Judge Cannon jumpstarts oversight of Trump classified documents case with order on security clearanc

[jgo]

Source: CNN

US District Judge Aileen Cannon issued her first order since former President Donald Trump pleaded not guilty to charges brought by special counsel Jack Smith for allegedly mishandling classified information, instructing the parties to get the ball rolling to obtain security clearances for the lawyers who will need them.

In a Thursday order, Cannon gave “all attorneys of record and forthcoming attorneys of record” a Friday deadline for getting in touch with the Justice Department’s litigation security group so that they can expedite “the necessary clearance process.”

By June 20, she wants the lawyers to file a notice confirming they have complied with her instructions.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/15/politics/trump-documents-case-cannon-security-clearances/index.html

[Phoenix61]

1. Maybe being publicly raked over the coals made an

impression on her MAGA soaked brain.

[Phoenix61]

27. Judges are exempt from public ridicule? nt

[dweller]

2. Does she

Even have the required security clearances ?
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[TexLaProgressive]

4. This!

[2naSalit]

5. Doubt it.

[johnnyfins]

10. Seems like a dumb question

But does she? Has she ever dealt with classified info before(besides appointing a special master in this very case). Im sure shes seeing that Jack Smith photo in her sleep. 😄

[mountain grammy]

16. Ha.. great question!

[getagrip_already]

17. I dont think federal Judges need one....

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Something I heard during the last kerfuffle. But not positive.

[Ford_Prefect]

21. Everyone who views restricted material MUST perforce have clearance. It maybe part of vetting for

the office so to speak but everyone who is view such documents HAS to be cleared to do so. No buts, no cuts, no coconuts.

[carpetbagger]

24. Not judges, it's about separation of powers. Citation below

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title18a-node16-section9&num=0&edition=prelim

18 USC appendix 9: security procedures under CIPA. It's in section 4 of the procedures.

[Ford_Prefect]

31. That is quite concerning in this case particularly. She was shoved onto the court with little

experience and no proper vetting considering her place on the federal bench. Judge Cannon seems to lack a reasonable understanding of her responsibilities or awareness of the distinction between personal opinion and judicial probity. Never mind her grasp of the separation of powers between her office and those responsible for determining and performing security over documents such as those at the heart of this case.

No person appointed by the court or designated for service therein will be given access to any classified information in the custody of the court, unless such person has received the appropriate security clearance and unless access to such information is necessary for the performance of an official function. A security clearance for justices and other Article III judges is not required.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title18a-node16-section9&num=0&edition=prelim

[AllyCat]

33. That's what I was wondering!

She’s a shill for the fascists. No scruples. Would turn this over in a heartbeat if it got her more power.

[carpetbagger]

37. It's not as bad...

There's pages of stuff about how to handle the documents, and everyone else needs clearance. This is a necessary evil. Imagine if Trump were reelected and went after Biden. I think he knows now what Nixon knew before, how important it is to have a patsy as AG to undercut checks on power. With loyalists in top positions, they could choose Cannon as the judge by denying or revoking security clearance for other judges.

[FBaggins]

26. Untrue

Members of Congress and Article III judges don't need security clearance. They are members of co-equal branches of government.

If the executive branch doesn't want a judge to see classified material... then they can't use it at trial. Or, if it's introduced by the defense, they risk losing.

[dweller]

22. I mean, like this

Jack Smith: Your honor I would like to introduce 31 articles as Exhibits 40 through Exhibit 71 concerning the documents of top secret information found in the Maralago storerooms … but as you can’t read them, let me just point out they are deep doo-doo info…

Kise: OBJECTION !1!

(silence)

Judge: As to what counselor ?

Kise: He said doo-doo …

Judge: Overrude …

Jack Smith: Your honor?

Judge: you said doo-doo …

Jack Smith to aide, aside: Get the 11th Circuit on the line ….

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[Alexander Of Assyria]

3. The routine grinding, meticulous plodding of the rule of law...isn't it magnificent?

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

23. Elizabeth Holmes was charged by federal prosecutors in 2018, finally convicted in 2022 just now jail

Yeah, like that

[Alexander Of Assyria]

32. That's how presumption of innocence, right to appeal, proof beyond Twitter doubt, works!

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The whole package is rule of law! Time required isn’t a flaw, it’s a feature.

Social media law school graduates everywhere,… such alumni wants everything to have happened yesterday.

