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Omaha Steve

(109,114 posts)
Sat May 20, 2023, 06:51 AM May 2023

Kia, Hyundai settle class-action lawsuit after a rash of thefts due to security flaw

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Hyundai Motor America and Kia America said Friday they have reached a settlement to resolve a class-action lawsuit prompted by a surge in vehicle thefts.

The settlement could be valued at $200 million and covers about 9 million 2011-2022 model year Hyundai and Kia vehicles in the U.S., the companies said.

The cars are not equipped with push-button ignitions and immobilizing anti-theft devices. That has allowed thieves to easily steal them using just a screwdriver and a USB cord, creating a recent rash of auto thefts across the country.

The settlement will provide cash compensation to customers who suffered theft-related losses or damage not covered by insurance — as well as reimbursement for insurance deductibles, increased insurance premiums and other losses, Kia and Hyundai said.




Read more: https://apnews.com/article/kia-hyundai-theft-settlement-fe1e6546ec0d4d2b339885d90423d0ed

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Kia, Hyundai settle class-action lawsuit after a rash of thefts due to security flaw (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2023 OP
Amazing bucolic_frolic May 2023 #1
You enter the car and instead of inserting a key to start it, you push a button question everything May 2023 #8
We have Kia sedans COL Mustard May 2023 #10
My Daughter's car was stolen...5000 damage and her insurance said no insurance as long as Demsrule86 May 2023 #12
Seems like once again COL Mustard May 2023 #13
The rash of Kia thefts in our city (Rochester NY) EarthFirst May 2023 #2
Information of the lawsuit who to contact natetheskate May 2023 #4
Here's one: dalton99a May 2023 #6
Question, does this effect traditional key system vehicles or just the ones with push button start? cstanleytech May 2023 #16
sounds like ones with "traditional insert steel key and turn" Locrian May 2023 #18
They should have included anti-theft devices for these vehicles SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #3
Some law enforcement agencies are giving away steering wheel locks. judesedit May 2023 #5
So I'll only have to pay $700 instead of a $1000 SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #7
Read the full article judesedit May 2023 #9
Just what do you think I am missing? SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #11
Sorry. I have to use my phone for everything. Can't text the whole thing judesedit May 2023 #14
It takes 2 minutes to saw the steering wheel and remove those steering wheel locks SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #15
Of course you're right, but I'll probably try to get one of those steering wheel locks for now judesedit May 2023 #17

question everything

(52,096 posts)
8. You enter the car and instead of inserting a key to start it, you push a button
Sat May 20, 2023, 10:50 AM
May 2023

that's all I know.

Spouse's Toyota Rav4 has it. I once entered it first, with one key in my pocket. Spouse, apparently, did not grab a key but entered the car and started it by pushing the button. We stopped at one place for me to just run in and out so the engine kept running.

As soon as I left the car a message came on the dash board - no key!

Spouse was quite scared. What if I just continued to drive? I would not be able to start it again!

Well... this is why the messages flashed.

My Kia, on the other hand..

COL Mustard

(8,191 posts)
10. We have Kia sedans
Sat May 20, 2023, 12:47 PM
May 2023

Three of the same model. Two have push button ignition and the third (the newest) has a key. It's interesting, that.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
12. My Daughter's car was stolen...5000 damage and her insurance said no insurance as long as
Sat May 20, 2023, 01:55 PM
May 2023

there was no fix. Hyundai and Kia have behaved disgracefully. This didn't happen in Canada as they were not allowed to sell cars without the anti-theft features.

EarthFirst

(4,138 posts)
2. The rash of Kia thefts in our city (Rochester NY)
Sat May 20, 2023, 07:11 AM
May 2023

Has surpassed 800 this year alone at last update.

Many of them are being used in ‘smash and grab’ thefts on area retailers; typically 1-3 a week recently.

natetheskate

(3 posts)
4. Information of the lawsuit who to contact
Sat May 20, 2023, 08:49 AM
May 2023

Does anyone have the information on the lawsuit as to whom to contact if you need to file a claim. In the article it does not give that information. If anyone can past that information on, I would appreciate thanks.

cstanleytech

(28,458 posts)
16. Question, does this effect traditional key system vehicles or just the ones with push button start?
Sat May 20, 2023, 11:00 PM
May 2023

Locrian

(4,523 posts)
18. sounds like ones with "traditional insert steel key and turn"
Sun May 21, 2023, 02:23 PM
May 2023

Supposedly there is a "software update".
Have a 2103 optima and have not heard anything yet from the dealer.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
3. They should have included anti-theft devices for these vehicles
Sat May 20, 2023, 07:23 AM
May 2023

State Farm will not write new policies on any of those vehicles unless they have the anti-theft alarm system installed which will cost $800 - $1000. The software upgrade is not an acceptable alternative.

judesedit

(4,590 posts)
5. Some law enforcement agencies are giving away steering wheel locks.
Sat May 20, 2023, 09:34 AM
May 2023

It also states a rebate of $300 toward any theft control device purchased.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
7. So I'll only have to pay $700 instead of a $1000
Sat May 20, 2023, 10:18 AM
May 2023

Last edited Sat May 20, 2023, 11:18 AM - Edit history (1)

Not a very good outcome. Also, that doesn't solve the problem of being uninsurable.

judesedit

(4,590 posts)
14. Sorry. I have to use my phone for everything. Can't text the whole thing
Sat May 20, 2023, 04:03 PM
May 2023

but, saying Kia and Hyundai giving out 10's of thousands of steering wheels locks via local police departments or direct mail. I have to get one myself. Let me know if I'm reading it wrong. Thanks. Didn't mean to sound snarcky. I have to invest in a new laptop.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
15. It takes 2 minutes to saw the steering wheel and remove those steering wheel locks
Sat May 20, 2023, 09:51 PM
May 2023

To me they are worthless. I have to get the actual alarm system and kill switch for the insurance company to write my policy. The software upgrade only works if you lock the door with your FOB. If you happen to forget to lock the door, the car is still vulnerable to the same theft. I do understand it's dumb to leave your car unlocked, but obviously State Farm isn't going to leave it to chance. I expect other insurance carriers to follow suit. They will keep your car insured as long as you don't change companies or let it lapse. They will also raise the rates. I don't see 200 million as a good settlement. They should place the upgrades in the vehicles and at least split the cost which they aren't going to do.

judesedit

(4,590 posts)
17. Of course you're right, but I'll probably try to get one of those steering wheel locks for now
Sat May 20, 2023, 11:28 PM
May 2023

2 minutes longer is 2 minutes longer. My car's not pristine any more. lol. I lived on a ranch for a year and a half. Have a couple scratches from the goats trying to jump on my car. The thieves will move on to a better prize.

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