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tonekat

(2,492 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 04:51 PM Apr 2023

New Batch of Classified Documents Appear on Social Media Sites

Last edited Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: New York Times

Secret documents that appear to detail American national security secrets on Ukraine, the Middle East and China have surfaced online.

WASHINGTON — A new batch of classified documents that appear to detail American national security secrets from Ukraine to the Middle East to China surfaced on social media sites on Friday, alarming the Pentagon and adding turmoil to a situation that seemed to have caught the Biden administration off guard.

The scale of the leak — analysts say more than 100 documents may have been obtained — along with the sensitivity of the documents themselves, could be hugely damaging, officials said. A senior intelligence officials called the leak “a nightmare for the Five Eyes,” in a reference to the United States, Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, the so-called Five Eyes nations that broadly share intelligence.

The latest documents were found on Twitter and other sites on Friday, a day after senior Biden administration officials said they were investigating a potential leak of classified Ukrainian war plans, include an assessment of Ukraine’s air defense capabilities. One slide, dated Feb. 23, is labeled “Secret/NoForn,” meaning it was not meant to be shared with foreign countries.

[SNIP] For compliance with copyright rules.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/us/politics/classified-documents-leak.html



Classified documents being leaked? Gee, who had classified documents in their possession and fished for certain documents? Sure has the stench of TFG all over it.
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New Batch of Classified Documents Appear on Social Media Sites (Original Post) tonekat Apr 2023 OP
Oh, ffs Damn. ?"Individual #1" electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #1
You are so right. He had them scanned into a computer infullview Apr 2023 #2
Well, except that the battle plans for the Ukraine offensive Warpy Apr 2023 #12
Ukraine officials are claiming the plans are fake and likely created by Russia to delay Bev54 Apr 2023 #19
Rasputitsa has persisted, delaying any action Warpy Apr 2023 #24
This is silly. former9thward Apr 2023 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author former9thward Apr 2023 #30
Maybe not. Eko Apr 2023 #23
When were they dated? MichMan Apr 2023 #3
This has to be someone currently in a government position Demanchor Apr 2023 #9
But these documents re Ukraine moonscape Apr 2023 #4
So they're either leaks, or fakes bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #11
Ukraine says they are fake and that they think Russia used a previous format to make up new Bev54 Apr 2023 #20
+1 bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #21
time to have a very serious talk with trump purr-rat beauty Apr 2023 #5
He would not have documents dated February 2023. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #6
I would bet a Dump loving employee still in the government. roamer65 Apr 2023 #7
That's a near certainty! Wuddles440 Apr 2023 #22
MAGAts need to be found and expelled from our intelligence agencies UpInArms Apr 2023 #8
yep nt orleans Apr 2023 #27
Trump wouldnt have THESE docs; they're recent. But SOMEONE needs to figure this shit out oldsoftie Apr 2023 #10
There are still some Trump people in positions. underpants Apr 2023 #13
As someone who works in the Pentagon..... COL Mustard Apr 2023 #14
Could it be deRien Apr 2023 #15
One of 45 time bombs, booby traps and moles hidden in every corner and crevice. Zilli Apr 2023 #16
Agree, likely trying to distract from the Con's news cycles onetexan Apr 2023 #26
Could the chinese balloon have been gathering this sort of communication as it slowly crossed the US KewlKat Apr 2023 #17
Secret/NOFORN BidenRocks Apr 2023 #18
What about shutting down Twitter? Let elmo use his superior skills in whatever... littlemissmartypants Apr 2023 #25
leak maliaSmith Apr 2023 #28

infullview

(1,118 posts)
2. You are so right. He had them scanned into a computer
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 04:58 PM
Apr 2023

And there were at least 50 empty folders marked top secret. Hmmmm

Warpy

(114,525 posts)
12. Well, except that the battle plans for the Ukraine offensive
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:44 PM
Apr 2023

that everybody seems to think will happen in 2-3 weeks would not have been in any file TFG stole, sold, scanned, flushed, or ate.

I don't know if this is information or disinformation, brilliant hacking or "left a disinfo loaded laptop in a diner." We don't know and we won't know until the Ukrainians make their move.

I know what moves I'd make, but the Ukrainians have always surprised me.

Bev54

(13,365 posts)
19. Ukraine officials are claiming the plans are fake and likely created by Russia to delay
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 06:30 PM
Apr 2023

the West's help. I have no idea whether that is true or not but one of the statements quoted in Kyiv Independent was "The five weeks old documents haven’t revealed details of when, how, or where Ukraine plans to launch its counteroffensive."

