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jgo

(1,021 posts)
Fri May 5, 2023, 11:06 AM May 2023

TurboTax set to pay out $141 million settlement to defrauded tax filers

Source: UPI

Millions of TurboTax users nationwide will soon get a small share of a $141 million settlement announced a year ago in New York as restitution for deceptive practices by the company's owner Intuit.

More than 4 million consumers in all 50 states and the District of Columbia are eligible to receive a portion of the May 2022 settlement that was intended to punish the tax preparation giant for snookering millions of low-income filers into paying for what should have been free tax services.

Intuit was not compelled to admit any wrongdoing as part of the settlement.

Some affected customers will be eligible to pocket as much as $85 in compensation, but most filers will only receive about $30.


Read more: https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023/05/05/intuit-turbotax-settlement/3991683289802/

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TurboTax set to pay out $141 million settlement to defrauded tax filers (Original Post) jgo May 2023 OP
The free filing is never free. rickford66 May 2023 #1
Massive corporate fraud...and who is going to jail?...will happen again and again...no deterrence. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #5
It's been free for me for several years Kaleva May 2023 #11
Intuit was not compelled to admit any wrongdoing - thus it's just a cost of doing business NullTuples May 2023 #2
BFD. Until these criminals start going to prison the fleecing and floggings will continue. OMGWTF May 2023 #3
Exactly. Midnight Writer May 2023 #8
Intuit is crooked Submariner May 2023 #4
In to your...wallet and nothing else matters. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #6
After I finish federal tax, it tries to trick me into filing PA tax Freddie May 2023 #7
Weird. TurboTax MI state tax preparation is free for those who qualify Kaleva May 2023 #12
They do it for free and then charge for actually filing--which is just efiling Bengus81 May 2023 #16
I've never been charged for them to file Kaleva May 2023 #18
A few years back Turdotax was refunding $25. They need my SS# to twodogsbarking May 2023 #9
I'm Glad RobinA May 2023 #10
When you are poor, everything is a scam Johnny2X2X May 2023 #13
If one is poor enough to get the free edition, deductions and breaks aren't a big deal Kaleva May 2023 #15
I used TurboTax, federal & state, for free for years with no hassles Kaleva May 2023 #14
You can't file for free having them do it Bengus81 May 2023 #17
Yes you can. I've used TurboTax for years where they filed for free Kaleva May 2023 #19
I've had them do it for free for many years XorXor May 2023 #20
They always charged me....... Bengus81 May 2023 #21
Do you have SSA-1099, 1099-R or something like those since you're retired? XorXor May 2023 #22
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
5. Massive corporate fraud...and who is going to jail?...will happen again and again...no deterrence.
Fri May 5, 2023, 12:02 PM
May 2023

As planned.

Kaleva

(40,352 posts)
11. It's been free for me for several years
Mon May 8, 2023, 09:50 AM
May 2023

They do try to upsell but I don't need that so I decline

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
2. Intuit was not compelled to admit any wrongdoing - thus it's just a cost of doing business
Fri May 5, 2023, 11:32 AM
May 2023

We pay taxes in part so the government can protect us from dishonest business practices. This would work better if companies actually had some disincentive to continue being dishonest.

Turbo Tax's revenue last year was 12.7 billion USD. This $141 million was already written down as an expense last year. That's all it is, an expense of doing business that they can then use to boost their posted profits & return on investment. They've already moved on.
https://investors.intuit.com/news/news-details/2022/Intuit-Reports-Strong-Full-Year-Results-and-Sets-Fiscal-2023-Guidance/default.aspx

OMGWTF

(5,130 posts)
3. BFD. Until these criminals start going to prison the fleecing and floggings will continue.
Fri May 5, 2023, 11:36 AM
May 2023

Submariner

(13,362 posts)
4. Intuit is crooked
Fri May 5, 2023, 11:39 AM
May 2023

Back in the early '90s, INTUIT would not process my mailed (USPS) Master Card payment due before, or on, the bill due date.

So in 4 out of 5 months, they would tag on a $25 late fee on the bill, and whatever the finance charges would be for that month, for making a "late" payment. Internet banking ended that kind of 'delay the mail' fraud, but we see they defraud with other products too.

