apr 2023 #12

JI7

(89,262 posts)
1. I don't remember this shooting
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 10:42 AM
Apr 2023

Is it becsuse we have so many of them ?

It's happened a few times recently where I will read something that refers to a shooting which I can't remember.

bucolic_frolic

(43,258 posts)
2. No amount of money will bring them back or reduce the pain
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 11:02 AM
Apr 2023

but about $5.5 million per doesn't seem an unreasonable amount. Loss of life, income, pain, suffering, endless suffering for family survivors ....

Rocknation

(44,577 posts)
8. Including the lawyer's cut?
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 01:15 PM
Apr 2023

That can range to thirty-three to fifty percent. An average of forty-one percent would put it closer to $3.25M per person.


Rocknation

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
3. The courts are becoming a viable tool to bring some
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 11:08 AM
Apr 2023

small justice in gun tragedies.

Thank you Sandy Hook Families for your 10 year effort to find a hole in the PLCAA.

edhopper

(33,606 posts)
4. There is a sad disconnect
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 11:16 AM
Apr 2023

that the Government has some accountability here, while the GOP is trying to end any of these safeguards.

Lonestarblue

(10,053 posts)
9. The disconnect is also that taxpayers have to pay for these tragedies when it's the gun
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 02:40 PM
Apr 2023

manufacturers and NRA that should be paying.

Probatim

(2,540 posts)
7. How many sheriffs in TX would refuse to enforce rules related to the database?
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 12:39 PM
Apr 2023

Even if they put the information in there, the hucklebucks might have let it pass anyway.

former9thward

(32,068 posts)
11. Not the way it works.
Wed Apr 5, 2023, 05:56 PM
Apr 2023

And the sheriffs have nothing to do with it. If the information had been put in the database by the federal government the gun dealer would have gotten a "no sale" order. The shooter would have been denied the guns. If the dealer had sold the guns despite the denial they would have lost their license and be subject to criminal charges. No one is going to blow their license over a sale.

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