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BumRushDaShow

(164,494 posts)
Wed May 17, 2023, 04:47 PM May 2023

House Republicans block Democratic effort to expel George Santos from Congress

Last edited Wed May 17, 2023, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CBS News

Washington — House Republicans on Wednesday blocked a Democratic resolution that would expel GOP Rep. George Santos from Congress, instead voting to refer the matter to a committee while several investigations into his conduct continue.

Santos faces 13 federal charges of fraud, money laundering and other crimes, with prosecutors alleging he pocketed thousands of dollars of campaign contributions and fraudulently collected unemployment benefits. The New York Republican, who lied about numerous aspects of his background in his pursuit of his congressional seat, pleaded not guilty and recently announced he will run for reelection next year.

On Tuesday, Democratic Rep. Robert Garcia of California introduced a measure to expel Santos from the House as a "privileged" resolution, fast-tracking its consideration under House rules. Republicans moved Wednesday to refer the bill to the House Ethics Committee, which opened a formal probe into Santos in March. That vote, which required a simple majority, succeeded along party lines by a margin of 221 to 204. Seven Democrats voted present.

"I look forward to seeing the process play out, and if the Ethics Committee finds a reason to remove me, that is the process," Santos, who voted to refer the resolution to the panel, said Wednesday evening. "I look forward to continuing to defend myself. Again, innocent until proven guilty." Republican Rep. Anthony D'Esposito of New York said before the vote that he was in favor of expelling Santos, but "regrettably" there weren't enough votes to oust him.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-santos-expulsion-resolution-house-vote-ethics-committee/



Article updated.

Original article -

Washington — House Republicans on Wednesday blocked a Democratic resolution that would expel GOP Rep. George Santos from Congress, instead voting to refer the matter to a committee while several investigations into his conduct continue. Santos faces 13 federal charges of fraud, money laundering and other crimes, with prosecutors alleging he pocketed thousands of dollars of campaign contributions and fraudulently collected unemployment benefits.

The New York Republican, who lied about numerous aspects of his background in his pursuit of his congressional seat, pleaded not guilty and recently announced he will run for reelection next year. On Tuesday, Democratic Rep. Robert Garcia of California introduced a measure to expel Santos from the House as a "privileged" resolution, fast-tracking its consideration under House rules. Republicans moved Wednesday to refer the bill to the House Ethics Committee, which opened a formal probe into Santos in March.

That vote, which required a simple majority, succeeded along party lines by a margin of 221 to 204. Seven Democrats voted present. Republican Rep. Anthony D'Esposito of New York said before the vote that he was in favor of expelling Santos, but "regrettably" there weren't enough votes to oust him. "I believe that this individual is a stain on this institution, a stain on the state of New York, a stain on Long Island and a stain on the beloved Nassau County," D'Esposito said.

"With that said, we believe this resolution should be referred to the Committee on Ethics to ensure a thorough and expedient investigation into this matter. I firmly believe this is the quickest way of ridding the House of Representatives of this scourge on government." The vote gave other vulnerable Republicans cover from being forced to go on the record with their position on whether the indicted New York congressman should keep his seat. Republicans hold a slim four-seat majority in the House and can ill afford to lose any members.
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House Republicans block Democratic effort to expel George Santos from Congress (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2023 OP
They just bought him. Turbineguy May 2023 #1
Of course. Kevin needs Santos' vote to crash the US and Global economy.. emulatorloo May 2023 #2
Honor. The Unmitigated Gall May 2023 #3
They will back a lying POS after lying, criminal POS, after lying, criminal CONVICTED POS. Un-Fing B Evolve Dammit May 2023 #4
I had found this a couple years ago and I think it fits regarding him BumRushDaShow May 2023 #6
Nice! Evolve Dammit May 2023 #26
Tie it around their neck. I mean what can we expect when their lyin king is a rapist. onecaliberal May 2023 #5
Which seven Democrats voted "present"? orangecrush May 2023 #7
My thoughts as well bluestarone May 2023 #9
Here's a list. rogue emissary May 2023 #14
Thanks orangecrush May 2023 #29
I still don't get it SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #8
They have a 9 vote majority which is really a 5 vote swing. oldsoftie May 2023 #10
They have no shame. SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #11
+1 peppertree May 2023 #12
He has to be made... 2naSalit May 2023 #13
That would make an excellent reminder for voters. Kid Berwyn May 2023 #24
I guess that says it all... corruption runs through the whole GOP. ananda May 2023 #15
Santos is the poster boy for today's Republican values dlk May 2023 #16
Good Grief! His own constituents came to D.C. to call for another election! Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #17
Yup - the others in his NY delegation chickened out BumRushDaShow May 2023 #18
I guess we shouldn't be surprised, the Republican contingency still supports a criminal for POTUS Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #19
He is not the person his constituents voted for Bayard May 2023 #25
I don't support expulsion COL Mustard May 2023 #20
The whole damn republican party is rotten, top to bottom. mwb970 May 2023 #21
If reversed does ANYONE think seven Republicans would have voted "present"? Bengus81 May 2023 #22
I *think* that the 7 were all on the Ethics Committee which is already investigating him BumRushDaShow May 2023 #23
Here's the Republicans on the Committee who voted NO to expel Santos Bengus81 May 2023 #27
That vote was actually for a motion to send this matter to Committee BumRushDaShow May 2023 #28
Keep the pressure on and the coverage going lees1975 May 2023 #30

