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Omaha Steve

(99,494 posts)
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 11:11 PM Jun 2023

Just days to spare, Senate gives final approval to debt ceiling deal, sending it to Biden

Source: AP

By LISA MASCARO, KEVIN FREKING, STEPHEN GROVES, FARNOUSH AMIRI and MARY CLARE JALONICK8 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Fending off a U.S. default, the Senate gave final approval late Thursday to a debt ceiling and budget cuts package, grinding into the night to wrap up work on the bipartisan deal and send it to President Joe Biden’s desk to become law before the fast-approaching deadline.

The compromise package negotiated between Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy leaves neither Republicans nor Democrats fully pleased with the outcome. But the result, after weeks of hard-fought budget negotiations, shelves the volatile debt ceiling issue that risked upending the U.S. and global economy until 2025 after the next presidential election.

Approval in the Senate on a bipartisan vote, 63-36, reflected the overwhelming House tally the day before, relying on centrists in both parties to pull the Biden-McCarthy package to passage.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said the bill’s passage means “America can breathe a sigh of relief.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/debt-limit-biden-mccarthy-senate-house-default-b8c3566b0c9cb168d9706aa256e327f7

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Just days to spare, Senate gives final approval to debt ceiling deal, sending it to Biden (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2023 OP
Hallelujah Drum Jun 2023 #1
Lawrence had it at the end of his show.63 to 36 PHEW electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #2
I'm impressed IronLionZion Jun 2023 #3
they blinked. AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #5
Schumer made it more difficult for them to stall and block. I think McConnell actully helped too. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #18
I thought some GOPer would filibuster IronLionZion Jun 2023 #19
I watched part of it up until Haw-ass's amendment BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #22
Yes, it's evident Schumer and McConnell had a backroom deal in place. patphil Jun 2023 #23
i can now have a oops in my pants? AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #4
That's how you do "politics" ZonkerHarris Jun 2023 #6
Gee, I wonder if Biden knows how to be a good politician BigmanPigman Jun 2023 #7
Some things need to change bmichaelh Jun 2023 #8
Yup Lemon Lyman Jun 2023 #9
it's not an issue when repukes are in power Skittles Jun 2023 #10
Without a doubt. C Moon Jun 2023 #11
The free dumb caucus can't be too happy. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2023 #12
Oddly the S&P 500 Futures is up only 0.23% at 2:35 AM ET. Ditto Dow Futures progree Jun 2023 #13
Was there a large drop before all the voting? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2023 #15
Looks like there were 11 amendments that were debated BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #14
The amendments were just for show - everyone knew that none could pass FBaggins Jun 2023 #20
That's irrelevant BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #21
The Republicans are still assholes for taking the country hostage over paying for what cstanleytech Jun 2023 #16
Dark Brandon Strikes Again COL Mustard Jun 2023 #17
Dem: Yes 46 No 5; Rep Yes 17, No 31 DemBlue76 Jun 2023 #24

electric_blue68

(14,818 posts)
2. Lawrence had it at the end of his show.63 to 36 PHEW
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 11:14 PM
Jun 2023

idk if they can send it over tonight to the WH or in the morning. 👍

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
22. I watched part of it up until Haw-ass's amendment
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 08:53 AM
Jun 2023

and was cracking up at Schumer, who like a coach during a ball game, was barking out the time (IIRC, it seemed that each side was given 40 seconds each to give a for or against remark and then a 10 minute block was allotted to complete each roll call vote). And the Clerk was trying to enforce that as much as possible.

Schumer: 40 seconds!!!!!

patphil

(6,150 posts)
23. Yes, it's evident Schumer and McConnell had a backroom deal in place.
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 10:15 AM
Jun 2023

The bill was raced through the Senate like a 60 meter sprint. Blink and it's over.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
7. Gee, I wonder if Biden knows how to be a good politician
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 12:46 AM
Jun 2023


This is why I wanted him to run for POTUS with Harris back in 2018, he knows his shit and has experience as well as confidence. He isn't quite FDR but I see many similarities.

bmichaelh

(373 posts)
8. Some things need to change
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 12:54 AM
Jun 2023

Some things need to change

Over the weekend, Velshi said there are only two countries with debt limits: US and Denmark.

But in Denmark, it has never been an issue

Lemon Lyman

(1,348 posts)
9. Yup
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 01:32 AM
Jun 2023

I think I read that Denmark's limit/floor/ceiling is very high limit too, basically insuring that it never becomes a problem.

progree

(10,890 posts)
13. Oddly the S&P 500 Futures is up only 0.23% at 2:35 AM ET. Ditto Dow Futures
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 02:39 AM
Jun 2023

(up 75 points).

