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BumRushDaShow

(169,804 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:39 PM May 2023

Exclusive: Rep. George Santos charged by Justice Department in federal probe

Last edited Tue May 9, 2023, 07:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN Politics

CNN — Federal prosecutors have filed criminal charges against New York Rep. George Santos, the Republican lawmaker whose astonishing pattern of lies and fabrications stunned even hardened politicos, according to three sources familiar with the matter. Santos is expected to appear as soon as Wednesday at federal court in New York’s eastern district, where the charges have been filed under seal.

The exact nature of the charges couldn’t immediately be learned but the FBI and the Justice Department public integrity prosecutors in New York and Washington have been examining allegations of false statements in Santos’ campaign finance filings and other claims.

The congressman’s attorney declined to comment. Spokespeople for the Brooklyn US Attorney’s Office, the Justice Department and the FBI declined to comment.

A spokeswoman for Santos, Naysa Woomer, would not respond to shouted questions from reporters Tuesday afternoon and abruptly departed the congressman’s DC office with her backpack when asked about the federal charges against him. Prior to her departure from the office, CNN witnessed three staffers for Santos abruptly depart with their bags. They wouldn’t talk when pressed for comment.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/george-santos-charged-justice-department/index.html



Article updated.

Original article -

CNN — Federal prosecutors have filed criminal charges against New York Rep. George Santos, the Republican lawmaker whose astonishing pattern of lies and fabrications stunned even hardened politicos, according to three sources familiar with the matter. Santos is expected to appear as soon as Wednesday at federal court in New York’s eastern district, where the charges have been filed under seal.

The exact nature of the charges couldn’t immediately be learned but the FBI and the Justice Department public integrity prosecutors in New York and Washington have been examining allegations of false statements in Santos’ campaign finance filings and other claims.

The congressman’s attorney declined to comment. Spokespeople for the Brooklyn US Attorney’s Office, the Justice Department and the FBI declined to comment.

The freshman congressman, who was elected last year to represent a district that includes parts of Long Island and Queens, has been under investigation in multiple jurisdictions and by the House Ethics Committee. Top Democrats, joined by some New York Republicans, have been calling on Santos to resign over allegations ranging from criminal behavior on the campaign trail to petty personal dishonesty stretching back more than a decade.
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Exclusive: Rep. George Santos charged by Justice Department in federal probe (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2023 OP
The big question is "for which of the carnival of malfeasance is he being charged?" Effete Snob May 2023 #1
Great. Full speed ahead!!! oasis May 2023 #2
Sail's up.. tail winds blowing..full throttle on the dastardly liar onetexan May 2023 #23
This is worth a watch. TheBlackAdder May 2023 #10
MF Creep. Cha May 2023 #14
Thank you. Incredible. He learned from the best: DJT OMGWTF May 2023 #47
It's the D.O.J. I think it was about a year ago, he dropped a gum wrapper on a subway platform. 3Hotdogs May 2023 #19
I went half way through the thread, and didn't find a single gratuitous attack on DOJ. I thought Beastly Boy May 2023 #34
Ditto tiredtoo May 2023 #52
lol Effete Snob May 2023 #38
God knows I hate his being at large soldierant May 2023 #64
This could get really interesting! ShazzieB May 2023 #37
The REALLY big question is what name will he give to the court?? AZ8theist May 2023 #50
Now there's a question. Effete Snob May 2023 #51
Really. Did they even charge the right guy. Maybe he'll show with someone else's drivers license. Ray Bruns May 2023 #65
The saddest part, his district elected him. They're hopeless. dem4decades May 2023 #3
Not necessarily. LiberalFighter May 2023 #15
It'll be tough for them to find another Holocaust surviving ex Volleyball captain AdamGG May 2023 #33
Well that only pisses me off about the "Democratic" redistricting. I'm not completely dem4decades May 2023 #53
'Bout time. nt TeamProg May 2023 #4
LOL. Today's just filled with good news! spudspud May 2023 #5
I know!!! BigmanPigman May 2023 #16
He'll be in jail and different courts for years. Hollywood has already optioned a Santos film ... marble falls May 2023 #6
This is a very good day. Ocelot II May 2023 #7
This really IS a very good day! Novara May 2023 #42
let's see if he resigns. drray23 May 2023 #8
I doubt it.. Santos is a Sociopathic Pathological Cha May 2023 #13
Why on earth would he do that? Effete Snob May 2023 #18
Why resign if he'd be paid EmmaLee E May 2023 #20
you need 6 years for a pension for life. three terms.nt. drray23 May 2023 #21
Thank you. LoisB May 2023 #49
I hope he does not resign, and we can hang him around the neck of every Republican running ZonkerHarris May 2023 #25
Drip, drip. bucolic_frolic May 2023 #9
Whoa! I HOPE the FBI, DOJ, & NY Prosecutors Cha May 2023 #11
Wow.... Drumpf Guilty, now Santos Charged?! An Extra GOOD day! electric_blue68 May 2023 #12
I expect Kevin McCarthy to do the right thing gab13by13 May 2023 #17
Why? GoodRaisin May 2023 #63
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #22
In some ways even more than Trump TlalocW May 2023 #24
Link flying_wahini May 2023 #26
Question for the lawyers: Wednesdays May 2023 #27
Not a lawyer but BumRushDaShow May 2023 #29
More good news! And also long past due! Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #28
It is! BumRushDaShow May 2023 #30
IIRC, his Democratic opponent called for an investigation Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #32
Good BumRushDaShow May 2023 #40
And that is likely the only reason he's still in office given his dishonest behavior and lies Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #41
Yup. BumRushDaShow May 2023 #46
That was brought up earlier - and where did it come from?? Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #48
I expect they had to really sift through a lot BumRushDaShow May 2023 #54
This is a gteat day for the rule of law liberalmediaaddict May 2023 #31
This has been a good day LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #35
Can remain in Congress The charges do not, from a legal standpoint, affect Santos' status as a mem riversedge May 2023 #36
I had mentioned up thread about Jeff Fortenberry BumRushDaShow May 2023 #44
So much cilla4progress May 2023 #39
Fuckin' A!!! Paladin May 2023 #43
Elise Stefanik supported him mgardener May 2023 #45
A win, I'll take it. nt Hotler May 2023 #55
At this time we should not theorize on the nature and cause of this action jmowreader May 2023 #56
i bet it's the credit card swipe/scam thingy prodigitalson May 2023 #57
Little kevieeee said if santos were criminally charged, they would remove him from office PortTack May 2023 #58
Go for it, Georgie! area51 May 2023 #59
I hope we get a perp walk out of this! Nixie May 2023 #60
I'm old enough to remember when the GQP claimed to be the "Law and Order" party lindysalsagal May 2023 #61
They still do! LeftInTX May 2023 #62
Karma!!! lark2 May 2023 #66
KnR Hekate May 2023 #67

