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riversedge

(80,808 posts)
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:00 AM May 2023

McCarthy demands work requirements on 'all the programs' including Social Security, Medicare, Medic

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Source: raw story




McCarthy demands work requirements on ‘all the programs’ including Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP
David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement


May 16, 2023, 1:56 PM ET





..........McCarthy also claimed that forcing people who may not be physically or emotionally able to work, or who may have responsibilities that preclude them from leaving the house to go to a job "helps the supply chain."

What the Speaker is ignoring are the millions of undocumented immigrants currently within our borders desperate to work at jobs that won't threaten their ability to stay in the country – not to mention the thousands of others coming to the U.S. seeking asylum or a way out of poverty, gangs, drugs, disease, and corruption........



.............Despite McCarthy's apparent implication that Americans accessing social safety net benefits are not currently working, in fact many who are, do.

Earlier this year the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities published a state-by-state report that also finds nationally, more than 41% of SNAP recipients are in working families................

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/mccarthy-demands-work-requirements-on-all-the-programs-including-social-security-medicare-medicaid-and-snap/







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McCarthy demands work requirements on 'all the programs' including Social Security, Medicare, Medic (Original Post) riversedge May 2023 OP
And how many hours a day did his "dear leader" BigmanPigman May 2023 #1
I've got one job for this asshole jpak May 2023 #2
Ask Him Why He Voted 3X OhioTim May 2023 #3
Fuck off, McCarthy! electric_blue68 May 2023 #4
I am 81, disabled, and homebound chillfactor May 2023 #5
I don't care how old or sick you are. 3Hotdogs May 2023 #26
I have a home care client Abigail_Adams May 2023 #42
Hey, you're still breathing! newdayneeded May 2023 #47
I have a friend with a severely autistic 9 year old. Staph May 2023 #6
I needed to retire early to care for my very elderly mom..... riversedge May 2023 #7
and stupid.. AZ8theist May 2023 #8
No mention of Social Security in the article Beachnutt May 2023 #9
I was wondering because we worked True Blue American May 2023 #11
Another case of a title mis-stating the content of the article. For an intended purpose? jaxexpat May 2023 #12
Work requirements should only apply to single non disabled people. oldsoftie May 2023 #21
They don't realize how few they are RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #29
NPR's Marketplace Did A Story On This Last Night... GB_RN May 2023 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #33
There is in this article The Jungle 1 May 2023 #34
I don't see any Social Security mentioned Beachnutt May 2023 #41
Social Security is not mentioned in that article either. jaxexpat May 2023 #43
SS is NOT a safety net program! This entire thread has no beef in the buns!! Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #37
When they bailed out the banks what kind of work requirements Emile May 2023 #10
Exactly! BigOleDummy May 2023 #13
Where is the requirement for a living wage? MissMillie May 2023 #14
I've come to the conclusion these are just evil people Trenzalore May 2023 #15
Maybe he's referring to the kind of work tavernier May 2023 #16
Shove it Kevin! mountain grammy May 2023 #17
This kind of shit is why there is so much violence in this country Novara May 2023 #18
NPR's Marketplace explains it all Easterncedar May 2023 #19
The most marginal labor working 10 hours a week at low-level jobs helps how? bucolic_frolic May 2023 #20
What a dipshit Puppyjive May 2023 #22
Republicans are forcing women to have children they can't afford and then denying poor Lonestarblue May 2023 #23
GOPeeDon'tCare at work. lastlib May 2023 #25
Nope RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #30
Pandering, IMO, to conservatives everywhere ... Auggie May 2023 #24
"If these people want to sponge off taxpayers, they can run for office, tanyev May 2023 #27
This numbnuts doesn't realize nonwealthy SS recipients already work if they are Vinca May 2023 #28
Hey dick weed. The Jungle 1 May 2023 #32
They have no clue on how some have to survive... MiHale May 2023 #35
This is inaccurate reporting by rawstory Fiendish Thingy May 2023 #36
+1 honest.abe May 2023 #45
This demand is a good thing. It's a study on how to get your ass voted out of office. infullview May 2023 #38
ass doesn't have a clue Marthe48 May 2023 #39
Lazy entitled retirees need to get back to work IronLionZion May 2023 #40
What about all the CORPORATE WELFARE being handed out? groundloop May 2023 #44
Here comes the 14th amendment. President Biden will never agree to this, or the other terrorist PortTack May 2023 #46
Locking MustLoveBeagles May 2023 #48

