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Polybius

(21,902 posts)
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 05:18 PM Apr 2023

Chief Justice John Roberts punts on request to investigate Clarence Thomas

Source: CNN

Washington(CNN)Chief Justice John Roberts has declined to directly respond to a congressional request to investigate Justice Clarence Thomas' alleged ethical lapses.

Roberts instead referred the request from Senate Judiciary Chairman Dick Durbin to the Judicial Conference, which serves as the policy-making body of the federal courts.

The Illinois Democrat had penned a letter urging Roberts to investigate Thomas after a ProPublica report that found that Thomas had gone on several luxury trips at the invitation of a GOP megadonor. The trips were not disclosed on Thomas' public financial filings.

Thomas said in a statement that he had not reported the trips because the ethics guidelines in effect at the time had not required such disclosures.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/22/politics/chief-justice-john-roberts-clarence-thomas/index.html

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Chief Justice John Roberts punts on request to investigate Clarence Thomas (Original Post) Polybius Apr 2023 OP
Birds of a feather stick together? Evolve Dammit Apr 2023 #1
I was gonna say Quanto Magnus Apr 2023 #18
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men"? The Shadow knows. (old TV, but applicable)..nt Evolve Dammit Apr 2023 #24
And then Quanto Magnus May 2023 #54
Whose pockets have been generous to the Chief Justice? marble falls Apr 2023 #2
That's the first... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #14
Good question ck4829 Apr 2023 #50
What about the real estate deal? Shouldn't that have been reported, Johnny? mobeau69 Apr 2023 #3
Hard to be certain, despite the reporting on the subject FBaggins Apr 2023 #7
He listed a 1/3 interest on his 2014 disclosure form as a rental property, not a personal residence. pnwmom Apr 2023 #27
Who is paying for Roberts vacations or his mother's house ? ...nt Jarqui Apr 2023 #4
Who's paying Roberts' wife? SunSeeker Apr 2023 #32
Stunning, sure does raise suspicions of what's going on with Roberts now, too bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #5
Unprofessional Chicken Shit. Cha Apr 2023 #6
Truly ck4829 Apr 2023 #49
Of course he does Marthe48 Apr 2023 #8
no matter Layzeebeaver Apr 2023 #9
Unsurprising. (nt) Paladin Apr 2023 #10
Roberts needs to have Thomas Turbineguy Apr 2023 #11
He messed up his own legacy long ago. dchill Apr 2023 #21
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #12
I'd like to know what the law was when he left them out. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #13
Same here .... anciano Apr 2023 #16
Why do you think Dick Durbin is incompetent? ... marble falls Apr 2023 #35
Got any more doubts about Dick Durbin? marble falls Apr 2023 #52
Colour me sooooooo NOT surprised. niyad Apr 2023 #15
More than a little disingenuous, isn't he? madamesilverspurs Apr 2023 #17
what crap! (not the op -- i mean john roberts crap) i googled the judicial conference committee orleans Apr 2023 #19
Good info, thanks! BigmanPigman Apr 2023 #26
Ethics being what they are... dchill Apr 2023 #20
The Substandard Court. ck4829 Apr 2023 #48
Robert's wife is a crook .... Whose surprised? LenaBaby61 Apr 2023 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2023 #25
She has made millions in commissions from companies with cases before her husband's court. NullTuples Apr 2023 #37
this is not surprising republianmushroom Apr 2023 #23
Politicians in robes PSPS Apr 2023 #28
Imagine Johnny's deal if Clearance cashing in like that. czarjak Apr 2023 #29
As Gomer Pyle used to say... surprise, surprise, surprise!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2023 #30
Thomas should not need any 3rd party guidelines to behave ethically. cstanleytech Apr 2023 #31
What investigative powers does the Judicial Conference have? SunSeeker Apr 2023 #33
There is no question left as to the bias exhibited by the SCOTUS SouthernDem4ever Apr 2023 #34
Indeed ck4829 Apr 2023 #47
Isn't Roberts also the presiding officer of the Judicial Conference? NullTuples Apr 2023 #36
Impeach, Impeach, Impeach!!! hydrolastic Apr 2023 #38
Did you learn nothing from the TFG impeachments ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #40
do you understand the mechanics of ... RussBLib Apr 2023 #41
Just send Roberts a subpoena Bluejeans Apr 2023 #39
Yep ck4829 Apr 2023 #46
You'd think a guy who claims the SCOTUS should be seen above Hassler Apr 2023 #42
You'd think a guy who claims the SCOTUS should be seen above Hassler Apr 2023 #43
Right? ck4829 Apr 2023 #45
Weak ck4829 Apr 2023 #44
Just-Us Droid Kid Berwyn Apr 2023 #51
I would say that Justice Roberts' melm00se Apr 2023 #53

Quanto Magnus

(1,347 posts)
18. I was gonna say
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 07:28 PM
Apr 2023

Roberts is probably hiding a few skeletons himself. He doesn't want to open the flood gates

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
24. "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men"? The Shadow knows. (old TV, but applicable)..nt
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 08:21 PM
Apr 2023

Quanto Magnus

(1,347 posts)
54. And then
Tue May 2, 2023, 02:16 PM
May 2023

his wife

$10.3 Million in consulting fees.....