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
23. Sail's up.. tail winds blowing..full throttle on the dastardly liar
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:16 PM
May 2023

The Con found liable of rape, the Liar being charged. Good Tuesday so far

3Hotdogs

(15,370 posts)
19. It's the D.O.J. I think it was about a year ago, he dropped a gum wrapper on a subway platform.
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:06 PM
May 2023

This is the same D.o.J. that can't yet find it's way to indict Trump.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
34. I went half way through the thread, and didn't find a single gratuitous attack on DOJ. I thought
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:52 PM
May 2023

hell froze over. Thanks for relieving my concerns.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
38. lol
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:06 PM
May 2023

Okay, now that's funny right there.

I think it's something more serious.

He might have pulled the tag off of a mattress.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
64. God knows I hate his being at large
Wed May 10, 2023, 03:52 AM
May 2023

But do you just want him charged, or do you want him convicted?

This week I find myself glad they have waited until there were seditious conspiracy convictions for Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. And even hoping they can nail Giuliani, Bannon, Jones, Meadows et al before they bring him to court. Those convictions don't change what he has done or what he is doing, but every one is a brick in a huge edifice. And the more bricks, the stronger it will be.

Sure, they might have been able to get a conviction for sediyious conspiracy or wose without those bricks. Or not. There are reasons that RICO and RICO-esque cases are worked from the bottom up.

ShazzieB

(22,597 posts)
37. This could get really interesting!
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:01 PM
May 2023

There's such a long list of shady stuff connected with him, there may be a long list of charges.

I hope it's very long, and I can't wait to find out!

Ray Bruns

(6,370 posts)
65. Really. Did they even charge the right guy. Maybe he'll show with someone else's drivers license.
Wed May 10, 2023, 07:33 AM
May 2023

dem4decades

(14,061 posts)
3. The saddest part, his district elected him. They're hopeless.
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:43 PM
May 2023

They'll elect another asshole, what's wrong with Long Island, and Staten Island for that matter.