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
1. And how many hours a day did his "dear leader"
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:05 AM
May 2023

work each day as the fame POTUS? I think it was 2-3 hours a day, at the most. He spent more time tweeting and trying to hide his lack of hair each day than he ever did "working" in DC. The party of Grand Old Hypocrites.

jpak

(41,780 posts)
2. I've got one job for this asshole
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:07 AM
May 2023

Yup

OhioTim

(389 posts)
3. Ask Him Why He Voted 3X
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:39 AM
May 2023

for a new debt limit when Trump was in office. No deal with the fraudsters.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
4. Fuck off, McCarthy!
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:42 AM
May 2023

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
5. I am 81, disabled, and homebound
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:44 AM
May 2023

how in the hell am I supposed to meet work requirements?

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
26. I don't care how old or sick you are.
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:49 AM
May 2023

Everyone could spend at least one hour a week, stuffing envelopes at the local office of the R.N.C.

 

Abigail_Adams

(333 posts)
42. I have a home care client
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:54 AM
May 2023

who recently turned 100. He can barely walk. Just like you, what the hell is my client supposed to do? This is insane, and McCarthy is following the orders of the Chaos Caucus of the GOP whose votes he needed to become speaker. This is despicable.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
47. Hey, you're still breathing!
Wed May 17, 2023, 11:10 AM
May 2023

I'm picturing you in the construction sector. Maybe roofing, or 10 hour days hanging siding on houses, perhaps the mining industry.....

of course I'm kidding. Mccarthy needs to pound sand! What a dickhead!

Staph

(6,467 posts)
6. I have a friend with a severely autistic 9 year old.
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:59 AM
May 2023

How is he supposed to meet the work requirement?


riversedge

(80,808 posts)
7. I needed to retire early to care for my very elderly mom.....
Wed May 17, 2023, 04:07 AM
May 2023

There was no money to provide care for her and a nursing home was too expensive. She needed Medicaid and some food stamps. When I quit work she was 85 and just died a few months ago. She was a strong women-actually moved about the house with her walker until the last week. McCarthy is a cruel man. Simple as that.

AZ8theist

(7,370 posts)
8. and stupid..
Wed May 17, 2023, 04:16 AM
May 2023

Beachnutt

(8,909 posts)
9. No mention of Social Security in the article
Wed May 17, 2023, 04:38 AM
May 2023

snap benefits and emegency medicaid are being discussed though.
If They force work requirements for food stamps (snap, supplemental nutrition assistance program)
which I hope they do not, surely more folks will show up and vote the rethugs out in the next election.

another link on this also
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/15/gop-work-requirement-demands-debt-talks-00097058

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
11. I was wondering because we worked
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:11 AM
May 2023

And invested in SS and are still paying for Medicare. I also worked past retirement age so I could save and invest.

Now look what Republicans under DeWine and LaRosa are trying to sneak through in Ohio.


https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/05/16/save-the-date-ohios-aug-8-election-puts-nearly-175-years-of-majority-voter-authority-on-the-line/

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
12. Another case of a title mis-stating the content of the article. For an intended purpose?
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:20 AM
May 2023

I wonder how many people don't know the difference between the concept of a "social safety net" and the actual concrete fact of "The US Social Security Administration." I'm afraid the answer to that question will be an eye-opener and such a title does nothing but further confuse the issue.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
21. Work requirements should only apply to single non disabled people.
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:08 AM
May 2023

Not people with kids at home or anyone disabled.
But why not require it for single people who are able?

