Alan Grayson files for U.S. Senate run in 2024 against Rick Scott
Source: Florida Politics
Former U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson appears poised to make another run for U.S. Senate.
The Orlando Democrat filed to challenge U.S. Sen. Rick Scott, a Naples Republican running for a second term.
There remains no mention of a new candidacy on Graysons social media pages. His last posts date back to a run for U.S. House last year, when he lost the Democratic Primary in Floridas 10th Congressional District to now-U.S. Rep. Maxwell Alejandro Frost.
Grayson has run for Senate before. He vacated his U.S. House seat in 2016 to run against U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio. But he didnt have support at the time from party leadership. Then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid lambasted Grayson as having no moral compass and said he wanted the Orlando Democrat to lose the Democratic Primary. That wish came true in August 2016, when Grayson lost the nomination to then-U.S. Rep. Patrick Murphy. Murphy went on to lose to Rubio.
Read more: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/620006-alan-grayson-files-for-u-s-senate-run-in-2024-against-rick-scott/
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,249 posts)RandySF
(60,621 posts)He keeps coming back.
Baitball Blogger
(46,866 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)triangulation, DLC style candidates that are tepid centrists at best with a few exceptions. . .
Firebrand GOP v. tepid centrist with "we'll work together." At least Grayson stands for something.
RandySF
(60,621 posts)You want that representing our party?
AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)then they can elect anything.
If the voters of Georgia can elect a racist bigot like Greene and Arizona like Gosar. . .the voters are to blame.
BTW, who is Scott Grayson?
RandySF
(60,621 posts)gay texan
(2,512 posts)sheshe2
(84,246 posts)Never really liked the guy.
2naSalit
(87,303 posts)I think he was here on occasion.
sheshe2
(84,246 posts)Rhiannon12866
(208,111 posts)MadameButterfly
(1,156 posts)Are we against Progressives on DU?
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,619 posts)brooklynite
(95,351 posts)I've met him one-on-one, from the LAST time he wanted to be a Senator. Beyond having no particular attributes to recommend him (other than making speeches that his fan base likes), he had a questionable relationship with his previous wife, and has lost all of his recent political forays. He also has very little personal appeal to the average voter. When I met with him, I came away thinking that 1) he think's he's brilliant and 2) he wants to convince ME that he's brilliant.
speak easy
(9,383 posts)2) he wants to convince ME that he's brilliant"
How did your meeting with God go?
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)If it makes you feel better, I also wasn't impressed with Dennis Kucinich when we met.
Polybius
(15,608 posts)Some are, some aren't.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,619 posts)Alan Grayson just needs to go the fuck away.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)sheshe2
(84,246 posts)He has a questionable history of abuse, with his wife and shoving reporters away.
Amid domestic abuse allegations, Alan Grayson loses support, and his cool
TALLAHASSEE Liberal groups supporting U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson are distancing themselves from the Orlando Democrat's campaign for U.S. Senate after domestic violence reports, some dating to the 1990s, surfaced Tuesday.
The Progressive Change Campaign Committee and Democracy for America rescinded their endorsements of Grayson, citing reports that he hit his ex-wife Lolita Grayson on four occasions dating to 1994 when the couple lived in northern Virginia. The reports were first published Tuesday by Politico. Later, when a reporter from that media outlet confronted Grayson at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, the burly lawmaker appears to push past the smaller reporter, refusing to answer questions, video footage shows.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/amid-domestic-abuse-allegations-alan-grayson-loses-support-and-his-cool/2286926/
Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)soldierant
(7,047 posts)to do very well in FLorida.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)The same can be said for states like West Virginia. Democrats must think strategically rather than emotionally. I believe it's better to have a conservative "D" in our column instead of ANY candidate who had to the "R" majority. No? Why choose to lose with the "best" and "perfect" candidate when we can win with someone that will at least help to give us a majority. These purity contests and "best Democrat" litmus tests are holding us back and giving the advantage to the GOP.