Hmmmmmm.... first skeleton discovered.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
7. Hard to be certain, despite the reporting on the subject
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 05:52 PM
Apr 2023

The rule appears to say that it doesn't have to be reported if it is the sale of a personal residence.

I've seen that reported as "primary residence" - which would not include this sale. But since he was an owner and presumable stayed there occasionally... it might qualify

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
27. He listed a 1/3 interest on his 2014 disclosure form as a rental property, not a personal residence.
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 09:42 PM
Apr 2023

He didn't include any income from it, probably because his mother was living there. But he also didn't report the sale, which happened in 2014 and should have been listed on the disclosure form.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23774093-2014-clarence-thomas-disclosure#document/p5

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
8. Of course he does
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 05:57 PM
Apr 2023

arrogant, lying, cheating, fascist, protecting his arrogant, lying, cheating fascist buddy.

Layzeebeaver

(2,286 posts)
9. no matter
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 05:57 PM
Apr 2023

the SCOTUS will never indulge precedent when it might hurt them.

If it hurts us? no problem...

Turbineguy

(40,076 posts)
11. Roberts needs to have Thomas
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 06:07 PM
Apr 2023

straight up for lunch for a quiet word.

These creeps are messing up his legacy.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
13. I'd like to know what the law was when he left them out.
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 06:27 PM
Apr 2023

That’d be the first thing I’d look at if I were senator Durbin. That’s a very easy thing to look at.

anciano

(2,256 posts)
16. Same here ....
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 07:00 PM
Apr 2023

What exactly were the "ethics guidelines in effect at the time"?

"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." --- Sherlock Holmes



marble falls

(71,932 posts)
35. Why do you think Dick Durbin is incompetent? ...
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:36 AM
Apr 2023

Dick Durbin

durbin.senate.gov

Richard Joseph Durbin is an American lawyer and politician serving as the senior United States senator from Illinois, a seat he has held since 1997. A member of the Democratic Party, Durbin is in his fifth Senate term and has served as the Senate Democratic whip since 2005 and as the Senate majority whip since 2021. He chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, and led the Ketanji Brown Jackson Supreme Court nomination hearings. Durbin was born in East St. Louis, Illinois.

Don't sweat it: Dick Durbin lines his ducks up. You should read up on Dick Durbin.

madamesilverspurs

(16,512 posts)
17. More than a little disingenuous, isn't he?
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 07:05 PM
Apr 2023

Apparently, when Roberts promised to "call balls and strikes" he failed to disclose his white cane . . .


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orleans

(36,919 posts)
19. what crap! (not the op -- i mean john roberts crap) i googled the judicial conference committee
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 08:03 PM
Apr 2023

apparently they meet twice a year -- march & september!



Traditionally the Chief Justice has convened two meetings of the Conference each year, one in September and one in March. The members are required to attend each session unless excused by the Chief Justice, who will then designate a replacement. The Conference generally meets in Washington, D.C.


uscorts.gov

dchill

(42,660 posts)
20. Ethics being what they are...
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 08:04 PM
Apr 2023

"ethics guidelines in effect at the time had not required such disclosures."

Supreme Court, substandard ethics.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
22. Robert's wife is a crook .... Whose surprised?
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 08:13 PM
Apr 2023
Robert's is not going to stop his grift.


Chief Justice Roberts’ Wife Is Latest Supreme Court Spouse To Spark Ethics Concerns.

The wife of Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts is facing scrutiny for potential conflict of interests after a former colleague warned the Justice Department and Congress about her role as a recruiter for law firms, the New York Times reports, the latest ethical issue to face the court after Justice Clarence Thomas’ wife already came under fire for potential conflicts.
Chief Justice John Roberts and wife Jane Sullivan Roberts Supreme Court
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Roberts and his wife Jane Sullivan Roberts arrive at the ... [+]GETTY IMAGES
KEY FACTS
Jane Sullivan Roberts, a legal recruiter, has earned “millions” in commissions for recruiting attorneys for jobs at law firms, which include firms that have cases before the Supreme Court, her former colleague Kendal Price said, according to a letter obtained by the Times.

Price provided records to the federal government showing commissions the justice’s wife earned between 2007 and 2014, and asked for an inquiry into the matter, arguing it should be mandatory for justices to disclose information about their spouses’ work.

