Jury says Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll $5 million for sexual abuse and defamation
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Source: CNBC
A civil jury on Tuesday found former President Donald Trump liable for sexually abusing the writer E. Jean Carroll at a New York department store in the 1990s, and for defaming her last fall when he denied her claim.
The jury of six men and three women also ordered Trump to pay Carroll a total of $5 million in compensatory and punitive damages after deliberating less than three hours in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.
Jurors notably did not find Trump liable for rape, the most serious allegation Carroll made in a lawsuit filed last year. But their verdict that he sexually abused and forcibly touched her without her consent during a chance encounter in the Bergdorf Goodman store substantiated her civil claim of battery. Trial in the case began on April 25.
I filed this lawsuit against Donald Trump to clear my name and to get my life back, Carroll, 79, said in a statement Tuesday. Today, the world finally knows the truth, said Carroll, a former Elle magazine advice columnist and biographer of gonzo journalist Hunter S. Thompson.
Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/09/trump-rape-defamation-trial-jury-gets-instructions-from-judge-.html
Article updated.
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The verdict in the civil trial came after less than three hours of deliberations in U.S. District Court in lower Manhattan. The jury notably did not find Trump liable for rape, as Carroll had alleged.
"I have absolutely no idea who this woman is. This verdict is a disgrace," Trump wrote in a post on his social media site Truth Social. A spokesman for his 2024 Republican presidential campaign said, "This case will be appealed, and we will ultimately win." Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan said, "We are very happy," as she left the courthouse with her client. Carroll did not speak to reporters.
The verdict is the latest legal blow against Trump, who leads early polls for the 2024 GOP nomination. In late March he was indicted by a Manhattan state Supreme Court grand jury on nearly three dozen counts of falsifying business records in connection with a 2016 hush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.
The jury of six men and three women awarded Carroll $5 million in compensatory and punitive damages. The verdict in the civil trial came after less than three hours of deliberations in U.S. District Court in lower Manhattan. The jury did not find Trump liable for rape, as Carroll had also alleged.
"I have absolutely no idea who this woman is. This verdict is a disgrace," Trump wrote in a post on his social media site Truth Social. Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan said, "We are very happy," as she left the courthouse with her client, who did not speak to reporters.
Carroll, 79, claimed in her lawsuit that Trump raped her in a dressing room of the Bergdorf Goodman store in the mid-1990s. Trump cannot be prosecuted for the alleged rape because the statute of limitations for such a crime has long since passed.
The jury awarded Carroll $5 million in compensatory and punitive damages.
The verdict in the civil trial came after less than three hours of deliberations in U.S. District Court in lower Manhattan. The jury did not find Trump liable for rape, as Carroll had also alleged.
The nine-member panel started discussing potential verdicts in the case at 11:50 a.m. ET after Judge Lewis Kaplan gave the panel final instructions and a 10-question verdict form.
The jury awarded Carroll $5 million in compensatory and punitive damages.
The verdict in the civil trial came after less than three hours of deliberation in U.S. District Court in lower Manhattan. The jury did not find Trump liable for rape, as Carroll had alleged.The nine-member panel started discussing potential verdicts in the case at 11:50 a.m. ET after Judge Lewis Kaplan gave the panel final instructions and a 10-question verdict form.
Carroll, 79, alleged in a lawsuit that Trump sexually assaulted her in a dressing room of the Bergdorf Goodman store in the mid-1990s. Trump cannot be prosecuted for the alleged rape because the statute of limitations for such a crime has long since passed.
Original article/headline -
A federal jury in New York on Tuesday found former President Donald Trump liable for sexually abusing and forcibly touching the writer E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s, and of defaming her last fall when he accused her of making up that account.
The verdict in the civil trial came after less than three hours of deliberation in U.S. District Court in lower Manhattan.
The nine-member panel started discussing potential verdicts in the case at 11:50 a.m. ET after Judge Lewis Kaplan gave the panel final instructions and a 10-question verdict form.