Evolve Dammit

(21,373 posts)
4. They will back a lying POS after lying, criminal POS, after lying, criminal CONVICTED POS. Un-Fing B
Wed May 17, 2023, 04:59 PM
May 2023

The GOP is a criminal enterprise at this point, similar to NRA, KKK and all the Proud MFers. May they all rot in hell.

orangecrush

(27,843 posts)
7. Which seven Democrats voted "present"?
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:08 PM
May 2023



"That vote, which required a simple majority, succeeded along party lines by a margin of 221 to 204. Seven Democrats voted present."

WTF?

rogue emissary

(3,336 posts)
14. Here's a list.
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:32 PM
May 2023

From this article.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-expected-resolution-expel-rep-santos-congress/story?id=99396309

The The full House adopted the motion by a party-line vote of 221-204, with seven members voting present. All five Republicans on the House Ethics Committee voted in favor of the motion, while the Democrats on the committee all voted present. Reps. Chrissy Houlahan, D-Pa., and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, D-Wash., also voted present.


From the official gov site for the members on the House Ethics committee.

https://ethics.house.gov/about/committee-members

Democrats
Ranking Member Susan Wild, Pennsylvania

Veronica Escobar, Texas

Mark DeSaulnier, California

Deborah K. Ross, North Carolina

Glenn F. Ivey, Maryland

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
8. I still don't get it
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:09 PM
May 2023

Repugs have a 17 vote majority and they are worried about getting rid of ONE corrupt ass. Does his vote really count for that much?

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
10. They have a 9 vote majority which is really a 5 vote swing.
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:15 PM
May 2023

But without Santos even if a Dem wins that seat they'd still have a 7 vote majority.

peppertree

(23,060 posts)
12. +1
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:25 PM
May 2023

Santos is the very image of the kind of dysfunctional, kleptocratic 3rd-world politics Republicans want.

And of course Trump.

2naSalit

(99,385 posts)
13. He has to be made...
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:30 PM
May 2023

The albatross around their necks every single day. A rotting, stinking reminder of their treachery with every breath they take.

Kid Berwyn

(22,548 posts)
24. That would make an excellent reminder for voters.
Thu May 18, 2023, 08:06 AM
May 2023

Seeing how CNN is the new Fox, they will need help keeping things straight.

Then-Rep. Mark Foley, the Republican congressional leader who liked to proposition teenage male pages, was “accidentally” confused as a D in the minds of the public by journalistic malpractice.



Of course, tee vee news failed to mention how he was House leader of the subcommittee on missing and exploited children.

ananda

(34,190 posts)
15. I guess that says it all... corruption runs through the whole GOP.
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:40 PM
May 2023

And it stinks to high heaven.

dlk

(13,080 posts)
16. Santos is the poster boy for today's Republican values
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:42 PM
May 2023

This should be a millstone around their necks.

Rhiannon12866

(248,430 posts)
17. Good Grief! His own constituents came to D.C. to call for another election!
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:53 PM
May 2023

It's all about that one Republican vote...

BumRushDaShow

(164,494 posts)
18. Yup - the others in his NY delegation chickened out
Wed May 17, 2023, 07:57 PM
May 2023

claiming there were already "not enough votes" to expel so (bury it in a committee)...