Each month had to call and argue to get the false charges reversed. Dropped the card and learned to stay away from INTUIT.

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
7. After I finish federal tax, it tries to trick me into filing PA tax
Fri May 5, 2023, 12:42 PM
May 2023

For a fee, of course, when you can file PA tax on the state site for free.

Bengus81

(10,158 posts)
16. They do it for free and then charge for actually filing--which is just efiling
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:12 AM
May 2023

Then run the ads that it's free,freee,freeeeee.

twodogsbarking

(18,751 posts)
9. A few years back Turdotax was refunding $25. They need my SS# to
Fri May 5, 2023, 01:45 PM
May 2023

verify it was me. I never gave them my SS #. They mined it from the tax return.
I complained but they gave a lame excuse. Couldn't get the $25. Fuck them.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
10. I'm Glad
Mon May 8, 2023, 08:36 AM
May 2023

this issue got some attention. I use a different online tax preparation software that is equally scammy. They try every trick in the book to get more money out of you, including telling you you need a more expensive version about half way through even a fairly simple filing. Extra $30 dollars if you have mutual funds. Then they pull the state filing gambit at the end. I've figured out how to get through with a minimum of add-ons, but it is extra work to file state tax elsewhere. I don't understand why you can't file directly with the IRS for free. If you do it manually there's no charge. By the same logic that you have to pay some third party to online file, shouldn't the IRS charge for the hard copy forms?

Johnny2X2X

(24,187 posts)
13. When you are poor, everything is a scam
Mon May 8, 2023, 09:54 AM
May 2023

And I can tell you this, Turbo Tax was misleading, they tricked people into all kinds of purchases. But so are those H&R Block type places that do your taxes and give you money within 24 hours less the $200 fee.

There are many ways to file your taxes that will all be accepted and are legal. Poor people don't have access to accountants who can get them more money. They hink Turbotax and H&R Block are getting them every possible deduction and break, but they aren't, you're not getting what you pay for with those places.

Kaleva

(40,352 posts)
15. If one is poor enough to get the free edition, deductions and breaks aren't a big deal
Mon May 8, 2023, 10:02 AM
May 2023

as one isn't paying taxes anyways

But I'm on SSDI and don't pay payroll taxes so defections and breaks beyond the standard ones don't apply to me.

Kaleva

(40,352 posts)
14. I used TurboTax, federal & state, for free for years with no hassles
Mon May 8, 2023, 09:55 AM
May 2023

They try to upsell but it's really easy to decline.

Bengus81

(10,158 posts)
17. You can't file for free having them do it
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:19 AM
May 2023

And I think that's the point. They kept claiming it was FREE when it wasn't. I've used them several years and actually like it but the FREE part was always a con and charging $30-50 to do a simple e-file to the IRS and then another fee for e-filing State is ridiculous.

I didn't "upgrade" to anything fancy because we're both retired. There were a couple of years it was over $100.00-$110.00 to do the taxes and have them filed by Turbo Tax. They were less last year but can't remember the charge.

Kaleva

(40,352 posts)
19. Yes you can. I've used TurboTax for years where they filed for free
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:43 AM
May 2023

Then they texted me and emailed me when the federal and state returns were accepted by the IRS and Michigan Department of Treasury.

I've been using TurboTax to do my in-laws taxes too and they have never been charged either.

XorXor

(690 posts)
20. I've had them do it for free for many years
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:51 AM
May 2023

I've only had to pay on years when I did significant amounts of work on 1099. But simple W-2 with a standard deduction has always been free for me.

Bengus81

(10,158 posts)
21. They always charged me.......
Mon May 8, 2023, 05:14 PM
May 2023

I started using them in 2018. The reason was simple,we were both retired and our taxes are simple. I've never had one year where I could file for free. I know it was well over $100 most years to file both returns--seems like the State return was higher for whatever reason.

Last year it was somewhat cheaper only because they are getting competition from everywhere.

XorXor

(690 posts)
22. Do you have SSA-1099, 1099-R or something like those since you're retired?
Mon May 8, 2023, 05:22 PM
May 2023

If so, I wonder if that is why. I only know about those situations because I had to help my parents with their taxes this year.

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