soldierant
(7,047 posts)I'm in Colorado myself, but I have contacts in Florida. When I thought Chrlie Crist was a good candidate, not far left, just a nice, dignified, common sense candidate, Democrats were saying, "Couldn't they come up with anyone better than a party hack?" If Dems are seeking inspiration in order to go out and vote, perhaps it would be a better idea to at least attempt to inspire them. As to how - that I can't say. I don't know what inspires FLorida Democrats, othr than maybe reproductive rights. That seems to be what inactive Dems I know in Florida are working on now.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)Candidates may seek their party nomination by being wildly extreme and throwing red-meat to their most conservative (or most liberal) party members, but in the end, they mostly tack back to the center because they'll still need those votes too. Your quote about "party hack" suggests to me that people who say such things are their own worst enemy. We saw the same thing with Hillary not getting votes because she wasn't "liberal enough" therefore the party needed to be taught a lesson with a protest-vote/no-vote/third-party-vote/etc. Running extreme left candidates to get the "inactive dem" voters may seem like a good idea at first blush, but how many centrist/independent votes does that end up losing? Is there a net-gain or a net-loss.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 23, 2023, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)
all the way up to party leader President Obama felt we needed him out of office. It wasn't because of progressive ideology. Our caucuses are full of committed progressives, including a lot of ardent Progressives.
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FloridaBlues
(4,032 posts)RandySF
(60,621 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)So both have committed crimes.
IronLionZion
(45,780 posts)not sure our party has a lot of good candidates in Florida
FakeNoose
(33,121 posts)If another Democrat wins instead ... well that's how the cookie crumbles.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,951 posts)in a storm as the saying goes. I will vote Howdy Doody if he's a Democrat.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,533 posts)And called them out for being the scum that they are.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,533 posts)I call them idiots and worse on their social media accounts, it doesnt really have the same effect.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)Grayson is the Congressional equivalent of a meme. He makes people who agree with him feel good for a moment, and doesn't change anyone else's opinion.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,533 posts)Nowhere near enough but he certainly pushed the ball along.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)Certainly the voters in Florida didn't think so.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,533 posts)Florida is a right wing cesspool. 🤷🏾?♂️
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)n 2016, Grayson decided not to run for reelection to his House seat in order to run for the U.S. Senate. He was defeated 59%18% in the Democratic primary by fellow Representative Patrick Murphy, who went on to lose the general election to incumbent Republican Marco Rubio. In 2018, Grayson entered the race for the 9th congressional district. He was defeated in the Democratic primary by his successor Darren Soto, 66%34%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Grayson#20132017
canuckledragger
(1,674 posts)And why they went so hard after him. republicans and accountability are like vampires and holy water.
mahina
(17,865 posts)Universal single payer health care.
If not him then who better?
Andrew Gillum just got done with their bs.
Good luck Florida and everyone.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)He never came up with policies or political strategies to address those issues.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,405 posts)Why does this always happen?
AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)Firebrand v. Firebrand.
I'll support Grayson until the end. Who do you want to see run against Scott? Another triangulating DLC type that is, at best, a tepid centrist.
When did DU become hostile to liberals?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Maybe that practically the entire liberal Democratic Party apparatus needed him out of elective office provides a clue that he's not functionally all that liberal? They normally scrabble to protect all the liberals voters will elect.
There are IL-liberal people on the left, too, and they pretty reliably cause problems that the Democratic Party has to deal with, so the illiberal left is another possibility. Evaluate by behavior, not rhetoric or label.
Polybius
(15,608 posts)Florida is not going Blue in 2024.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)I pointed out that the need to hold his and other Senate seats was in part to the reality that there are no realistic pick-up opportunities. Having Grayson as a Senate nominee lowers the odds further.
Lochloosa
(16,107 posts)We need someone with a lot more heft to take on Scott.
quakerboy
(13,930 posts)I enjoyed having a lefty demagogue voice to stand counter the plethora of RW ones, even while i recognized a lack of real substance. Fortunately we had hundreds of congresspeople to balance that lack out.
But primaries are a thing. If hes not our best shot, lets select and then elect someone else, right?
Or maybe Florida is too far gone for a "serious" Democrat to want to take that run. I dunno, but from the outside, things dont seem great there.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)Nobody expected Scott to consider shifting to the Presidential, so no serious competition was likely. And the Democratic Party, based on the last few years, hasn't shown an ability to pick competitive candidates.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The problem is who can be "competitive" in a moment of strong Republican ascendancy against a heavyweight incumbent Republican candidate. They have to consider, of course, that limited Party funding will have to be shared among several Democratic senators fighting for reelection, as well.
At worst, someone else or others will run in FL's primary, not just Grayson, and I'll send a donation to the most promising. I'll do it to support that candidate, but one goal will be to have him gone again after the primary.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)As I said before, I've met with Grayson (when he was ALSO running for Senate) and regardless of whether Republican lawmakers make the race difficult or not, I see nothing in him that tells me he'll be competitive on a Statewide level.