FarPoint
(14,766 posts)need a calculator to add up all the fines...
moonshinegnomie
(4,022 posts)damages of 5 mil
barbtries
(31,308 posts)apportioning the damages.
i'm full of glee right now.
however been watching coverage from nbc and cbs and other stations and honestly they try just about every they can think of to give this rapist the benefit of the doubt. they offer up he's the frontrunner for president. blah blah blah
after the hollywood access tape and all the women who came out publicly saying yes that's exactly what he did to me, who could seriously doubt that he's a serial sexual abuser? gawd he's so disgusting
yardwork
(69,364 posts)Chakaconcarne
(2,787 posts)barbtries
(31,308 posts)i was switching back and forth - said 5 mil
Rhiannon12866
(255,570 posts)LudwigPastorius
(14,726 posts)hamsterjill
(17,577 posts)He will use the usual stall techniques all the while screaming about the witch hunt.
LymphocyteLover
(9,848 posts)sabbat hunter
(7,110 posts)if ever, will it take Trump to actually pay the lawsuit?
barbtries
(31,308 posts)if there's any possible way not to. i hope she follows him to the ends of the earth and never gives him a moment's rest for it.
bpj62
(1,067 posts)You just made my day. Better off Dead is one of my favorite 80s movies. Let's hope E Jean Carroll is just like the paper boy and will hound Trump till his dying day.
barbtries
(31,308 posts)just watched it again within the last year or so. we had to make sure my youngest son's gf now wife saw it. lol
she should be a constant unforgettable thorn in his side. or make him 5 million dollars poorer
Probatim
(3,286 posts)I was just telling my wife about the picnic table scene and she'd never seen this movie. Now I find TWO people who've seen it here!
Hilarious.
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dem4decades
(14,061 posts)Kali
(56,829 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Hope she has enormous fun spending it.
Chakaconcarne
(2,787 posts)agingdem
(8,851 posts)I want to hear that deranged sexual deviant bloviate how he was barred from testifying...I have no doubt Kaitlin Collins, a former writer for Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller, will wrap each softball question in a down blanket, prompting him when his malignant psychopathy oozes out...
BigmanPigman
(55,168 posts)sheilahi
(280 posts)No, don't cancel. I want to hear how many times "witch hunt" can be used in one hour.
pandr32
(14,272 posts)If few people tune in CNN might get a clue. Curiosity counts to tRump's advantage, so we must boycott.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,959 posts)pandr32
(14,272 posts)tRump wins, too.
tavernier
(14,443 posts)Im not even interested enough to check into DU that night to hear second hand what happened.
I just cant anymore see anything new or interesting about that big blowhard.
pandr32
(14,272 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)Wish it was 5 billion, but Ill take it
Warpy
(114,616 posts)even though that is what most likely occurred. No rape kit or other forensic evidence, reasonable doubt. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.
Now to assess damages for a lifetime of PTSD and "ick" whenever she needed something Bergdorf's sold or saw his piggy face on the news.
This shows he's vulnerable. Even if it's only a scratch, it still puts some blood in the water.
CTyankee
(68,203 posts)Warpy
(114,616 posts)It's what his legal team blathered about until the judge shut them down.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)Backs up Stormy's account that he has a small dick ...
In many respects, that is a better outcome than nailing him for rape.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)The definition of rape in New York State, per the judge's instructions, requires that Trump inserted his penis into Carroll's vagina. She testified that she wasn't sure that occurred. Hence, the decision.
Trump was found liable of sexual abuse. He didn't get off.
durablend
(9,270 posts)Or ten
Omnipresent
(7,450 posts)angrychair
(12,285 posts)Like all the way to SCOTUS?
ananda
(35,152 posts)!!!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)CARROLL LIED!!! TRUMP NOT GUILTY OF RAPING CARROLL!!!11!
I'm happy, but this is not quite the victory I was hoping for.
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)Dorn
(562 posts)oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)yonder
(10,293 posts)tRump was not charged with rape.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)And testimony. it certainly was part of the case.
yonder
(10,293 posts)VGNonly
(8,492 posts)Wonder if he's in NY or at his underground lair in FL?
