Prigozhin claims Wagner mutiny showed Putin how invasion should have been done

[speak easy]

Source: The Independent

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin has claimed that his mercenary group’s shortlived mutiny against Russia’s military leadership gave a “masterclass” in what Vladimir Putin’s troops could have achieved with their botched invasion of Ukraine.

In his first public statement since seizing the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don and ordering his private army to march on Moscow, only to broker an 11th-hour deal with Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko, Mr Prigozhin warned his brief mutiny had highlighted Russia’s “serious security problems”.

Despite admitting to shooting down Russian aircrafts, the mercenary boss insisted his so-called “march for justice” had not been intended as a coup, but to demand accountability for mistakes in Ukraine by military leaders in Moscow and to protest plans to dismantle Wagner.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-putin-wagner-latest-b2364020.html

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'Society demanded it,' says Prigozhin in first comments since abandoning mutiny

The Russian warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin has reappeared for the first time since abandoning his armed mutiny on Saturday evening, issuing a defiant 11-minute statement in which he defended the Wagner uprising and said that “society demanded it”.

In the statement, Prigozhin denied that Wagner sought to topple Putin and said that the uprising had shown that there were “serious problems with security on the whole territory of our country”.

“The goal of the march was to not allow the destruction of the Wagner private military company and hold to account the officials who through their unprofessional actions have committed a massive number of errors. Society demanded it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jun/26/russia-ukraine-war-live-kyiv-claims-advances-near-bakhmut-rouble-falls-to-15-month-low-after-wagner-rebellion

[cachukis]

1. Prigozhin only had to face a washed out Russian defense,

not a fighting for existence Ukrainian army.

[speak easy]

3. Prigozhin lost 20,000 - 30,000 men in Bakhmut

[cachukis]

4. Meat grinder mentality. Exists in many ways, in many forms.

[chowder66]

2. Bullshit. He didn't meet resistance by the Russians.

[stopdiggin]

5. isn't it about time

(or perhaps past time) That we started treating this individual's 'pronouncements' as the saliva flecked ranting that they so obviously are?

He might remain (at this time) a thoroughly dangerous madman - but that still makes him precisely - a madman. There has been nothing at all coherent, or reality based, out of this guy in ... Some period of time. It's time to start recognizing the drool issuing from his mouth as what it is.

(let the west capitalize on the turmoil created - analyze and react to real time conditions and events - but trying to create any sort of 'spokesman' or figurehead, or coherent arc of meaning or event, out of this spent casing ... utter nonsense.)

[speak easy]

10. The main point is that he is still alive.

[stopdiggin]

13. true that. but just about given up any interest in

'he says this, or he says that'
certifiable fruitcake. and not a reliable oracle - - for virtually anything.

[Kennah]

15. For now

[speak easy]

16. Indeed.

He does have an elite core of special forces around him.

[IronLionZion]

6. Anything involving Russia is always super sketchy and unbelievable

I don't believe anything any of them say

[Warpy]

7. Uh, the column of armored vehicles moving down a road?

It's what Putin tried to do, honeybunch, only the Ukrainians turned it into scrap metal.

Nice to know the sack of crap has finally surfaced. A lot of people are deeply angry at him for not finishing the job, for selling out his organization,

I'm sure he made out like the bandit he's always been. I just wonder how long he's going to be around to enjoy it.

[speak easy]

17. He had at most 5,000 troops marching on Moscow.

Unless the army, special forces, and police parted like the Rea Sea, like they did in Rostov, his columns were chop suey.

[Wingus Dingus]

8. So weird that they allowed him to take over an important military HQ and sent

no one to stop him for hours. He was there shooting the shit with senior officials, nobody arrested him. Are all those guys going to get into trouble too?

[speak easy]

11. More than that, they knew he was coming.

[Igel]

12. The Ukrainian take is that there was nobody there to stop him.

Pretty much all the forces are committed or too far away.

Wonder what would happen if the Ukrainians broke through in the Belgorod direction and tried to circle around?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

9. Defiant Prigozhin says Wagner mercenaries to operate from Belarus

RIGA, Latvia — Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeniy Prigozhin resurfaced Monday for the first time since his Saturday mutiny and declared that his motive was to save the private militia from being subsumed into the Russian military — not to topple President Vladimir Putin.

Prigozhin, who did not disclose his whereabouts, said he ordered the rebellion after Russia’s military killed 30 Wagner fighters in a missile strike on one of the militia’s camps, and he said he accepted a deal to avoid prosecution and move to Belarus because it would allow Wagner to continue its operations there.

Whatever his intentions, however, Prigozhin’s brazen revolt confronted Putin with the fiercest challenge he has faced in more than 23 years as Russia’s supreme leader, and it laid bare bitter divisions over the handling of the war in Ukraine that could have serious repercussions on the battlefield.

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Speaking in an 11-minute audio address posted on Telegram on Monday, Prigozhin said Wagner fighters were strongly opposed to signing a contracts with the Russian Defense Ministry — as they had been ordered to do by July 1 — because it would have effectively dismantled the group. Wagner had decided to hand back its equipment to the Defense Ministry when the missile strike occurred, he claimed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/06/26/putin-prigozhin-russia-rebellion-wagner/

[orangecrush]

14. Tell it to the FSB, Prig.