I'll observe that, if you read the entire thread, you'll see that people liked him because he made stirring speeches on the House Floor. Nobody has suggested he has the ability to win a statewide race.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and set about gathering support from powers in the party. As some in CA already have and others will.
We agree about Grayson himself. However, like tRump's early supporters while by far most were considering him unelectable, some DO believe Grayson has the ability to win a statewide race (if the corrupt establishment doesn't "rig" the election of course) and that he would be a superior senator. Speaking of thread reading.
Anti-establishment populism embraces characteristics that establishment protectors consider disqualifying.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Just say that, rather than the rest.
quakerboy
(13,930 posts)Unless it's likely to achieve a positive effect just by existing of course.
That said, if there's no alternative better candidate on tap.. why waste on the race or existing candidates at all?
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)If I was a Florida resident, I'd vote for whomever the Democratic candidate was (fairly certain of the outcome).
But I get calls for support from candidates around the country, and I model every competitive race to determine where my resources can be best used.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Can't say he doesn't set his goals high. Grayson embedded in the senate could do whatever he wanted, and this time it could take decades to get him out. If ever. Anger one set of voters, gain a new, bigger set. Break one deal, make new ones with more powerful people.
bucolic_frolic
(43,739 posts)Don't know why he keeps coming back.
Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)quote that "We already have death panels. They're called INSURANCE COMPANIES." RWNJ's were saying Obamacare would create death panels..
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)frequent lack of coverage for preexisting conditions and such?
The ACA we were fighting to get passed at that very time required all insurance policies to provide mandatory coverage for preexisting conditions, lifetime coverage for conditions, and a number of other important coverages to close previous exposure holes.
It was impolitic in that situation not just because it offended Republicans we still hoped to get few votes from, but because we'd worked hard to get most of the insurance industry on board to help create the ACA.
Despite previous coverage problems, in the past those who died for lack of care were overwhelmingly uninsured. People who had insurance often subordinated job changes, moves, etc, to stay in place to protect their workplace insurance; even with coverage holes, it was that valuable.
Doubt he lost us anything at that time, though. It was Senator Lieberman who in the end threatened to kill national healthcare entirely if we didn't remove the public option.
A huge example of why we need to be very careful who we elect to the senate is very ideologically trustworthy and stable.
Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)over again, that single payer was absolutely the way to go. But now there are just too many entities involved. That was the jist of what I heard and it was sad indeed. Almost an acknowledgment of we will never have what most of the advanced nations currently have. And Lieberman was a poor choice for Gore IMHO, going back to 2000.
We need fighters right now.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)gotten it passed, though? There's no reason to think we would have; there was real opposition to some of the ACA's changes among some Democrats, not just Lieberman.
Btw, Obama and the senate leader, Harry Reid?, became so afraid that we wouldn't be able to pass the comprehensive form of the ACA that the house had passed and sent to the senate (their counts were not good) that they wanted house speaker Nancy Pelosi to agree to remove major portions so they could bring a smaller bill they could pass. Nancy, who strongly believed they could pass the comprehensive bill she'd worked hard for years to create, stood there Obama's office and told them they were holding the only version that would come out of the house and it would be that or nothing. Of course, she was right. I've read that some insiders referred to it privately as Pelosicare, no insult to President Obama's role, just acknowledgement.
Of course, there was one more holdup, and that was renegade Lieberman's final threat to kill the whole thing to eliminate the single payer option. There was no way to save it.
I was going to sign up for single payer as soon as it was available, btw, and was sure that over time most Americans would move to that. Still am. But thanks to Republican swiftboating, there was a lot more public suspicion and rejection than support for it. Offering it as an additional option was a way of slipping it in.
Forgive me, but nonsense to "we will never have"?
Agree in retrospect Lieberman was a very poor (!) choice for Gore -- and the Democratic voters he betrayed. He ended up at war with Democrats both in congress and his own state, who might have finally succeeded in kicking him out for good the year after killing the single payer option etcetera, etcetera, if he hadn't decided to retire.
The fight goes on.
Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)liberal ideals leading to what I see as sensible and necessary, often inevitable, changes are not shared by enough people to cause significant delays and setbacks. Heck, a lot of them will dig in and get their hair on fire over change in itself, just because it's change.