Bayard
(29,707 posts)Now, is there anything about this that would not allow him to run for president? Other than proving he's a complete and total jerk?
AdamGG
(1,883 posts)MAGATs believe that the election was stolen from Trump and that the "patriotic protest" on Jan 6th was justified. This verdict is no problem for them to digest, given what they already accept.
deurbano
(2,986 posts)makes this verdict even sweeter.
Her Tweet:
One of the jurors is a Tim Pool devotee, according to MSNBC. (This came out during voir dire.)
The jury was unanimous.
That means a right winger voted to hold Trump liable for sexual assault. That's pretty huge.
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)No matter, but interesting in retrospect (and looking forward).
deurbano
(2,986 posts)cognitive life? (Not the average right winger..)
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)It's not as if anyone with one single shred of integrity could decide any other way.

yonder
(10,293 posts)bluestarone
(22,179 posts)kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)He will declare bankruptcy as more of these lawsuits go against him. And then portray himself as a victim.
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)and so far is failing.
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)But its like hes invincible and its gross!
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)I think a lot of it early on was because he was considered "good for New York City" in terms of publicity.
Warpy
(114,616 posts)otherwise, it could be reduced to peanuts.
Still, there is now some blood in the water. He's never going to have any peace for the rest of his rotten life.
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)Same question for all the other charges pending against Trump. Is the SC his unbeatable trump card? Or should I say "Get out of jail free" card.
Warpy
(114,616 posts)but I can't remember a case where the USSC stepped in to reduce or abolish a cash judgment for defamation.
IANAL, maybe some DU lawyers would know better.
malthaussen
(18,572 posts)In fact, they've ruled against him, and Republicans, frequently.
You must remember, the people on the Court are set for life. They don't owe anybody anything. The people who put them there may think they're owed something, but their leverage approaches zero.
The people on the USSC have an agenda, and that agenda does not include making everything all better for Donald Trump. Or even the GOP in general. Only insofar as the case is somehow important to that agenda -- which this one is not -- will they intervene. Mr Trump's best hope is to find a court in the process of appeals short of the USSC which he can influence.
-- Mal
Cha
(319,086 posts)this -
is different for you!
Cha
(319,086 posts)that someone here was diagnosed with Covid yesterday and this news has healed her! lol
Feeling pretty good myself!
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)Glad to hear of that this has helped to take the edge off that nasty virus for that DUer!
I know there will be lots of
going on!
Kennah
(14,578 posts)RevBrotherThomas
(856 posts)AdamGG
(1,883 posts)Jean Carroll was young, but Trump lured her in then pinned her to the wall and whisked down her tights and was raping her within just a moment. Imagine how much practice he had to be doing that so routinely and how many times this entitled sociopath must have done the same thing to other women over the last 50 years.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)The assault happened in the mid-90s. She's now 79, so she had to be in her mid-to-late 40s when it happened--i.e., a grown woman.
Age doesn't make an assault better or worse.
The Grand Illuminist
(2,040 posts)With the red tape of appeals.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)could affect that, but best guess he'll deny, deny, deny to the end for those who need to believe that.
But not claiming "erection denial."
(Saw that on another thread.)
Turbineguy
(40,077 posts)onetexan
(13,913 posts)at this point and not above the law given this case. Muster up the courage ladies and nail the bastard. This will hurt his reelection chances if the DoJ, NYAG & Fani Willis don't get him first.
aggiesal
(10,806 posts)electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)Last edited Tue May 9, 2023, 06:22 PM - Edit history (2)
The news first showed up on my FB feed as an Occupy Democrats post just a while ago.
So naturally I had to celebrate here. 👍😄
Especially as an NYC'r watching that smug, entitled face!
OK, I corrected to the proper term but in My mind he's:
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housecat
(3,138 posts)They_Live
(3,373 posts)if I am thinking correctly.
Demnation
(436 posts)IronLionZion
(51,271 posts)maybe on one of the many other crimes he's committed.
liberalmediaaddict
(998 posts)His poll numbers and fundraising with the MAGA base will probably go up but this should make him sweat a bit.