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Omaha Steve

(99,728 posts)
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 09:22 PM Apr 2023

Arizona court upholds clergy privilege in child abuse case

Source: AP

By MICHAEL REZENDES and JASON DEAREN 2 hours ago

The Arizona Supreme Court has ruled that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can refuse to answer questions or turn over documents under a state law that exempts religious officials from having to report child sex abuse if they learn of the crime during a confessional setting.

The ruling was issued April 7 but not released to the public until Tuesday. A lawsuit filed by child sex abuse victims accuses the church, widely known as the Mormon church, two of its bishops, and other church members of conspiracy and negligence in not reporting church member Paul Adams for abusing his older daughter as early as 2010. This negligence, the lawsuit argues, allowed Adams to continuing abusing the girl for as many as seven years, a time in which he also abused the girl’s infant sister.

Lynne Cadigan, an attorney for the Adams children who filed the lawsuit, criticized the court’s ruling.

“Unfortunately, this ruling expands the clergy privilege beyond what the legislature intended by allowing churches to conceal crimes against children,” she said.



Read more: https://apnews.com/article/mormon-church-child-sex-abuse-e02ae4470a5a53cbeb9aa146ff2762ac

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Arizona court upholds clergy privilege in child abuse case (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2023 OP
Yeah, let's give these dangerous perverts a free pass Diamond_Dog Apr 2023 #1
Criminy. So a State Supreme Court is allowing a church to protect pedophiles. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #2
And MTG says it's the "Democrats" who are peophiles? kimbutgar Apr 2023 #5
Just what Rebl2 Apr 2023 #7
Here you go not fooled Apr 2023 #3
Mormons are for Mormons.(Only) czarjak Apr 2023 #4
Church of the Present-Day Pedos more like. TheBlackAdder Apr 2023 #6
That describes all religions. dchill Apr 2023 #9
Delusional Depravity Defines Religion MayReasonRule Apr 2023 #14
What "describes all religions"? whathehell Apr 2023 #16
Do you really need it spelled out? ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #21
I'm afraid so, given all the SECULAR institutions whathehell Apr 2023 #22
Whataboutism on display.. Permanut Apr 2023 #23
Inconvenient facts on display whathehell Apr 2023 #24
Wonder wtf kind of justice victims past, present & future could ever receive if say this 2live is 2fly Apr 2023 #8
The argument isn't just about confession of past deeds, but allowing them to continue because 2live is 2fly Apr 2023 #12
The Mormons have "confessionals?" Grins Apr 2023 #10
They don't have confessionals.. whathehell Apr 2023 #17
Wouldn't fly in my state raising2moredems Apr 2023 #11
But remember it's Drag Queens who pose a problem not fooled Apr 2023 #13
Religions are immoral and unethical Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #15
'Protect the church over the children.' keithbvadu2 Apr 2023 #18
Churches+ the courts + GOP Are all morally bankrupt. flying_wahini Apr 2023 #19
wow rockfordfile Apr 2023 #20

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
3. Here you go
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 09:39 PM
Apr 2023

[link:https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Supreme_Court|]


As of January 2023, all seven judges on the court were appointed by a Republican governor.


All you need to know. LDS extremely influential in this cesspool. I hope the new Dem governor can change that.



 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
21. Do you really need it spelled out?
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 06:05 PM
Apr 2023

Every religion has demonstrated a willingness to protect pedophiles in their midst, rather than the children raped therein.

Need anything else explained about this one?

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
22. I'm afraid so, given all the SECULAR institutions
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 08:53 PM
Apr 2023

that have done the same?...Penn State with boys?..Michigan State U doctor abusing girls WITH the knowledge of the University President?

Studies showing that religious clergy are NO more likely to abuse children than men in OTHER professions, including teachers who are 100 times MORE likely to abuse than Catholic priests?

https://go2tutors.com/teachers-more-likely-abuse-kids/#:~:text=of%20Ed%2C%20public%20school%20teachers,a%20method%20of%20recruiting%20victims.

https://www.newsweek.com/priests-commit-no-more-abuse-other-males-70625#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16813481940240&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fpriests-commit-no-more-abuse-other-males-70625











Permanut

(5,642 posts)
23. Whataboutism on display..
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 09:05 PM
Apr 2023

Seems that clergy would not conduct, approve of or cover up any of these horrible crimes

2live is 2fly

(336 posts)
8. Wonder wtf kind of justice victims past, present & future could ever receive if say this
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 10:52 PM
Apr 2023

case were to make it to conservative and catholic majority SCOTUS!

2live is 2fly

(336 posts)
12. The argument isn't just about confession of past deeds, but allowing them to continue because
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 11:26 PM
Apr 2023

thats what they're doing.

raising2moredems

(641 posts)
11. Wouldn't fly in my state
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 11:21 PM
Apr 2023

but would not surprise me if the perverts appealed to SCOTUS. But not sure if SCOTUS considers LDS a "religion". Would be an interesting case to watch.
And every article I read that notes how church attendance is dropping makes me feel really good. May I live long enough to see the end of organized religion.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
15. Religions are immoral and unethical
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 09:14 AM
Apr 2023

Why do they need these kinds of legal protections if they were doing the moral and ethical thing.

An outdated institution ruining the lives of millions.

keithbvadu2

(36,920 posts)
18. 'Protect the church over the children.'
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 10:05 AM
Apr 2023

All it takes is a couple of weeks of prayer and 'God has forgiven me.'

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