Don't bother responding, I know.

AdamGG

(1,883 posts)
33. It'll be tough for them to find another Holocaust surviving ex Volleyball captain
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:52 PM
May 2023

and I think the district has had a Democratic representative before.

dem4decades

(14,061 posts)
53. Well that only pisses me off about the "Democratic" redistricting. I'm not completely
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:44 PM
May 2023

versed in the whole thing but there's been plenty of talk about NY giving Republicans more than a fair chance. Republicans never give Democrats a chance in the red states.

spudspud

(647 posts)
5. LOL. Today's just filled with good news!
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:44 PM
May 2023

Trump's now a sexual abuser per a jury of his peers. Lost $5 million to E. Jean Carroll.
Putin's May Day parade had ONE old ass T-34 tank instead of the usual dozens of modern tanks (paper tiger/corruption/Ukraine says hi).
And now Santos gets slapped upside the head with Federal charges (I bet he figured he was in the clear by this point from just steam rolling along).

BigmanPigman

(55,171 posts)
16. I know!!!
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:59 PM
May 2023

Isn't it fantastic!!! I didn't even know about the May Day parade fiasco which makes my day even better!!!

marble falls

(71,947 posts)
6. He'll be in jail and different courts for years. Hollywood has already optioned a Santos film ...
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:45 PM
May 2023

... Allegedly. Allegedly.

drray23

(8,767 posts)
8. let's see if he resigns.
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:50 PM
May 2023

In the past, being accused, let alone criminallly charged would result in resignation for a politician. Nowadays, I am not sure especially for the GOP. Kevin Mccarthy will probably say it's fine as long as he is not convicted yet. The bar is pretty low for the magats.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
18. Why on earth would he do that?
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:01 PM
May 2023

These days, a man in his position tries to drag anyone else he can down with him.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
25. I hope he does not resign, and we can hang him around the neck of every Republican running
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:24 PM
May 2023

Cha

(319,090 posts)
11. Whoa! I HOPE the FBI, DOJ, & NY Prosecutors
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:55 PM
May 2023

GET him!!

TY BRDS! Can'at wait to see the Charges.

TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
24. In some ways even more than Trump
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:19 PM
May 2023

I want to see that grin wiped off his smug, stupid face. I hope whatever they're charging him with is big, and it sticks.

Wednesdays

(22,609 posts)
27. Question for the lawyers:
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:29 PM
May 2023

I am assuming that Santos appearance in court tomorrow will be for some sort of arraignment. Can I also assume that even though they're not public now, that Santos is aware of what he's been charged with?

Not taking Santos' side here, but I would hate to be dragged into court, clueless as to what charges are made against me until the last moment, and then having to stand there and plead guilty or not guilty without at least a little time to think of the plea.

BumRushDaShow

(169,804 posts)
29. Not a lawyer but
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:45 PM
May 2023

I think 45 went through the same when the charges were filed by Alvin Bragg but no one knew the number and types until they were unsealed during the arraignment.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143053042

One of the early versions of that story -

Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump in New York: Live Updates

A Manhattan grand jury voted to indict Donald J. Trump on Thursday for his role in paying hush money to a porn star, according to four people with knowledge of the matter, a historic development that will shake up the 2024 presidential race and forever mark him as the nation's first former president to face criminal charges.

The felony indictment, filed under seal by the Manhattan district attorney's office, will likely be announced in the coming days. By then, prosecutors working for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, will have asked Mr. Trump to surrender and to face arraignment on charges that remain unknown for now.

Mr. Trump has for decades avoided criminal charges despite persistent scrutiny and repeated investigations, creating an aura of legal invincibility that the vote to indict now threatens to puncture. His actions surrounding his 2020 electoral defeat are now the focus of a separate federal investigation, and a Georgia prosecutor is in the final stages of an investigation into Mr. Trump's attempts to reverse the election results in that state.

But unlike the investigations that arose from his time in the White House, this case is built around a tawdry episode that predates Mr. Trump's presidency. The reality star turned presidential candidate who shocked the political establishment by winning the White House now faces a reckoning for a hush money payment that buried a sex scandal in the final days of the 2016 campaign.


(emphasis mine)

During the appearance the following week, the charges were spelled out - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143055500

Trump charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records

Former President Donald Trump was formally charged in New York City Tuesday with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to 2016 hush money payments, according to the Manhattan district attorney's office.

