Ron DeSantis says he'll end birthright citizenship as president

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: Miami Herald

Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday unveiled a sweeping plan to overhaul the nation’s immigration system and ramp up border enforcement, vowing to end birthright citizenship, “repel the invasion” at the U.S. southern border and use the “levers at our disposal” to ensure cooperation from Mexico.

The plan, which was unveiled during a campaign trip to the border town of Eagle Pass, Texas, ushered in the beginning of a new, policy-focused phase of DeSantis’ presidential bid that his campaign has billed as a more direct effort to challenge President Joe Biden.

But the rollout also doubled as an attempt to criticize former President Donald Trump, the heavy frontrunner for the GOP’s 2024 White House nomination whose political brand was built in large part on his hardline — and often inflammatory — rhetoric on immigration and border security.

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DeSantis’ proposals went even further, calling for the end of birthright citizenship, in which the United States automatically grants citizenship to anyone born within its borders. That right is granted under the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States … are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” The Constitution also says that “no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ron-desantis-says-ll-end-164208052.html

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Not going to happen without a constitutional amendment DeSantis. Good luck at that.

[Deep State Witch]

1. How About All of Those Pregnant Russians

Who come to Florida to have their kids, so the babies can have American citizenship?

https://apnews.com/article/161a0db2666044dc8d42932edd9b9ce6

Mother Russia: South Florida sees a boom in ‘birth tourism’

MIAMI (AP) — Every year, hundreds of pregnant Russian women travel to the United States to give birth so that their child can acquire all the privileges of American citizenship.

They pay anywhere from $20,000 to sometimes more than $50,000 to brokers who arrange their travel documents, accommodations and hospital stays, often in Florida.

While the cost is high, their children will be rewarded with opportunities and travel advantages not available to their Russian countrymen. The parents themselves may benefit someday as well.

[TheRealNorth]

24. Republicans are okay with that

because they are rich and they're white.

[marble falls]

2. Yeah, Ronnie Puddingfingers, fuck the Constitution! That's just a dog whistle for the knuckle ...

... draggers who think you're magical.

[TheBlackAdder]

34. I wonder how many of Meatball's grandparents took advantage of that.

[niyad]

3. where is an alligator when you need one?

[spudspud]

20. Uhhh...

[niyad]

27. I do apologize to these beings, but maybe one that is terminally ill would be

willing to make a sacrifice?

[marble falls]

48. Maybe we can retroactively retract citizenship from the entire Drumph family. Granddad got here ...

... got here as a draft dodger. After he made his fortune with hotels and whorehouses in the Yukon, he tried to return home and was refused entry as a draft dodger.

[madaboutharry]

4. DeSantis is full of shit.

The man is a graduate of Harvard Law School. He may be a terrible person, but he is not an idiot. He had to at least pass his Constitutional Law class and pass a Bar Exam question on Constitutional Law.

He knows how the Constitution works.

What a friggin" wanker.

[Mr.Bill]

6. I don't care where he went to school,

I think he's a moron.

[madaboutharry]

14. Two things can be true at the same time!

[niyad]

28. cancun cruz, lindsey graham, john "foghorn leghorn" kennedy, and bush the

younger being excellent examples.

[FSogol]

7. Exactly, he's just trying to out-asshole Trumpy to secure his Qnuts and Nazi base.

Desantis is a mealy pissant being outplayed by bigger idiots. His dreams of being President are slipping away so he's trying to up his game.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

19. A trenchant analysis indeed (nt)

[MontanaMama]

47. I had to look up "trenchant"

I didn’t know what it meant…and I’m a word nerd. Good one!

[Hugh_Lebowski]

54. Glad to contribute

Mama

[TomSlick]

21. He knows this is BS.

His hope is that his audience does not.

[ShazzieB]

31. Bush the Younger didn't go to law school.

He went to Harvard Business School.

Not sure if that matters, but I thought I might as well point it out.

[niyad]

49. Nobody said that he went to law school, but one does assume that degrees

from the Ivies denote at least a modicum of intelligence. But there are, of course, certain legacy admissions at all of them which can negate that assumption.

[rsdsharp]

35. I knew a guy who failed Con Law I. He's a bankruptcy judge in Vegas, now.

[Stuart G]

5. The fact that DeSantis would even talk about this is horrible. DeSantis can go to hell.

This is against the Constitution and DeSantis knows it.

Also: THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

8. There's this trivial little thing called the Constitution, Ron

You might actually consider reading it.

[BigmanPigman]

9. Will his moronic supporters fall for this BS?

Of course. They don't need no stinkin' Constitution to tell them what they can do. Freedumb.

