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jgo

(1,021 posts)
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:44 PM Jun 2023

Bill Barr condemns alleged Trump conduct, but says "I don't like the idea of a former president serv

Source: CBS News

Bill Barr condemns alleged Trump conduct, but says "I don't like the idea of a former president serving time":

Former Attorney General Bill Barr has been highly critical of former President Trump's conduct in the classified documents case, but doesn't believe Trump should go to prison for the alleged crimes.

"I don't like the idea of a former president serving time in prison," Barr told "Face the Nation" on Sunday when asked whether Trump should serve a prison sentence if he is convicted.

But Barr did not excuse the alleged crimes outlined by the Justice Department.

"This is not a circumstance where he's the victim or this is government overreach," Barr said. "He provoked this whole problem himself. Yes, he's been the victim of unfair witch hunts in the past, but that doesn't obviate the fact that he's also a fundamentally flawed person who engages in reckless conduct that leads to situations, calamitous situations, like this, which are very disruptive and hurt any political cause he's associated with."




Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-barr-trump-investigations-classified-documents-january-6-fulton-county-face-the-nation/

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Bill Barr condemns alleged Trump conduct, but says "I don't like the idea of a former president serv (Original Post) jgo Jun 2023 OP
Bart is worried about his own liability. dchill Jun 2023 #1
THIS. My first thought exactly. KPN Jun 2023 #59
Me three. He had to have known about fake electors plot etc. While it was being planned. mjvpi Jun 2023 #61
Beg to differ. no_hypocrisy Jun 2023 #2
if the former pres. committed crimes and was convicted? Too fucking bad. He'll serve time like ANY CurtEastPoint Jun 2023 #3
Donald Trump will never stop committing crimes unless he is locked up. tanyev Jun 2023 #4
So if a former president murdered someone, would Barr "not like the idea" Ocelot II Jun 2023 #5
So this FUCKER could have done something long ago. BUT bluestarone Jun 2023 #6
"One man is above the law." dpibel Jun 2023 #7
If no one is above the law, and it is proven beyond reasonable doubt Jarqui Jun 2023 #8
I don't like the idea of a former President serving time, either, but if he's done the crime . . . Journeyman Jun 2023 #9
If Nixon would have been put in prison maybe we doc03 Jun 2023 #10
I don't like the idea of a former president mzmolly Jun 2023 #11
Nobody really *likes* the idea of a former President serving time... SeattleVet Jun 2023 #12
Do the crime, do the time Novara Jun 2023 #13
I don't like the idea of anyone being above the law IronLionZion Jun 2023 #14
Nobody questions Barr on this witch hunt quote. LisaM Jun 2023 #15
Is he repeating the line that got him the job as US Attorney General? 70sEraVet Jun 2023 #16
How about a former AG? mahina Jun 2023 #17
I don't like the idea of a former president breaking the law. Justice Jun 2023 #18
I also don't like the idea of a former president serving time. Lucky Luciano Jun 2023 #19
Re: Bill Barr's opinion lonely bird Jun 2023 #20
Oh. Phuck. 3auld6phart Jun 2023 #21
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time - Yeah, don't do it. eppur_se_muova Jun 2023 #22
A former president is still just a person and subject to the same laws as the rest of us. Lonestarblue Jun 2023 #23
backwater beat.raven Jun 2023 #24
Except that he's a criminal. He tried to overthrow the government. He stole government secrets. Initech Jun 2023 #25
WGAF what he likes. 🖕🏾 live love laugh Jun 2023 #26
I don't like the idea of a former president serving time, either. Gore1FL Jun 2023 #27
Barr's statement is the first draft of the "Trump is unelectable" narrative Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #28
Unless the president is black or a woman, he added. Johonny Jun 2023 #29
Of course he doesn't want to see a Republican serving Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #30
I stopped reading at, "he's been the victim of unfair witch hunts in the past" PSPS Jun 2023 #31
I don't like VeryProgressive Jun 2023 #32
Yo Bill, SpamWyzer Jun 2023 #33
"...a fundamentally flawed person who engages in reckless conduct." Grins Jun 2023 #34
Well, too bad, Bill. I like the ide... 3catwoman3 Jun 2023 #35
Billy doesn't want Donnie to serve time. Hey Billy..... tough luck cream puff. You aren't the boss Trueblue1968 Jun 2023 #36
I almost guarantee you if convicted, he wont serve time. Almost. oldsoftie Jun 2023 #37
Fuck off. A lacky to the end. nt Javaman Jun 2023 #38
I love the idea stage left Jun 2023 #39
You don't LIKE? Lulu KC Jun 2023 #40
I'm AOK with criminal presidents, current or otherwise, going to prison for their crimes. Solly Mack Jun 2023 #41
The gall of these morally bankrupt monsters Ponietz Jun 2023 #42
Barr, "Yes, he's been the victim of unfair witch hunts in the past, ..... " Botany Jun 2023 #43
+1000 Kid Berwyn Jun 2023 #53
He probably likes the idea of former Attorneys General serving time in prison even less. Marcuse Jun 2023 #44
Like the old saying goes... BlueKentuckyGirl Jun 2023 #45
he can cop a plea. but that would mean saying what he did was wrong. so that will never happen.... ZonkerHarris Jun 2023 #46
This wasn't a political crime like Watergate IbogaProject Jun 2023 #47
Would Bill prefer the Ceausescu treatment? Kennah Jun 2023 #48
Is there part of Barr's quote missing? madeup64 Jun 2023 #49
The GOP has always looked for ways to bend the laws... C Moon Jun 2023 #50
Barr is wrong. TFG's conduct isn't reckless. The GOP's conduct is reckless Raven123 Jun 2023 #51
So, Barr is in favor of a two-tiered justice system? 🍑🕳 Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #52
OK Bill, how about you take his place in prison then SouthernDem4ever Jun 2023 #54
May he receive everything he deserves. niyad Jun 2023 #55
Bill Barr abused his power as AG and protected Trump and prevented investigations into him neohippie Jun 2023 #56
I, on the other hand, love the idea of Mr Barr serving time... malthaussen Jun 2023 #57
I really LIKE the idea of Bill Barr serving time. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2023 #58
Why, why, why? ShazzieB Jun 2023 #60
Judge Cannon will make sure his fat ass won't see the inside of a jail cell. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2023 #62

