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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 10:56 AM Jun 2023

Stalled contract jeopardizes relations between new Disney governing body and firefighters

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Source: Yahoo! News / AP

(AP) — After appointees of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis took over Walt Disney World’s governing district earlier this year, its firefighters were among the few employees who publicly welcomed them with open arms. But that warm relationship is in jeopardy as a new district administrator has reopened negotiations on a contract that was approved last month by the unionized firefighters, promising pay raises and more manpower.

A vote on the contract originally was targeted for last month during a meeting of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District board of supervisors. But it was never brought up, and it did not appear on an agenda released ahead of the next meeting scheduled for Wednesday. Under the three-year contract proposal overwhelmingly approved by 200 firefighters and first responders, annual starting pay for firefighters would increase to $65,000, up from $55,000. It also promised hiring up to three dozen firefighters and paramedics.

At several meetings since the DeSantis-appointed supervisors took their seats this spring, Jon Shirey, who leads the firefighters’ union, praised them for visiting firefighters at their stations around the 39 square-mile Disney World property. The firefighters looked forward to collaborating with the new supervisors and administrator after years of clashing with their Disney-supporting predecessors, and viewed the appointments as “an opportunity for a fresh start,” he said. “Almost overnight, a change occurred that we have never experienced — transparency, open dialogue, the ability to sit down and have our issues heard and felt listened to,” Shirey told board members last month.“

You have been able to build bridges that were long burned.” The feeling was mutual, with board chairman Martin Garcia saying last month that the supervisors were working with the firefighters to resolve their issues. Even so, Garcia made clear that the firefighters weren’t the only district employees the board wanted to support. “We also need to let the (other) employees know, we love you, too. We care about you. We love you as much as we love our firefighters,” Garcia said. But the delay in approving the contract has alienated the firefighters’ union, which last year endorsed the gubernatorial reelection campaign of DeSantis, who recently launched a campaign for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/stalled-contract-jeopardizes-relations-between-134142640.html



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Stalled contract jeopardizes relations between new Disney governing body and firefighters (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 OP
Any union member edhopper Jun 2023 #1
👍 WmChris Jun 2023 #3
And so it begins............ DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #10
In western PA & east OH I've seen a ton of "Union for Trump" signs Orrex Jun 2023 #9
$65,000?? LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #2
"But We Didn't Think That the Leopard Deep State Witch Jun 2023 #4
It would not surprise me in the least BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #5
Maybe even try to privatize firefighters...I would not put them past republicans. Escurumbele Jun 2023 #6
Yup although with the current arrangement BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #7
AFL-CIO should offer/require history training for members. Jakes Progress Jun 2023 #8
I've seen this a number of times with firefighters lakercub Jun 2023 #11
After a review by forum hosts, locking........ Omaha Steve Jun 2023 #12

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
1. Any union member
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 11:03 AM
Jun 2023

that supports the GOP are cutting their own throats. It's a wonder they do it so often.

WmChris

(741 posts)
3. 👍
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 11:25 AM
Jun 2023

The GQP has never been friendly to unions except by pretending just long enough to grab a few votes. They then go right back to back stabbing.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
10. And so it begins............
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:54 PM
Jun 2023

"First they came for the.............."

As the dominos begin to fall, maybe all these DeSantis/Trump lovers will begin to wake up to the fact that Many/Most Republican voters are in the Republican Party's "sights" also..........

Think about Trump's idiotic Trade dealings with China that permanently wiped out countless U.S. farmers here in the U.S.

Think about Ronnie's overnight trashing of "PATCO" so many years ago, which quite literally cascaded thru Unions through out the U.S.

The Republican's Wet Dream is to annihilate and obliterate the Unions, especially any government Union, Postal Workers, etc etc etc

Orrex

(67,112 posts)
9. In western PA & east OH I've seen a ton of "Union for Trump" signs
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:36 PM
Jun 2023

Mostly during the 2020 campaign, but they're still around.

Same with "Veterans for Trump."

Just shows that racism and bigotry are more important to these KKKultists than their own livelihoods or military service.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
2. $65,000??
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 11:05 AM
Jun 2023

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
4. "But We Didn't Think That the Leopard
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 11:45 AM
Jun 2023

Would eat OUR faces!"

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
5. It would not surprise me in the least
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 11:51 AM
Jun 2023

if at some point, this board pursues non-union firefighters and offers that same pay for some new group, including any in the current union, IF they agree to drop out of their union as a condition of employment - take it or leave it.

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
6. Maybe even try to privatize firefighters...I would not put them past republicans.
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:04 PM
Jun 2023

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
7. Yup although with the current arrangement
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:13 PM
Jun 2023

it seems they might already be "private" since they service a special "district" which is the park and its surrounding properties, and don't appear to be a part of the Orlando or Kissimmee, etc. fire departments.

Jakes Progress

(11,213 posts)
8. AFL-CIO should offer/require history training for members.
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:32 PM
Jun 2023

As mentioned above, any union member who backs the gop is not bright. Either their tribal hatred of Democrats fogs their mind or they simply are ignorant of the history of the union movement. I think it is that their ignorance lets the hate messages of the gop work.

lakercub

(670 posts)
11. I've seen this a number of times with firefighters
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:55 PM
Jun 2023

Locally here in Colorado, they tend to run real conservative, which is nuts. They are a public service so conservatives will do everything they can to underfund them (despite their "love" of first responders) and they tend to be unionized and we all know how the conservatives feel about that. Conservative government, and worse, the GQP, stand implacably against pretty much everything that would help firefighters do their jobs and yet so many lean right. I'd say it's weird, but about 50 percent of the population seems to suffer from the same disconnect with reality.

Omaha Steve

(109,234 posts)
12. After a review by forum hosts, locking........
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 01:38 PM
Jun 2023

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