[Skittles]

30. yes

they fall for EVERYTHING

[sinkingfeeling]

10. Did he mean to say he'd end the Constitution?

[Baitball Blogger]

11. How else is he going to do it?

[TheRealNorth]

26. He could get SCOTUS to "reinterpret" the Constitutuion

[BOSSHOG]

12. So none of us will be citizens?

I was “born” almost 70 years ago where the Iggles and the Phillies hang out. So where will I be a citizen of lil ron? Will you move me there wherever there is?

Will there be a grandfather clause?

And I’m White lil ron will that make a difference to you? And how bout all the stupid white people who support you?

I “literally” don’t understand lil ron.

[Mopar151]

13. He knows that this will never happen.....

Just like he's never going to be president!

Imho, he's running for what Trump ran for in 2016 - Being a big shot to all the haters and losers, while skating on all the "boring stuff" that REAL Presidents have to do. Putin doublecrossed Trump then, by making him win the election, and dashing his dream of Trump Tower Moscow.

[Initech]

15. So I guess "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" is meaningless now?

Fuck Desantis and the Christian right. They are sinking this country into a new dark age.

[slightlv]

16. Is he just another Repug that knows nothing about

the Constitution or how to make and/or change laws?

Or is he just planning on doing this by fiat?

[Ocelot II]

23. He knows he can't do it; he's a Harvard Law grad.

He also knows that the morons he wants as voters don't know that he can't do it.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

52. Going to Harvard Law doesn't mean that he retained

Any of what the professors taught--or agreed with any of it. He probably did the work to get by, but none of it really sank in--because he didn't care about learning anything. He only wanted the Ivy League certification, so he could use it for his own ends, vile as they've always been.

Happens all the time.

[Ocelot II]

53. That knowledge is basic. Anybody who made it through first year con law at any law school

would know it. He knows damn well that he can’t change the natural born citizen provision, but he also knows that immigration is a hot issue for the right wing base, and they’re too ignorant to know he can’t do it. It’s the lowest sort of cynicism.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

61. It's basic to *you* and anyone else who cared about their education

But I beg of you not to assume that's the case of those who attend these schoolsfor ugly reasons. He saw the information--but I highly doubt that he ever incorporated it into his worldview.

I was involved with a science org for a while, and they had real-world examples of how that idiot reverend Moon paid his brighter moonies to get advanced science degrees--not to learn a field, but to use what they learned to trash subjects ike evolution. One of them was working as a prominent "science journalist." Jonathan something. I can't remember his last name right now, but he was the most obvious case of getting an education to sabotage the field from the inside.

The only good news with science is that it's hard for the educated fools to cut it as a science professor at a real uni, but they can get hired at religious unis. Where they do the most damage, though, is by getting hired by assorted anti-science think tanks, textbook publishers, legit science museums. They also infiltrate textbook committees and school boards.

They can do a ton of damage even in those ways.

I know that evangelicals have followed the same model, and that none of these loons have limited themselves, or the damage they do, to science. History has gotten its share of these saboteurs, and I can all but guarantee that law is one of those other fields they're going after. Too much power is accessible to those with law degrees for these fascists and anti-reality types not to infest law schools with their future saboteurs, to exploit everything from law enforcement agencies to courts to government to diplomacy.

And consider that they had enough of these fools trained decades ago to open half-baked law-schools devoted to cranking out these saboteurs--Liberty, Regent, and etc. Several of their top profs attended Ivies or the near-Ivies, so they could lend a veneer of respectability to what amounts to little more than diploma mills.

[TwilightZone]

63. It's Constitution 101. Some people learn about it in junior high or middle school.

Anyone who took a junior high or high school civics or history class knows it.

Sometimes the easiest explanation is the correct one. In this case, the easiest explanation is that he's lying out of his ass. It also happens to be the correct one.

He knows he can't change it unilaterally. He just doesn't care.

[SunSeeker]

17. So much for being a "Constitutional Conservative."

Birthright citizenship is right in the Constitution, and he doesn't like it. First thing he wants to do is change the Constitution!

[Eugene]

18. DeDictator is just imitating Dolt45 almost beat for beat.

Dump proposed much same thing a few weeks ago, except Dump promised to do it on day one.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

32. You mean, day one, 2016?

Dump has been talking about doing this forever and he's not even close to the first RePuQ to harp on this.

Ronnie Little-D is an even more pathetic copy-cat than IQ45 is.

[Ocelot II]

22. He knows it's in the Constitution and that he can't do it; he also knows that the knuckle-draggers

who vote GOP don't know that he can't do it.