dchill

(42,660 posts)
1. Bart is worried about his own liability.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:47 PM
Jun 2023

That's why he resigned at the very end of the term.

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
61. Me three. He had to have known about fake electors plot etc. While it was being planned.
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 02:00 PM
Jun 2023

Why didn’t he, as the top cop, put a stop to it.

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
2. Beg to differ.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:48 PM
Jun 2023

If anything would prove that this country is a democracy, it's allowing the judicial system examine evidence, a jury convicting, and a guilty defendant serving time, no matter who s/he is, and that includes a former President.

There's a part of me that would like this principle to extend to a sitting President if need be.

CurtEastPoint

(20,024 posts)
3. if the former pres. committed crimes and was convicted? Too fucking bad. He'll serve time like ANY
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:49 PM
Jun 2023

American would. Or should.

tanyev

(49,297 posts)
4. Donald Trump will never stop committing crimes unless he is locked up.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:49 PM
Jun 2023

Maybe not even then.

That’s how he gets away with so much. By the time a law enforcement agency comes after him for something, he’s already done hundreds more.

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
5. So if a former president murdered someone, would Barr "not like the idea"
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:53 PM
Jun 2023

of him going to prison, either? Once a person has been president, is he thereafter completely safe from ever having to serve a prison sentence no matter what he did? What if, for example, Bush or Obama were charged with killing a dozen people with an axe? They've been out of office for years, but they're former presidents, so even if they were found guilty would they just get to go home? Why is a former president special? Or is just TFG special? Has Barr still got his head up TFG's ass?

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
6. So this FUCKER could have done something long ago. BUT
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:54 PM
Jun 2023

Has decided to treat TFG to be ABOVE THE LAW! (just like we all knew) FUCK all of these ASSHOLES.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
8. If no one is above the law, and it is proven beyond reasonable doubt
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:58 PM
Jun 2023

that Trump broke the law and for doing that, he falls within the guidelines for sentencing to prison, then he has to go to prison.

If all that is true and he doesn't go to prison, then the POTUS is above the law.

I was a protestor of Nixon. They made the mistake of pardoning him.

Trump is alleged to have broken all kinds of laws. He needs to pay the price so that future Presidents think twice.

Journeyman

(15,449 posts)
9. I don't like the idea of a former President serving time, either, but if he's done the crime . . .
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:59 PM
Jun 2023

he should do the time!

doc03

(39,086 posts)
10. If Nixon would have been put in prison maybe we
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 06:59 PM
Jun 2023

wouldn't be dealing with Trump today.

