DeSantis signed a controversial measure to overhaul permanent alimony. Here's what to know about the

[discocrisco01]

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Source: NBC Miami

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Friday signed a measure that will overhaul the state’s alimony laws, after three vetoes of similar bills and a decade of emotional clashes over the issue.

The measure (SB 1416) includes doing away with what is known as permanent alimony.

DeSantis’ approval came a year after he nixed a similar bill that sought to eliminate permanent alimony and set up a formula for alimony amounts based on the length of marriage.

So what does this new measure mean for alimony laws in Florida? Here's everything you need to know about the new bill.

Read more: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/desantis-signed-a-controversial-measure-that-will-overhaul-permanent-alimony-heres-what-to-know-about-the-bill/3064740/

[Lonestarblue]

1. Something every teenager needs to learn about, especially young women.

I believe that every person should have a job before getting married, and that women especially should be taught the economic costs of not finishing high school or not being able to work because of having to care for small children. Now that Republicans are forcing birth on women, they should consider what happens to them even if they’re currently married but a husband decides to get a divorce. A women with babies and no job skills is stuck at the bottom of an economic ladder. She may get some child support, but deadbeat dads are notorious for skipping out on alimony payments. And those who drop out of high school to have a baby have a greater likelihood of living their whole lives in poverty. Many kids are totally ignorant of these realities.

[hlthe2b]

2. Or controlling, (quite often RW) misogynistic men. (and what they say when you aren't around DOES

matter. Ditto, what they post "anonymously" online. They often reveal their "true selves" to their peers.

The "crush" you have in high school or just after, might well be your lifetime downfall.

Boy, it sounds cynical to say the above, but I've had many many sad friends over decades to see that it is true.


But the REAL MESSAGE: Do everything you can to avoid the possibility of losing your right to self-determination in a state that wants to control every aspect of a woman's life. Pack up and move if you possibly can--and parents, help the young women do so!

[OldBaldy1701E]

17. Well, when the entire narrative about their reality

Is bullshit propaganda, this is what we get. Generations of idiots who have no idea about reality because they have been shielded from how things really work by false narratives that try to convince them that they are the greatest thing since sliced bread and that everyone else is sub-human. And, that they can do no wrong and that the world turns only for them.

And, it worked. Now... what are we prepared to do about it?

[Snooper9]

3. I didn't even know this was a thing...

So you can get married at 25, divorce at 40, then pay alimony for maybe 50 to 60 years? Unless I am missing something here HOLY SHIT!

[The Mouth]

4. I think the underlying idea

and the instance where such things ARE ruled is when the woman drops out of school to support her husband and/or raise kids, 10 15 years later hubby dumps her for a newer model, and the woman has very little formal education and little or no work experience so she's at an extreme economic disadvantage while the guy she sacrificed everything for might be bringing in the big bucks now. When that's the case the courts will damn well rule the guy has got to provide for her going forward.

[SharonAnn]

6. Unforunately the courts don't always do that. But it is becoming more frequent.

[The Mouth]

7. I think that the long-term alimony thing was actually more prevalent

a few decades ago. A woman in the 50's or 60's or early 70's who found herself 40 years old, with at most a HS diploma and no 'work experience' for the last 15-20 years was often well and truly screwed in an economic sense.

I know this the case for one of my mom's friends; married at 18, 3 kids by 23, asshole hubby hooked up with a 'trophy wife' when she was bout 40. Hubby was climbing the corporate ladder, in large part because she took care of everything else. So of course he bitched and griped when alimony and child support were set at damn near his take-home, but tough luck; best part was the trophy wife' (well fiancee) left him since he was nearly broke. Served the bastard right.

[MOMFUDSKI]

10. Horror story here:

Knew a gal 50 years ago that married the guy who was going to school to be a doctor. The agreement was she would work (she had a HS diploma) and put him thru school and then they would be on easy street. She planned a party for his graduation day and, before the guests arrived, he told her he wanted a divorce.

[obamanut2012]

13. Happens so many times

[TexasBushwhacker]

18. In those cases, the judge often awards the injured spouse

part of doctor's income for a period of time.

[SharonAnn]

5. Only if that's the divorce agreement/judgment. It's not usual.

[obamanut2012]

12. Interesting response

[Snooper9]

14. It should be, do you have an answer?

I looked it up and apparently 7 states still have this law.

I thought in most states divorce courts classify a stay at home spouse = working spouse. The top earner pays alimoni for 50 - 100% of years married and also pays child support until the child(ren) turn 18. (+ health insurance / 529 plan / etc.)


Thoughts?

[Shipwack]

16. Yep. Forever and ever in my case.

I was just telling my therapist the other day that I never would be able to retire because of my alimony payments. This new law gives me a sliver of hope, as much as I hate that I have DeSantis to thank for it.

Then again, considering that my ex gets a quarter of my paycheck (used to be a third) I can’t save for retirement anyway, so it’s a moot point.

Remember kids, the most expensive thing in the world is a cheap lawyer…

Could have been worse… at least we split things evenly. I got her gambling debts and she got my retirement check.

[Bayard]

9. You're still screwed

If the ex's attorney demands alimony be ended if you don't want a trial, and your own attorney is afraid of him and the judge. Nearly everything else gets bargained away too.

One thing Calif stinks at--No Fault divorce.

[Mawspam2]

11. Melania needs to file for divorce in New Jersey!

[MustLoveBeagles]

15. Locking now

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