[crickets]

36. +1

[iluvtennis]

25. Yeah right - he's not getting a constitutional amendment approved. DeSatan is an a-hole. n/t

[LoisB]

29. LOL! Go for it Ronnie.

[Hekate]

33. That would require an amendment to the US Constitution

[sakabatou]

37. We get it, DeSatan, you're a racist.

[KPN]

38. Lol. Without that, many if not most of us Americans wouldn't have become

citizens; some of us — maybe many, maybe him — who are citizens today. What a moron. DeSantis is a dipshit.

[DBoon]

39. There is a reason this is in the constitution

It is to prevent former traitor states from depriving freed slave of their citizenship, because "their papers" weren't right.

Currently it would allow a hostile government to revoke anyone's citizenship at whim, because some distant ancestor did not have the right paperwork.

[Martin Eden]

40. Ron DeSantis doesn't want to be president

He wants to be El Presidente Fascisto Dicto-ignoramus.

[NoMoreRepugs]

41. The little general is banging his pots n pans cuz

DonnieTwoScoops is getting all the press coverage.

[keithbvadu2]

42. When discussing the Constitution in a blog or chat room...

When discussing the Constitution in a blog or chat room...

All things not specifically forbidden must be allowed, IF that supports your premise.

All things not specifically allowed must be forbidden, IF that supports your premise.

???

[LiberalLovinLug]

43. Of course it isn't about it happening. Its just part of building his brand.

Seems like DeSantis is always positioning himself to the right of Donald. No matter how far the fat orange fucker wallows in the muck and promises to own the libs more in his second term, DeSantis will strap on the white rubber boots and wade even further himself, and he's able to actually prove it in real time with his mini-America empire down there all rigged and invincible in order to get away with all kinds of Nazi social experiments to see just how far he can get away with this fear based, social engineering plot he has going. DeSantis is living out the dream behaviour that the MAGAts were hoping Donald was going to do more of.

Trump can only talk about things he really doesn't even know or care about. For Trump its all about him, and hurting people that don't bow to him. But he'll do whatever those smarter than him who give him the no. 1 complements tell him to do. Whatever will help his businesses or bank account do better, he's on board.

I don't know who is worse really.

[LymphocyteLover]

44. I really hate this racist prick and ending birthright citizenship is evil

[IronLionZion]

45. There it is. They hate the 14th amendment so much

They've been wanting to deport US born US citizens like me for decades. My birth certificate is as fake as President Obama's.

Shall we send Ron DeSantis back to Italy?

[Warpy]

46. Someone needs to ask him just how he plans to accomplish that

He has to get a constitutional amendment through Congress and I don't see something like that being ratified even if we get another Klown Kongress to shove it through.

I doubt he knows what has to be done and he sure as hell doesn't know what a bad idea it is.

[RussBLib]

50. What? So NO ONE gets citizenship if they are born in the US?

Then who gets citizenship? Billionaire families, perhaps, who have the cash?

[markodochartaigh]

51. It is commonly pooh-poohed, just like the supreme court

stopping an election would have been, or the Senate refusing to give a hearing to a president's supreme court nominee would have been, or congress members spending the Fourth of July in Moscow would have been; but the Republicans are planning a new Constitutional Convention.

[maxrandb]

55. I guess the Cubans in Florida are OK with this

Somehow, it won't apply to them, or their children, or future Cuban immigrants that happen to make it to the US, right?

If ever there was a "Fuck you, I got mine" policy, this would be it.

For those who say; "this is entirely un-Constitutional", well, you haven't been paying attention to what Leonard Leo has been doing to our Judicial Branch.

[mainer]

56. The truly scary part is that he thinks it gives him traction with the right

And he may be correct. There are Republicans who want to turn citizenship into a barter system, a privilege awarded only to those they deem fit to be Americans: white, Christian, and rich.

[treestar]

57. He would be even more shocked

Than TFG was upon finding out there are two other branches equally powerful

Edit to add that I did not realiza he is a Harvard law grad. So that means he knows he is lying to the magats

[malthaussen]

58. Hmm, the only way he could do this is by overturning the Constitution by fiat...

... so I guess he's telling us his ambition is to be an elected dictator.

-- Mal

[Novara]

59. So he's gonna eliminate a Constitutional Amendment all by himself?

Uhhhhh, a president can't decide to re-write a Constitutional Amendment to eliminate a part of it they don't like (the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment).

Just think of the implications of eliminating THIS:

The Citizenship Clause is the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which was adopted on July 9, 1868, which states:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

This clause reversed a portion of the Dred Scott v. Sandford decision, which had declared that African Americans were not and could not become citizens of the United States or enjoy any of the privileges and immunities of citizenship.

[kimbutgar]

60. Isn't he a lawyer and wouldn't he have had to study the constitution ?

It would take a constitutional amendment to repeal it.

I know it’s only for him to get the stupids votes.

[Ocelot II]

62. He knows that; he's relying on his idiot voters to not know it.