SeattleVet

(5,903 posts)
12. Nobody really *likes* the idea of a former President serving time...
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:06 PM
Jun 2023

but, here we are!

tRumplethinskin brought it all on himself. Barr supported him through some of the moist delusional crap he pulled. Now he's worried that it looks bad?

IronLionZion

(51,269 posts)
14. I don't like the idea of anyone being above the law
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:11 PM
Jun 2023

especially when these people want others to be locked up for much less

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
15. Nobody questions Barr on this witch hunt quote.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:12 PM
Jun 2023

When has Trump EVER been the target of anything remotely comparable to a witch hunt? He's admitted to or done everything he's been accused of.

Lucky Luciano

(11,863 posts)
19. I also don't like the idea of a former president serving time.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:27 PM
Jun 2023

I prefer that they conduct themselves in the bounds of law and not outside those bounds.

Breaking the law which holds enormous public trust should open up double or triple liability.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
21. Oh. Phuck.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:38 PM
Jun 2023

Dang, I thought noone wassbovethelaw. That phat phhuckin orange slob. Is responsible for many deaths, dragging is sjit stained ass, when Co vid hit NAmerica, and you can be gawd damn certain
he sold for cash the names of agentsof ithe NSA&CIA.. And you Barr are just as guilty along with many Republican filth. You bastards should be facing time with him. Trying to cover for that orange filth.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
23. A former president is still just a person and subject to the same laws as the rest of us.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:43 PM
Jun 2023

He is not a king and he should serve time in prison if he commits crimes. I think Nixon should have gone to hail also.

beat.raven

(22 posts)
24. backwater
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:50 PM
Jun 2023

Yeah, and Barr had his oar in the water pulling for tRump along with the rest.
Nobody ought to give him air time. Now he's just backwatering as fast as he can since the rapids are in sight.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
25. Except that he's a criminal. He tried to overthrow the government. He stole government secrets.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 07:53 PM
Jun 2023

What part of that do the MAGAs not understand?

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
27. I don't like the idea of a former president serving time, either.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 08:09 PM
Jun 2023

That's one of many reasons I would never vote for a Trump-like candidate.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
28. Barr's statement is the first draft of the "Trump is unelectable" narrative
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 08:10 PM
Jun 2023

That will ramp up to a fever pitch by the time of the first GOP debate in August.

Johonny

(26,179 posts)
29. Unless the president is black or a woman, he added.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 08:13 PM
Jun 2023

I'm pretty sure Barr excused more white collar crime than any man in the last 60 years.

Baitball Blogger

(52,348 posts)
30. Of course he doesn't want to see a Republican serving
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 08:17 PM
Jun 2023

Time. These fucking political lawyers cover for their crooked Republican politicians so they can play things over the edge and let them get away with it without facing consequences.

VeryProgressive

(77 posts)
32. I don't like
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 08:31 PM
Jun 2023

I don't like a president committing insurrection and most likely stealing classified documents to sell to foreign agents. If he is found to be guilty of any of these crimes, it is out duty to incarcerate him. It really has nothing to do with liking or not liking it. For posterity's sake we have to hold him accountable.

 

SpamWyzer

(385 posts)
33. Yo Bill,
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 08:32 PM
Jun 2023

how do you feel about his corrupt AG going to jail in his place? "...victim of witch hunts?" No."... he's also a fundamentally flawed person who engages in reckless conduct that leads to situations, calamitous situations, like this, which are very disruptive and hurt any political cause he's associated with." Oh yeh, F-Off Bill.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
34. "...a fundamentally flawed person who engages in reckless conduct."
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 08:41 PM
Jun 2023

You mean like Jeffrey Epstein? You could say he is “fundamentally flawed,” too. Not to leave out Jeffrey Dahmer.

How many people are in prison, by your DoJ, for doing far worse

Trueblue1968

(19,251 posts)
36. Billy doesn't want Donnie to serve time. Hey Billy..... tough luck cream puff. You aren't the boss
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 09:10 PM
Jun 2023

YOUR LITTLE BUDDY IS GOING DOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN (Down).



 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
37. I almost guarantee you if convicted, he wont serve time. Almost.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 09:38 PM
Jun 2023

They'll give him probation.

stage left

(3,306 posts)
39. I love the idea
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 10:34 PM
Jun 2023

of this President serving time. There actually should have been several Republican Presidents serving time, starting with Nixon.