But these SYSTEMS also need changing. Section 8 housing assistance is rigged to give NO incentive to work more or make more money. If you make $50 more one month they'll take away $50 from your subsidy the next month. Thats BS. Maybe take away $1 for every 3-4 extra you make. Otherwise, why bother? And they stay stuck.
Not sure if SNAP does the same but it wouldn't surprise me

 
29. They don't realize how few they are
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:07 AM
May 2023

Single Able-bodied people collecting FoodStamps are already working. They are called the Working Poor

This is just smoke and mirror for the audience....political theater

GB_RN

(3,558 posts)
31. NPR's Marketplace Did A Story On This Last Night...
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:09 AM
May 2023

The work requirements thing is a moneymaker for for-profit companies, not government entities. It’s a complete scam. These outfits aren’t out to help the beneficiaries of the social programs. They exist only to make a buck off of the backs of the people they allegedly “help” and us taxpayers.

The head of the biggest and oldest company (started with the original work requirements with “Welfare Reform” 1.0 in 1994), made $6 million last year and according to the clip of his first quarter earnings conference call Marketplace played, he sees massive growth potential in “Welfare Reform 2.0”. Which simply means massive growth in his compensation and stock price…and ripping off of US taxpayers. Wouldn’t the money those companies get paid be better utilized going directly to program beneficiaries? 🤬

Fuck McQarthy.

Response to oldsoftie (Reply #21)

Beachnutt

(8,909 posts)
41. I don't see any Social Security mentioned
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:53 AM
May 2023

in that article either, Social safety program is not social security, it's food stamps, medicare, section 8 housing etc..

If they did cut that the able bodied magaloons wouldn't have time or means to attend rallies...
I don't want this to happen as it is proven to help families.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
43. Social Security is not mentioned in that article either.
Wed May 17, 2023, 09:02 AM
May 2023

There's something wrong when we quote the titles of articles when the article doesn't agree with the title. It's called misinformation and when it's repeated it's called propaganda.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
37. SS is NOT a safety net program! This entire thread has no beef in the buns!!
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:27 AM
May 2023

Another distorted article…for clickbait and ofc to generate RAGE, as work req. is focused on social safety net.

Clear?

Emile

(42,284 posts)
10. When they bailed out the banks what kind of work requirements
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:08 AM
May 2023

did they impose on the bankers?

BigOleDummy

(2,274 posts)
13. Exactly!
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:46 AM
May 2023

And well said.

MissMillie

(39,652 posts)
14. Where is the requirement for a living wage?
Wed May 17, 2023, 06:09 AM
May 2023

Where is the requirement for business to compensate workers for higher productivity?

If wages kept pace w/ productivity, the minimum wage would be over $20/hr!

If wages were higher, tax collections would be too!




Trenzalore

(2,575 posts)
15. I've come to the conclusion these are just evil people
Wed May 17, 2023, 06:13 AM
May 2023

My brother is severely autistic. He is in a group home with about four other mentally challenged people. The social security benefit that he receives and they receive is used to partly pay for the group home.

No employer wants to employ these people. They require aid and constant supervision.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
16. Maybe he's referring to the kind of work
Wed May 17, 2023, 06:33 AM
May 2023

that the republican congress does. In that case the requirements would be “Sit on your fat ass and collect a paycheck.”

mountain grammy

(29,035 posts)
17. Shove it Kevin!
Wed May 17, 2023, 06:34 AM
May 2023

How about you do some work?

Novara

(6,115 posts)
18. This kind of shit is why there is so much violence in this country
Wed May 17, 2023, 06:52 AM
May 2023

One word: inequality.

Other countries with strong social support do not have the kind of violence we have. They take care of their citizens. People here get desperate, can't pay for medical care, can't provide for their families.

And republicans want to make it worse, always.

For as long as I live, I will never understand how people vote for these motherfuckers and vote against their own self-interest every goddamn time.