Rhiannon12866

(248,430 posts)
19. I guess we shouldn't be surprised, the Republican contingency still supports a criminal for POTUS
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:02 PM
May 2023

Bayard

(28,198 posts)
25. He is not the person his constituents voted for
Thu May 18, 2023, 09:26 AM
May 2023

A complete fraud. Definite fodder for ads and debates.

But in retaliation, one of the MAGAT crowd has introduced a measure to expel Adam Schiff--nowhere close to comparable, and a complete travesty.



COL Mustard

(7,900 posts)
20. I don't support expulsion
Wed May 17, 2023, 08:06 PM
May 2023

I'd rather have the Republicans tied to him like he's an albatross around their necks.

Bengus81

(9,674 posts)
22. If reversed does ANYONE think seven Republicans would have voted "present"?
Thu May 18, 2023, 07:56 AM
May 2023

Not a GD chance in hell. But....this shows again and again the true face of the Trump Republican party.

BumRushDaShow

(164,494 posts)
23. I *think* that the 7 were all on the Ethics Committee which is already investigating him
Thu May 18, 2023, 08:00 AM
May 2023

and which is what this resolution to block the expulsion was claiming to insist on as a "solution". I.e., "sending his case to the Ethics Committee". Since (D)s are already in the minority, their votes would have been meaningless anyway.

So I expect that is a standard "response" of members of that Committee to show "impartiality".

Bengus81

(9,674 posts)
27. Here's the Republicans on the Committee who voted NO to expel Santos
Thu May 18, 2023, 12:43 PM
May 2023

Their ALL on the Majority side of the Committee and all Republicans and ALL voted NO. Didn't I read that every Republican voted NO?

So why did the Dems take a pass??

Republicans

Chairman Michael Guest, Mississippi

David P. Joyce, Ohio

John H. Rutherford, Florida

Andrew R. Garbarino, New York

Michelle Fischbach, Minnesota

BumRushDaShow

(164,494 posts)
28. That vote was actually for a motion to send this matter to Committee
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:09 PM
May 2023
and was NOT an actual vote on the privileged resolution to expel or not.

All actions - https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/114/all-actions?overview=closed#tabs

Date All Actions

05/17/2023-5:38pm Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.

05/17/2023-5:38pm On motion to refer Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 221 - 204, 7 Present ) (Roll No. 217).

05/17/2023-5:04pm The previous question on the motion to refer was ordered without objection. (consideration: CR H2401)

05/17/2023-5:03pm Mr. D'Esposito moved to refer to Ethics
.

05/17/2023-5:02pm DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H. Res. 114.

05/17/2023-5:02pm Considered as privileged matter. (consideration: CR H2401; text: CR H2401)

05/17/2023-5:02pm QUESTION OF THE PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE - Mr. Robert Garcia (CA) rose to a question of the privileges of the House and offered the resolution. The Chair directed the Clerk to report the resolution. Upon examination of the resolution, the Chair determined that the resolution did constitute a question of the privileges of the House.

05/16/2023-2:18pm NOTIFICATION OF INTENT TO OFFER RESOLUTION - Mr. Robert Garcia (CA) notified the House of his intent to offer a privileged resolution pursuant to clause 2(a)(1) of rule IX. The Chair announced that a determination will be made at the time designated for consideration of the resolution.

02/09/2023 Referred to the House Committee on Ethics.

02/09/2023 Introduced in House


Once that motion was made, seconded, a vote was ordered, and the motion was approved, then that action deep-sixed the original, underlying resolution. If the motion had failed by a majority vote, then they would have gone on to vote on the actual resolution.

This is pretty common procedure where quite a few bills or resolutions have someone complain and request through a motion, that it be referred to Committee, and those requests are often shunted aside by failing, and they go on and do their final votes.

This was the actual resolution -

H.Res.114 - In the matter of George Santos.

By doing what they did with respect to the MOTION, Democrats on that Committee remove what would easily be a GOP talking point that they are "biased".

IOW, it's one of many "tricks" (tools) that Congress has to do their work and if they have good advisors with knowledge of Parliamentary procedure, then they can find ways to do what they want.

lees1975

(6,870 posts)
30. Keep the pressure on and the coverage going
Sat May 20, 2023, 07:43 PM
May 2023

and introduce bills until they get tired of it and do it.

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