Price sued Jane Sullivan Roberts in 2014 after he was fired from her recruiting firm—the suit ended in arbitration a year later, and the attorney who represented Price in his suit against Roberts and her firm, James E. O’Connell, Jr., has not yet responded to a request for comment.

Price did not cite specific cases that are of particular concern to the chief justice’s work, but cited Jane Sullivan Roberts placing Obama-era Interior Secretary Ken Salazar at WilmerHale, a large law firm that has argued more than 125 cases at the high court, as an example, the Times reports.

The chief justice has never recused himself from a case due to his wife and does not disclose her clients or earnings on financial disclosures, according to the Times, only reporting her salary but not commissions—but Price argued that’s misleading, as commissions “depend on cultivating and capitalizing on relationships in order to consummate particular deals.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/01/31/chief-justice-roberts-wife-is-latest-supreme-court-spouse-to-spark-ethics-concerns/?sh=1c348595bb80


Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #22)

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
37. She has made millions in commissions from companies with cases before her husband's court.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 11:04 AM
Apr 2023

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
33. What investigative powers does the Judicial Conference have?
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 05:12 AM
Apr 2023

If they could investigate SCOTUS, why didn't Roberts have the Judicial Conference investigate the Dobbs leak?


SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
34. There is no question left as to the bias exhibited by the SCOTUS
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:07 AM
Apr 2023

They are making decisions based on their likes and dislikes without deference to existing law or precedence. They can't even remove an obvious offender from their ranks.

hydrolastic

(547 posts)
38. Impeach, Impeach, Impeach!!!
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 11:22 AM
Apr 2023

According to a CNN article .... "The House needs only a simple majority to impeach a Supreme Court justice or any federal judge. To convict and then remove the justice or judge, the Senate requires a two-thirds majority."
This means we need to get more Senators to be able to do this. There is no other way apparently to get rid of him. Current political situation makes it impossible to remove him. Maybe if the DOJ would look at Ginni and her role in the insurrection and possibly his role in it. But really it would be way easier to just do whatever it takes to get 2/3 rds of the Senate. Then at the same time we could put term limits and or rotation in place along with more judges. What a Mess!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
40. Did you learn nothing from the TFG impeachments
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 12:22 PM
Apr 2023

The traitor party does not vote against one of their own. They control the House, so impeachment will never even make it to a committee, never mind a floor vote. Even if a miracle happened and they did vote for it, the Senate wouldn't have the votes to convict. A 2/3 vote = 67. Good luck getting 16 members of the traitor party in the senate to turn on another traitor.

The votes aren't there, and they won't be there. Not for a very long time.

Sometimes we have to accept the reality we're dealing with, like how impeachment is an exercise in futility. We're better off focusing on the things we can do.

It sucks, but that's how it is.

RussBLib

(10,635 posts)
41. do you understand the mechanics of ...
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 01:25 PM
Apr 2023

...what it would take to add members to the SCOTUS? I believe that Congress can do it with another "Judiciary Act." I imagine the House could pass it with a simple majority, but not sure about the Senate, if a majority suffices or if a supermajority is needed. Obviously, the president would have to sign it.

I understand the size of the court has changed multiple times in our history, but has not changed since 1869. FDR tried, but failed.

Frankly, considering the ethical lapses we have uncovered, the denial of a SCOTUS pick that Obama should have had, and the hard-right careen of the SCOTUS, it seems we are OVERDUE for an expansion of the SCOTUS. If things turn sour afterward, the next Congress could simply pass another Act to take it back to 9.

Bluejeans

(150 posts)
39. Just send Roberts a subpoena
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 12:06 PM
Apr 2023

There's an easy solution -- just sent Chief Justice Roberts a subpoena.

Hassler

(4,924 posts)
42. You'd think a guy who claims the SCOTUS should be seen above
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 07:12 PM
Apr 2023

Criticism would see this as his chance to regain control of his court. But then Ol Balls and Strikes Roberts is really no better than Crooked Clarence.

Hassler

(4,924 posts)
43. You'd think a guy who claims the SCOTUS should be seen above
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 07:13 PM
Apr 2023

Criticism would see this as his chance to regain control of his court. But then Ol Balls and Strikes Roberts is really no better than Crooked Clarence.

melm00se

(5,161 posts)
53. I would say that Justice Roberts'
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 11:17 AM
Apr 2023

action makes sense for a couple of reasons:

1. it removes the perception (or reality) of coverup for a fellow right winger, justice or whatever.
2. it avoids duplication of effort. The Court has no mechanism to remove a federal judge, only Congress does. If the Court investigates and recommends impeachment, that is lost time as Congress will have to thru its motions.

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