Easterncedar

(6,267 posts)
19. NPR's Marketplace explains it all
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:04 AM
May 2023

The Welfare-to Work-Industrial Complex on The Uncertain Hour podcast. Episodes 5 and 6 need to be heard by everyone and shouted from the rooftops. McCarthy’s corruptly serving these companies that literally refer to people on welfare as their “product.” Maximus CEO admitted it might sound bad but that’s just the fact.

bucolic_frolic

(55,131 posts)
20. The most marginal labor working 10 hours a week at low-level jobs helps how?
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:08 AM
May 2023

Puppyjive

(987 posts)
22. What a dipshit
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:22 AM
May 2023

Do you know how much money it would cost to monitor work requirements? Does he think those employees at social security have the hours in the day to add that to they're plate? Their inability to govern has caused the perfect storm at social security. There won't be anyone left to manage benefits. They are losing 1000 employees a month. No one wants to work the jobs. They have become too difficult to learn and the workload is unsustainable. Good grief.

Lonestarblue

(13,479 posts)
23. Republicans are forcing women to have children they can't afford and then denying poor
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:25 AM
May 2023

women the economic assistance needed to feed those children. When you have too many children, you can’t work because someone has to take care of them and paid child care is often unaffordable even for families with decent paying jobs. It oh so pro life to force more poor kids into the world and then refuse to feed them.

lastlib

(28,260 posts)
25. GOPeeDon'tCare at work.
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:39 AM
May 2023
 
30. Nope
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:09 AM
May 2023

It solves nothing ....its political theater

Auggie

(33,148 posts)
24. Pandering, IMO, to conservatives everywhere ...
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:34 AM
May 2023

looking for something, anything, outrageous and divisive to hang their hats on and engage followers.

tanyev

(49,288 posts)
27. "If these people want to sponge off taxpayers, they can run for office,
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:00 AM
May 2023

like me and all my Republican colleagues."


Vinca

(53,990 posts)
28. This numbnuts doesn't realize nonwealthy SS recipients already work if they are
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:00 AM
May 2023

physically able, just to put food on the table.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
32. Hey dick weed.
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:12 AM
May 2023

That is MY money. I paid my money into the system for 45 years. Shut your fing pie hole and give me MY money.

Next they will want a work requirement for public education. We need to put them rug rats to work.

MiHale

(13,032 posts)
35. They have no clue on how some have to survive...
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:25 AM
May 2023

And on top of it they don’t care. “Representative” what a joke title they can’t represent what they don’t know.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,227 posts)
36. This is inaccurate reporting by rawstory
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:26 AM
May 2023

McCarthy did not specify Medicare or SS- that is rawstory’s assumption, not a direct quote.

He did say “all the programs” in the context of means tested programs such as Medicaid and SNAP.

SS and Medicare are not means tested.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
45. +1
Wed May 17, 2023, 11:03 AM
May 2023

infullview

(1,129 posts)
38. This demand is a good thing. It's a study on how to get your ass voted out of office.
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:30 AM
May 2023

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
39. ass doesn't have a clue
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:33 AM
May 2023

Most of the people I know who get social security are using their time to help others. for free. Babysitting, petsitting, driving, tending. Some get low-paying jobs to augment their s.s. Actually, my group of friends are so busy, we have trouble meeting up for lunch once in awhile because we are all so busy. ass will never understand that the dynamics in many families employ the elderly, the infirm, or the young to cover what needs to be done. The r's who think we are not contributing need to get off their asses and do their jobs, instead of acting like winning an election is the culmination of their effort and they can sit on their asses and rake in tax dollars as their reward. Like that isn't entitlement? They should be paid by the hour, and be on a time clock.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
40. Lazy entitled retirees need to get back to work
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:53 AM
May 2023

groundloop

(13,846 posts)
44. What about all the CORPORATE WELFARE being handed out?
Wed May 17, 2023, 10:21 AM
May 2023

Cutting corporate welfare to big oil, corporate farms, big pharma, etc. etc. etc. would go a long way towards balancing the budget asshole!!!!

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
46. Here comes the 14th amendment. President Biden will never agree to this, or the other terrorist
Wed May 17, 2023, 11:03 AM
May 2023

Demands

MustLoveBeagles

(16,399 posts)
48. Locking
Wed May 17, 2023, 11:19 AM
May 2023

As this is an opinion piece. I suggest reposting in General Discussion.

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