[onenote]

34. Great post

[Alexander Of Assyria]

36. 👍 bad enough the corporations keep dragging out their staff lawyers to comment on complex

criminal law and procedure, it’s like they not really trying to be accurate!

Keep the masses ignorant, manipulate as desired!

Social media was a god sent gift for propagandists..corporate America has many friends in corporate media thankful…for the gift of dark ad money also, by the bushels! It’s connected.

Who cares who’s sending the cash, devil himself, don’t matters, all cash taken, domestic or foreign…make sure it’s clean!?

Chief inspector Smith is one scary incorruptible due!

[jmowreader]

6. In a case of this nature, this is a proper course of action

As highly classified as the evidence is, everyone who comes close to it needs a very heavy security clearance.

I know Cannon is a Trump appointee, but Trump hasn't done all that well with his judge cohort. Several of "his judges" have slapped him down.

[captain queeg]

7. A "secret" clearance is no big deal.

I had one when I working. I read there are about 2 million holders of that level of security clearance. We all knows TFG didn’t give a flying f*** about clearances.

[SouthernDem4ever]

8. Pretty much the reason he's in his current predicament

[captain queeg]

12. I think I remember that Jarad at least was turned down for a clearance

I’m sure there were plenty of folks who didn’t qualify for a clearance but the president could authorize one for anybody. Looking back at all the corruption that went on since day, it’s hard to believe he’s skated this long.

[WinstonSmith4740]

18. Both he and the Princess didn't qualify.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-clearances-idUSKCN1RD2HU
Guess who intervened. Oh, he used a front man, but I remember reading at the time he basically threw his normal temper tantrum and bullied the folks in charge into giving them a clearance they couldn't qualify for.

[ancianita]

9. I predict that Todd Blanche, facing a malpractice suit, won't be given classification clearance.

TODD BLANCHE AND HIS FORMER LAW FIRM, CADWALADER, WICKERSHAM & TAFT, ARE BEING SUED FOR MALPRACTICE BY TWIN BROTHERS ADAM KAPLAN AND DANIEL KAPLAN, WHO ALLEGE BLANCHE AND CADWALADER FORGED THEIR SIGNATURES ON A RETAINER AGREEMENT AND “SEVERELY” OVERBILLED THEM WHILE WHILE THEY WERE THE SUBJECT OF A U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION PROBE.

THE KAPLAN BROTHERS ALSO REPORTEDLY ALLEGE THEIR FORMER ATTORNEYS ARE NOW REFUSING TO TURN OVER THEIR CASE FILE TO THEIR NEW LAWYERS.

https://politizoom.com/trumps-top-legal-gun-just-got-sued-for-malpractice/

[dchill]

13. Heh. Just deserts.

[onenote]

35. An unproven set of allegations in a malpractice suit

won’t prevent Blanche from obtaining the necessary security clearance.

This is particularly the case when the lawsuit is being brought by a pair of grifters who have a history of filing frivolous lawsuits.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-lawyer-legal-headache-todd-blanche-1807015?amp=1

[rsdsharp]

11. As Andrew Weissmann said, this is kinda good news/bad news.

The good is that she is demonstrating something of a sense of urgency by a very quick timeline — tomorrow. The bad — how do “forthcoming attorneys of record” (attorneys who are not yet in the case, and may not even be contacted until sometime in the future) comply with this order? And second — she’s not recusing.

[ancianita]

14. Yep. Moreover, bad news is she's allowing clearance to anyone called "forthcoming,"

knowing the whole process will be slowed by Kise who'll take forever to "vet" any attorneys. His motions to delay will be based on not yet having a defense team, and she won't do anything about that.

Which could mean that even the pre-trial hearing will be delayed. More bad news for the Smith team? Maybe.

[DallasNE]

15. There Is No Way That Trump Doesn't Appeal This Ruling

Directly to the 11th Circuit.

[onenote]

20. There is no way he does.

Care to make a wager?

[wnylib]

29. Why would he? It's a built in delay tactic for him.

[FBaggins]

30. There's no reason for him to appeal, but it also isn't a delaying tactic

I can't imagine a federal district judge doing anything other than this in a criminal case that necessarily involves classified information.

IOW - it doesn't delay the process. It is the process. A delay would be if the judge gave them three months to get that step done (instead of a week) and paused other proceedings until that time.

[republianmushroom]

25. 28 months and counting

[Duppers]

28. K & R