Warpy

(114,525 posts)
24. Rasputitsa has persisted, delaying any action
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 08:53 PM
Apr 2023

thanks to a huge snowstorm in eastern Ukraine and southwestern Russia. Both sides are bogged down.

I'd be more inclined to think any fakery was created by Ukraine, they've played rope-a-dope with Russia before and Russia doesn't seem to have gotten any smarter. Of course, even if the plans were true, the Ukraine government would just give everybody a wink and a "What do YOU think?" so it wouldn't really matter.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
29. This is silly.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 10:32 PM
Apr 2023

Russia doesn't need documents to know when Ukraine will have an offensive. They have the same spy satellites we have. They can see troop movements and war materiel movements. It can't be hidden.

Response to Bev54 (Reply #19)

Eko

(9,888 posts)
23. Maybe not.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 07:00 PM
Apr 2023

"In March and April 2021, the Russian Armed Forces began massing thousands of personnel and military equipment near Russia's border with Ukraine and in Crimea," Biden became president Jan 20, 2021. Its quite possible that our intelligence had the information that this was going to happen 3 months earlier and even earlier than that. So while your argument without a doubt has merit there can be another explanation. Or not and you are correcto lol.
Eko.

MichMan

(16,931 posts)
3. When were they dated?
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:02 PM
Apr 2023

There was one reference to Feb. 23. This year? They are referring to the current war in Ukraine in the article, so they clearly would have been within the last year.

How would Trump have had any classified documents that weren't created until after he was out of office ? Doesn't make any sense.

bucolic_frolic

(54,633 posts)
11. So they're either leaks, or fakes
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:29 PM
Apr 2023

and TDFG may, or may not, be involved. Is the Deep State involved?

Bev54

(13,365 posts)
20. Ukraine says they are fake and that they think Russia used a previous format to make up new
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 06:36 PM
Apr 2023

information. Reading between the lines, I am wondering if what they are saying is that perhaps Russia had obtained other older documents and have used the format to make up bullshit to cause chaos. That could well mean they received some old documents from someone (TRUMP).

purr-rat beauty

(1,145 posts)
5. time to have a very serious talk with trump
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:06 PM
Apr 2023

it is 1 level of his blackmail

probably released by a foreign entity he gave access to

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
10. Trump wouldnt have THESE docs; they're recent. But SOMEONE needs to figure this shit out
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:27 PM
Apr 2023

Hopefully its a "purposeful" leak; to get the Russians to prepare incorrectly.

underpants

(195,749 posts)
13. There are still some Trump people in positions.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:46 PM
Apr 2023

I heard this this morning and the first thing that popped in my head was - does this help Putin? Who could get these ?

COL Mustard

(8,087 posts)
14. As someone who works in the Pentagon.....
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:51 PM
Apr 2023

It seems that we appear to have a problem with how people handle classified. I'll wait for further information on this, but it ain't good.

Zilli

(286 posts)
16. One of 45 time bombs, booby traps and moles hidden in every corner and crevice.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:58 PM
Apr 2023

45's strategic destruction of the security of our nation and our entire way of life. The 45 assets inside our government will do exactly what Patel said would be done. Publish our countries secrets hoping to do harm cause chaos and end democracy. I really hope I'm overreacting and . . . .

KewlKat

(5,808 posts)
17. Could the chinese balloon have been gathering this sort of communication as it slowly crossed the US
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:59 PM
Apr 2023

over certain military locations? Maybe released the data themselves, as it transmitted the information it collected back to Beijing in real time? Or maybe they gave it to puttie to release?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/china-spy-balloon-collected-intelligence-us-military-bases-rcna77155

BidenRocks

(3,028 posts)
18. Secret/NOFORN
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 06:02 PM
Apr 2023

I was an avionics tech in the Marines, 73 - 78.
During specialized training the instructor and me were locked in a safe.
The secret/noforn material was so old the enemy already knew it.
Now Crypto clearances rely on daily changes to codes and modes.
Let us now if this happened.
I will not feed the trolls.

littlemissmartypants

(32,806 posts)
25. What about shutting down Twitter? Let elmo use his superior skills in whatever...
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:32 PM
Apr 2023

He can suss out the evildoers with his super security team.




Except for the part about shutting down Twitter. Maybe a little time in the TimeOut chair?

maliaSmith

(186 posts)
28. leak
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 04:09 PM
Apr 2023

I wonder if this information is part of what
Trump stole and put on a thumb drive to sell??

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