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BumRushDaShow

(171,531 posts)
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:16 PM May 2023

Biden proposal would let conservationists lease public land much as drillers and ranchers do

Source: NBC News/AP

BILLINGS, Mont. — The Biden administration wants to put conserving vast government-owned lands on equal footing with oil drilling, livestock grazing and other interests, according to a top administration official who defended the idea against criticism that it would interfere with industry.

The proposal would allow conservationists and others to lease federally owned land to restore it, much the same way oil companies buy leases to drill and ranchers pay to graze cattle. Companies could also buy conservation leases, such as oil drillers who want to offset damage to public land by restoring acreage elsewhere.

Tracy Stone-Manning, director of the Bureau of Land Management, said in an interview with The Associated Press that the proposed changes would address rising pressure from climate change and development. While the bureau previously issued leases for conservation in limited cases, it has never had a dedicated program for it, she said.

“It makes conservation an equal among the multiple uses that we manage for,” Stone-Manning said. “There are rules around how we do solar development. There are rules around how we do oil and gas. There have not been rules around how we deliver on the portions of (federal law) that say, ‘Manage for fish and wildlife habitat, manage for clean water.’”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/biden-rule-let-conservationists-lease-restore-land-rcna84428



Link to original presser for today's initial meeting about the Rule - https://www.blm.gov/press-release/update-blm-releases-public-meeting-information-proposed-public-lands-rule

Link to draft of Rule in the Federal Register - https://www.regulations.gov/document/BLM-2023-0001-0001
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Biden proposal would let conservationists lease public land much as drillers and ranchers do (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2023 OP
Ooh, I like it. Freethinker65 May 2023 #1
Brilliant! sybylla May 2023 #2
BLM is actually the only profit-making agency in the federal KPN May 2023 #15
Yes, I knew that. sybylla May 2023 #18
That is slick. Torchlight May 2023 #3
Hell Yeah! montanacowboy May 2023 #4
Would conservationists get to lease it for pennies, Bayard May 2023 #5
I only know about offshore leases dclarston13 May 2023 #6
You might recall the drilling leases in Alaska BumRushDaShow May 2023 #7
I love it...... I bet some right wing brains are gonna' be bursting. groundloop May 2023 #8
Yeah, what insane reasons will they invent... WestMichRad May 2023 #10
Makes perfect sense dlk May 2023 #9
Makes too much sense for fascists to go along with housecat May 2023 #11
That's the truth. Duppers May 2023 #13
I like it! calimary May 2023 #12
Maybe Nature Conservancy can take most of it Evolve Dammit May 2023 #14
I suspect they'll continue to focus on conservation easements KPN May 2023 #16
great organization Evolve Dammit May 2023 #19
Sounds really good! 👍 nt Raine May 2023 #17

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
1. Ooh, I like it.
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:26 PM
May 2023

Can conservationists lease the land for far less than it is worth like the corporations and ranchers do? Will taxpayers provide subsidized infrastructure like they sometimes do other private entities? If the land gets returned in worse condition than it was leased out, can the conservations walk away to let US taxpayers deal with any remediation efforts like other private entities sometimes do?

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
2. Brilliant!
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:37 PM
May 2023

Though I dislike the idea of just making it so, if we have to force the capitalists to compete I'm in.

Just want to be on record saying that this should be a thing the government does/pays for.

KPN

(17,487 posts)
15. BLM is actually the only profit-making agency in the federal
Mon May 15, 2023, 07:13 PM
May 2023

government last I knew. Annual receipts returned to the US Treasury from leases (oil and gas, land leases — transportation corridors, communication sites) and sales (timber on the stump, saleable minerals like gravel, etc) and other fees (grazing, recreational, special use events, and sundry others) exceed the annual operational budget of the BLM. Leases for conservation purposes will do likewise. You are right; one thing this likely will do is make extractive, commercial uses compete economically with conservation (non-extractive) use. Commercial uses may wind up costing a whole lot more than they do currently.

To me, this is an interesting if not exciting concept. Conservation and recreation have always had to compete as unpriced values economically with extractive and commercial uses of land. The dollar is the common denominator, but there’s never been a dollar value that can be placed on, say a desert tortoise or desert tortoise habitat except in the case of private reserves on privately owned lands (the price of the land, for example).

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
18. Yes, I knew that.
Mon May 15, 2023, 08:31 PM
May 2023

And I'm sad that we are in a position to have to spend dollars protecting things that are priceless if lost.

OTOH, the idea of supporting a non-profit buying away all the leases for cow pasture and returning that land to the buffalo? Yes, please.

Torchlight

(6,993 posts)
3. That is slick.
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:51 PM
May 2023

Kinda brilliant in its ubiquitous, all-interests-are-equal approach, cutting off at the knees a hundred different counter-arguments.

Bayard

(30,107 posts)
5. Would conservationists get to lease it for pennies,
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:58 PM
May 2023

Like the big ranches do? I also don't see anything in the article about whether the leases would be ongoing.

Still, this would be a BFD if it happens.

dclarston13

(444 posts)
6. I only know about offshore leases
Mon May 15, 2023, 04:33 PM
May 2023

Those go up for bid in a public-ish auction. I assume the same goes for the land, so if you own acreage that is adjacent to BLM land and the public land goes up for lease, you may indeed get it for the minimum bid, if there are no other bidders. I cannot remember what that minimum is. There are also conditions associated with maintaining the lease.
I think its great plan, and like most other govt plans it may be tricky to navigate the process. My first thought was to get some near shore leases in the Gulf of Mexico to protect sport fishing habitats.

BumRushDaShow

(171,531 posts)
7. You might recall the drilling leases in Alaska
Mon May 15, 2023, 04:44 PM
May 2023

recently in the news - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143045391

ConocoPhillips had obtained those leases in the National Petroleum Reserve years ago and DOI eventually approved drilling on 3 of the 5 pad sites, which would be the bare minimum for development.

So that is where you'll see those "land leases" - up in Alaska.

WestMichRad

(3,359 posts)
10. Yeah, what insane reasons will they invent...
Mon May 15, 2023, 05:16 PM
May 2023

… to oppose this? They won’t want conservation interfering with their ability to use that land for their own profit.

calimary

(90,554 posts)
12. I like it!
Mon May 15, 2023, 05:19 PM
May 2023

Either he’s thinking up these interesting ideas or he’s surrounded himself with people who do.

Either way, it’s a WIN!

KPN

(17,487 posts)
16. I suspect they'll continue to focus on conservation easements
Mon May 15, 2023, 07:19 PM
May 2023

on private lands; oftentimes private adjoining public lands and reserves. But they may just Wade into highly controversial public land areas like the Arctic Refuge.

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