But civilization is advancing anyway. Looked at closer, though, the "arc of justice" has been about as smooth as tRump's signature.
Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)enough with another election cycle almost here. To hear Wray and Garland waited a year is really disheartening, IMHO. I have two teens that I want to see a stable USA, not the chaos of the last 7 years. One's school was locked down with 100 SWAT guys responding. They have bullet-proof desks now. But I digress...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I hate they're growing up with THIS very low point as their nation of what our country is and what people are. I worry too, Evolve. If we aren't able to pass on the country we inherited to them, their kids could have to rebuild it.
Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)But we keep trying right?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)authoritarian answers to their problems nearly a century ago now. Other democracies and governments worth saving have fallen all through the decades after while we prospered. Now the entire planet is threatened by the same wave we are of extremism and authoritarianism and the prospect of citizens voting to destroy their own democracies. Including rises in most European nations.
I've read that a large study measured the U.S. population as currently significantly higher in authoritarianism than other advanced liberal democracies like us in the study, though. Extremist views, once marginalized, have become dangerously normalized into the mainstream.
NOT the Democratic Party, though. Groups that evaluate political parties around the planet rate the Democratic Party as remaining ideologically stable and committed to democracy all through the century. (Blasting all the lies of us going more conservative, socialist, corrupted by business, etc, as the pernicious deceits they are.) The GOP otoh has degraded severely, rated similar to nations becoming autocracies, roughly equivalent to Hungary under Viktor Orban.
Scary times, but hopeful too. Those still capable of valuing and protecting what we inherited increasingly outnumber those who're becoming threats, though. Even in 2016, with the nation deep-buried under blizzards of lies swirling from all directions, and a female candidate, millions more people voted Democratic for HRC than for the alternatives. They weren't fooled. And the whole nation's been getting more and more wakeup jolts from the authoritarian right ever since.
Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)Polybius
(15,608 posts)It's too Red.
Evolve Dammit
(16,943 posts)Polybius
(15,608 posts)Only in his district.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)was dissing Alan Grayson. I hope he makes it in but Fl give me little hope for common sense voting.
oldsoftie
(12,745 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)Tepid centrists don't win.
oldsoftie
(12,745 posts)Thats what he is. He ran a dishonest campaign, refused to pull the dishonest ads & lost. His politics may be different than trumps but his attitude is very similar.
rubbersole
(6,821 posts)Alan Grayson is the most progressive candidate running for any office in Florida since I've been voting (1970). He was unfairly smeared by the 'vast right wing' machine. Find a statewide candidate that can beat Rick Scott and I'll get behind them.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)Is it possible that Florida voters, in aggregate, don't WANT 'the most progressive candidate running"?
rubbersole
(6,821 posts)carpetbagger
(4,399 posts)I personally think Scott's Achilles heel would be a dark horse working physician candidate or a well-known athlete, but that's me.
rubbersole
(6,821 posts)...at least not yet. A friend mentioned the new Jacksonville mayor would make a good candidate. I don't think the DNC will outspend the repubs here. And they would have to. By a lot.
oldsoftie
(12,745 posts)It shouldn't be hard to find a better statewide Democrat candidate. Grayson will just secure Scott's seat
ancianita
(36,305 posts)I can't believe I have to read these threads about Democrats' "electability" in red states.
Enough with the 'electability' and perfect as the enemy of the good mentality about Florida candidates.
Support Democrats. Every damn where.
Either DU'ers support all Democratic candidates in Florida or they don't.
All the diss and dismiss here of Democrats in any battleground -- after very little help or encouragement here for Val Demings, Gillum, Maxwell Frost or Charlie Crist -- can take a hike.
If, after what I've read on this thread,, any niggler wants to Alert on what I've said, you're more the problem than Democrats in red states.
rubbersole
(6,821 posts)That voted in Al Gore while Jeb was governor (caging voters statewide).
ancianita
(36,305 posts)I already posted a map that shows that the last time people were writing off the state and its Democratic candidates.
rubbersole
(6,821 posts)Turnout/enthusiasm vs unlimited money/disinformation.
ancianita
(36,305 posts)I agree, generally, because there are over 4,000,000 registered "unaffiliateds" in this state. And that's why the national party and DU'ers have to fight to turn them to our side in 2024. Including for Alan Grayson, who, even when he gets bad press, he still gets attention, and he's a liberal who knows how to fight MAGA messaging from their oligarchs.