Michael Cohen, Trump's former personal attorney, paid $130,000 to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in the closing days of the 2016 presidential campaign to keep her quiet about an affair she claimed to have had with Trump, which Trump has long denied.

Prosecutors with the Manhattan district attorney's office say that Trump illegally falsified business records when his reimbursement of the funds to Cohen was logged in the Trump Organization's books as a "monthly retainer" for Cohen's legal services. The former president, who has denied all wrongdoing, entered a plea of not guilty to all charges.

In a statement, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said that Trump was accused of "falsifying New York business records in order to conceal damaging information and unlawful activity from American voters before and after the 2016 election."


I expect they obviously are given time to review during the appearance and the lawyers will advise how to respond.

Rhiannon12866

(255,595 posts)
28. More good news! And also long past due!
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:39 PM
May 2023

Thanks so much for the details that are known! His constituents must be ecstatic!

Rhiannon12866

(255,595 posts)
32. IIRC, his Democratic opponent called for an investigation
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:51 PM
May 2023

And a group of his constituents actually went to D.C., calling for another election.

BumRushDaShow

(169,804 posts)
40. Good
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:13 PM
May 2023

I expect that McCarthy will NOT let him resign unless he is convicted because he can't lose any votes.

I know that when Fortenberry was indicted, he stayed until he was finally convicted at trial, and he resigned a couple days later.

Rhiannon12866

(255,595 posts)
41. And that is likely the only reason he's still in office given his dishonest behavior and lies
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:18 PM
May 2023

But it's long past time that his unprecedented behavior caught up with him, not to mention, isn't he still wanted in Brazil??

BumRushDaShow

(169,804 posts)
46. Yup.
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:31 PM
May 2023

In fact, they are discussing this on Joy's show right now!

(Contributor Paul Butler earlier had said this was an "easy case" because there was apparently a "smoking gun" of $700,000 contribution that was a loan from Santos to his own campaign that there is no accounting of)

Rhiannon12866

(255,595 posts)
48. That was brought up earlier - and where did it come from??
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:34 PM
May 2023

This individual's lies are so overwhelming that he's not to be trusted on any single thing!

BumRushDaShow

(169,804 posts)
54. I expect they had to really sift through a lot
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:59 PM
May 2023

to find what they planned to charge him with out of a pile of possible stuff.

I guess we'll know how many charges (and for what) tomorrow!

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
31. This is a gteat day for the rule of law
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:49 PM
May 2023

If Santos resigns Democrats are very likely to win back his seat.

That would lower the Republican House majority to 3 seats.

riversedge

(80,821 posts)
36. Can remain in Congress The charges do not, from a legal standpoint, affect Santos' status as a mem
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:58 PM
May 2023

Well, looks like he can draw a paycheck. Correct me if I am wrong, but he is running for re-election isn't he??





https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/george-santos-charged-justice-department/index.html


..............Can remain in Congress

The charges do not, from a legal standpoint, affect Santos’ status as a member of Congress. Nothing in the Constitution’s requirements for congressional office bars individuals under criminal indictment or conviction from serving, except for the 14th Amendment prohibitions for certain treasonous conduct committed after a member has taken the oath of office.

Under the formal rules for the US House of Representatives, according to a Congressional Research Service report, “an indicted Member may continue to participate in congressional proceedings and considerations.”

However, if a member is convicted of a crime that could result in a punishment of two or more years in prison, they are instructed under House rules not to participate in votes on the floor or in committee votes.

BumRushDaShow

(169,804 posts)
44. I had mentioned up thread about Jeff Fortenberry
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:27 PM
May 2023
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3072453

He was indicted, was then convicted when he had his trial, and finally resigned a couple days after the conviction.

mgardener

(2,360 posts)
45. Elise Stefanik supported him
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:28 PM
May 2023

And never called for him to resign.
And she still supports Trump.
She is such a poor judge of character.
She is also an ethical and moral coward.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
56. At this time we should not theorize on the nature and cause of this action
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:50 PM
May 2023

This is because with George Santos, it could be ANYTHING.

If they try hauling him in for all the wrongdoing he has committed in his brief existence on this mortal coil, they'll need a hand truck to bring the charging instrument into the courtroom. So...they've probably picked a nice half-dozen of his most egregious offenses that are sure to bring a smile to one and all and a nice stay in a gated community somewhere in the state.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
58. Little kevieeee said if santos were criminally charged, they would remove him from office
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:05 PM
May 2023

3…..2…………1

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