Solly Mack

(96,943 posts)
41. I'm AOK with criminal presidents, current or otherwise, going to prison for their crimes.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 10:54 PM
Jun 2023

There are those who want the protection of the law without the consequences that come with breaking the law - and that's just bullshit.

I know I wish I could commit a crime (like speeding) and get away with it by labeling my crime "policy".

Next time I run a "Stop" sign I'm going to tell the cops I got a memo from a lawyer saying it's OK.

Oh, I'm well aware of how well either will go over.

Ponietz

(4,331 posts)
42. The gall of these morally bankrupt monsters
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 10:55 PM
Jun 2023

What fucking lawless lost world do they live in? Louis XVI was a saint compared to their boy. I’ve had enough of them.

Botany

(77,324 posts)
43. Barr, "Yes, he's been the victim of unfair witch hunts in the past, ..... "
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 11:01 PM
Jun 2023

Fine Bill name 'em. Barr should end up in prison w/Trump.

Marcuse

(9,010 posts)
44. He probably likes the idea of former Attorneys General serving time in prison even less.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 11:01 PM
Jun 2023
 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
46. he can cop a plea. but that would mean saying what he did was wrong. so that will never happen....
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:03 AM
Jun 2023

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
47. This wasn't a political crime like Watergate
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:56 AM
Jun 2023

This was obstruction of an investigation into his illegal use if national defense related secret documents.

madeup64

(258 posts)
49. Is there part of Barr's quote missing?
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 02:36 AM
Jun 2023

The full quote has to be: "I don't like the idea of a former president serving time and although many are unaware I made sure both Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr. wouldn't have to when I helped cover up Iran/Contra."

Fuck Bill Barr.

C Moon

(13,643 posts)
50. The GOP has always looked for ways to bend the laws...
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 03:05 AM
Jun 2023

now they aren't even bothering with bending....they are just criminals breaking the laws.

Raven123

(7,797 posts)
51. Barr is wrong. TFG's conduct isn't reckless. The GOP's conduct is reckless
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 05:44 AM
Jun 2023

Recklessness means one cares not about the consequences. TFG knows the consequences and stated as much in his campaign speeches as quoted in the indictment. He knew what he was doing and in my opinion was another step in a long line line actions consistent with his “I can shoot someone and not be prosecuted “ philosophy that the GOP endorsed when they elected him to office, supported his conduct while in office and continue to support by their silence or, as Barr illustrates in his interviews, stating that TFG should be treated differently than anyone else who commits the same crime. That’s reckless.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
54. OK Bill, how about you take his place in prison then
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 08:50 AM
Jun 2023

for how you obstructed justice with you handling of the Mueller report.

neohippie

(1,267 posts)
56. Bill Barr abused his power as AG and protected Trump and prevented investigations into him
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 08:56 AM
Jun 2023

Bill Barr, should be disbarred. Justice should be blind to who a person is, or what power they have, but not blinded as to be forbidden to investigate someone because of the office they hold or held.

Barr, abused the office of AG to protect Trump like he was his client. He has whitewashed other investigations and outright prevented anyone into investigating Trump's ties to Russia and lied about the Mueller investigation. Barr threw justice under the bus, and believes that the President should be above the law and has demonstrated this time and time again.

I think Barr's actions while he was AG all need to be investigated for his blatant obstruction and distortion of facts

malthaussen

(18,572 posts)
57. I, on the other hand, love the idea of Mr Barr serving time...
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 10:11 AM
Jun 2023

... for aiding and abetting TFG at every turn. Dude, I don't forget you saying that the winners decide who broke the laws.

-- Mal

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
60. Why, why, why?
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 01:21 PM
Jun 2023

WHY did he have to throw in that line about Trump being the "victim of unfair witch hunts in the past"? *groan*

Shut up, Bill. There were no witch hunts, and you know it, you lying liar.

62. Judge Cannon will make sure his fat ass won't see the inside of a jail cell.
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 03:53 PM
Jun 2023

At most he'll get house arrest, so long as he's at one of his "homes" at a T***p resort. Of course, being a former president means he can go out for campaign-related events. The day after he loses the 2024 election he'll claim fraud and declare himself both winner and candidate for 2028. Wash-rinse-repeat.

When he dies he'll insist in being entombed in a huge gold-festooned mausoleum built -- are you ready? -- in the center of Arlington cemetery.

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