Support for FL Democrats is tepid here, and that shouldn't be the case. They should not be indulging in chipping away at their own going into 2024. We DU Democrats should support all Democratic candidates in red states. The primaries are coming, and DU should be fighting hard with donations for Democrats in those states.
rubbersole
(6,821 posts)Women and young people are going to save American democracy. Florida is going to be in play in 2024. Shit is hitting the fan in every aspect of the repub party. desantis is a national embarrassment. A year from now the political landscape will be very good for democratic candidates who will seem sane compared to the alternative.
Retrograde
(10,211 posts)He hasn't emailed asking me for money yet!
Seriously, I'd like to see Val Demmings run again for the seat.
littlemissmartypants
(23,066 posts)joet67
(624 posts)SarcasticSatyr
(1,191 posts)But I'd really prefer another choice ...
Mawspam2
(759 posts)Is shit as a person. Not looking for perfection, just better than this grifter..
Tarheel_Dem
(31,270 posts)for the Democratic Party. We already know the ads they'll run against him.
Joinfortmill
(14,629 posts)carpetbagger
(4,399 posts)soldierant
(7,047 posts)And that he has other imperfections. But I would certainly consider him a progressive. And even if he were more of a centrist, wouldn't he still be better than Rubio, for God's sake?
Also, both parties require Senators and Representatives to spend a certain percentage of their time raising funds. I'm not crazy about that either. But it's a job requirement. And it's one of the things which it is actually true that both sides do. I try to ignore it, at least when evaluating their fitness to serve.
brooklynite
(95,351 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)Why is he not viable? Only RW loons and tepid centrists are viable?
Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)Also, in deep red areas, it makes little sense to run extreme left candidates. Those candidates are NOT VIABLE in certain states/districts/regions. Like it or not, the "tepid centrists" that you're scorning/ridiculing often do better in certain areas when compared to extreme folks like Grayson, who has already been rejected by the voters at least once already, no? It's clear that he's more of a grandstanding personality and I find his outrageous rhetoric to be a little bit embarrassing to the party. That's why a lot of folks (including myself) can't take him seriously. If he's the nominee, I'd hope he wins... but I doubt that will be the case. So, this is also why I said that we (as Democrats) can find better candidates who actually have a chance of winning. Nome-sayin?
Hey! I see from your user-ID name that you are (or were) a candidate in Arizona. How is (or was) it going? Did you win?
AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)And I suspended my campaign when my wife's green card was denied a third time. I had been away from her due to COVID for 18 months.
I suspended and went back overseas to be with my wife.
Amazing that to get my spouse visa to go to my wife in China form a form, a photo, my passport, a fee, and ten days
But we're still waiting for the US Government to approve her documents for her green card interview.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,987 posts)thesquanderer
(12,022 posts)I suspect that China, OTOH, makes it easier to enter than it is for its citizens to leave.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)But pver government, especially one that supposedly welcomes foreigners like the US, should be in the business of separating an American citizen from their foreign spouse. Spouse green cards, after five years of marriage, should be automatic.
oldsoftie
(12,745 posts)IMO, as long as a couple can pass the "its not a green card marriage" test, this should've been handled LONG ago.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)then walked away.
No one did a thing.
We started the green card process our sixth year of marriage.
Jose Garcia
(2,618 posts)Florida is not a blue state.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,889 posts)first born son and sodomize their wives at the same time.
PurgedVoter
(2,222 posts)On paper Cruz is one of my representatives. I would not have been purged if they thought they were going to win by being fair. There are a lot of insane, TFG flag waving, Brandon hating idiots around here, but I suspect that if there were an honest vote, Abbot, Cruz and a lot of others would be gone fast. The Republicans wouldn't be passing bills to be able to have a redo on elections if they thought they had an honest chance of keeping power.
Oh, and I like Grayson, I think he has had issues and an artful propaganda campaign against him. He voted in the middle of how Democratic Party members in the House of Representatives voted, so he is shouldn't be considered an outlier as far as his record goes. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/alan_grayson/412276
Polybius
(15,608 posts)Why bother when you know you can't win?
IcyPeas
(22,003 posts)brooklynite
(95,351 posts)Did it change the minds of Republican members of congress?
Did if encourage voters to kick the Republicans out?
Or did it make liberals who already agreed with him feel good?
oasis
(49,692 posts)Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)
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