The big jobs report is due in just 6 hours. Maybe the futures are in wait-and-see mode for that.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
15. Was there a large drop before all the voting?
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 05:07 AM
Jun 2023

I don't think "wall street" believed the default would actually happen, so no big drop. So, no big rise when the default didn't occur.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
14. Looks like there were 11 amendments that were debated
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 04:36 AM
Jun 2023
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/3746/all-actions?q=%7B%22action-by%22%3A%22Senate%22%7D

I watched the debate/vote on a couple earlier ones and obviously all failed.

This is the final vote tally on passage of the bill - https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1181/vote_118_1_00146.htm

YEAs ---63
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Boozman (R-AR)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Capito (R-WV)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cortez Masto (D-NV)
Cramer (R-ND)
Duckworth (D-IL)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ernst (R-IA)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hassan (D-NH)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Hickenlooper (D-CO)
Hirono (D-HI)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Kaine (D-VA)
Kelly (D-AZ)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lujan (D-NM)
Manchin (D-WV)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Moran (R-KS)
Mullin (R-OK)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Ossoff (D-GA)
Padilla (D-CA)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Romney (R-UT)
Rosen (D-NV)
Rounds (R-SD)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Sinema (I-AZ)
Smith (D-MN)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Van Hollen (D-MD)
Warner (D-VA)
Warnock (D-GA)
Welch (D-VT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Young (R-IN)


NAYs ---36
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blackburn (R-TN)
Braun (R-IN)
Britt (R-AL)
Budd (R-NC)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Cotton (R-AR)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Fetterman (D-PA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Graham (R-SC)
Hawley (R-MO)
Hyde-Smith (R-MS)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kennedy (R-LA)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
Lummis (R-WY)
Markey (D-MA)
Marshall (R-KS)
Merkley (D-OR)
Paul (R-KY)
Ricketts (R-NE)
Risch (R-ID)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schmitt (R-MO)
Scott (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Tuberville (R-AL)
Vance (R-OH)
Warren (D-MA)
Wicker (R-MS)


Not Voting - 1
Hagerty (R-TN)


For FYI - info and the tally for the one that Tim Kaine submitted -

6/01/2023 Senate S.Amdt.101 Amendment SA 101 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 30 - 69. Record Vote Number: 145.

06/01/2023 Senate S.Amdt.101 Amendment SA 101 proposed by Senator Kaine. To strike a provision relating to expediting completion of the Mountain Valley Pipeline.


Roll Call for Kaine's amendment - https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1181/vote_118_1_00145.htm

YEAs ---30
Baldwin (D-WI)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Cortez Masto (D-NV)
Duckworth (D-IL)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Hirono (D-HI)
Kaine (D-VA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lee (R-UT)
Lujan (D-NM)
Markey (D-MA)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murphy (D-CT)
Paul (R-KY)
Rosen (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Smith (D-MN)
Van Hollen (D-MD)
Warner (D-VA)
Warnock (D-GA)
Warren (D-MA)
Welch (D-VT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)


NAYs ---69
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blackburn (R-TN)
Boozman (R-AR)
Braun (R-IN)
Britt (R-AL)
Brown (D-OH)
Budd (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Casey (D-PA)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Cramer (R-ND)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ernst (R-IA)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fetterman (D-PA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hassan (D-NH)
Hawley (R-MO)
Hickenlooper (D-CO)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hyde-Smith (R-MS)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kelly (D-AZ)
Kennedy (R-LA)
King (I-ME)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lummis (R-WY)
Manchin (D-WV)
Marshall (R-KS)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Mullin (R-OK)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Ossoff (D-GA)
Padilla (D-CA)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Ricketts (R-NE)
Risch (R-ID)
Romney (R-UT)
Rounds (R-SD)
Rubio (R-FL)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schmitt (R-MO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Scott (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Sinema (I-AZ)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Tuberville (R-AL)
Vance (R-OH)
Wicker (R-MS)
Young (R-IN)


Not Voting - 1
Hagerty (R-TN)

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
20. The amendments were just for show - everyone knew that none could pass
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 08:09 AM
Jun 2023

Passing a single amendment would have sent it back to the House for additional action and almost certainly extended the process past the default line.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
21. That's irrelevant
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 08:24 AM
Jun 2023

They WERE submitted, there WERE statements made by BOTH sides for and against, and roll call votes WERE taken for each one - which TOOK TIME.

You can try to ignore or dismiss the fact that they actually have "procedures" to follow that are designed to slow things down (that is why they dub themselves "the deliberative body" ), regardless of the outcome, but that just shows your weak argument and continued insistence on manufacturing what you thought MY point was.

cstanleytech

(26,227 posts)
16. The Republicans are still assholes for taking the country hostage over paying for what
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 06:35 AM
Jun 2023

Congress already voted to spend.

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