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BumRushDaShow

(169,101 posts)
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 08:33 AM Jul 2023

Inflation rose just 0.2% in June, less than expected as consumers get a break from price increases

Source: CNBC

Inflation fell to its lowest annual rate in more than two years during June, the product both of some deceleration in costs and easy comparisons against a time when price increases were running at a more than 40-year high.

The consumer price index increased 3% from a year ago, which is the lowest level since March 2021. On a monthly basis, the index, which measures a broad swath of prices for goods and services, rose 0.2%. That compared to Dow Jones estimates for respective increases of 3.1% and 0.3%.

Stripping out volatile food and energy prices, core CPI rose 4.8% from a year ago and 0.2% on a monthly basis. Consensus estimates expected respective increases of 5% and 0.3%.

In sum, the numbers could give the Federal Reserve some breathing room as it looks to bring down inflation that was running around a 9% annual rate at this time in 2022, the highest November 1981.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/12/inflation-rose-just-0point2percent-in-june-less-than-expected-as-consumers-get-a-break-from-price-increases.html



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8:31 AM · Jul 12, 2023



Article updated.

Original article -

The consumer price index was expected to increase 0.3% in June and 3.1% from a year ago, according to Dow Jones consensus estimates.


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Inflation rose just 0.2% in June, less than expected as consumers get a break from price increases (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 OP
Won't stop Powell and Co from killing jobs 617Blue Jul 2023 #1
tHANK YOU jOE! James48 Jul 2023 #2
Let me know when prices return to "pre-gouging" levels intrepidity Jul 2023 #3
Wage increases are real and SHOULD remain. Happy Hoosier Jul 2023 #29
3.0% year over year Johnny2X2X Jul 2023 #4
I blame Joe Biden. He's an evil genius. Or a doddering old fool. I get confused. Ray Bruns Jul 2023 #5
I'm hoping their attacks on his age will backfire badly with elderly voters IronLionZion Jul 2023 #9
bIDen Is kIlLiNG iNflAtIOn!!! IronLionZion Jul 2023 #6
Should someone inform Walmart? /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #7
and in general the economic numbers are great, but because of the negative messaging pushed JohnSJ Jul 2023 #8
"It is just crazy how stupid the American public as a whole is." BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #10
I would like to believe your assessment is correct. JohnSJ Jul 2023 #11
As we know BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #13
+++ JohnSJ Jul 2023 #17
Inflation has slowed but the damage remains. Ace Rothstein Jul 2023 #14
Graphs (the Core CPI finally edges down on a rolling 3 month basis) progree Jul 2023 #12
Thanks! BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #16
😂 😊 😁 progree Jul 2023 #18
Well you have been closely following the trends BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #19
Corporations edhopper Jul 2023 #15
We're at 3% now and that's about how it's going to stay for a while mathematic Jul 2023 #20
Regular CPI: July 2022: +0.0%, August 2022: +0.2%, Sept: +0.4%, Oct: +0.5% progree Jul 2023 #22
The comps aren't as bad as I thought. mathematic Jul 2023 #23
Yes, and in August it will be "stuck at (whatever) percent after surging by (whatever) pct in July" progree Jul 2023 #24
Biden's really not playing fair now Johnny2X2X Jul 2023 #21
Had Powell and the Fed done nothing, inflation would have self-corrected Deminpenn Jul 2023 #25
Thank you Dark Brandon Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 #26
Since January 2021, stock market total return: +17.19%, But consumer prices up 15.91% progree Jul 2023 #27
"I couldn't figure out how to draw a straight line on the graph at IMGUR or the Windows Snip Tool." BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #28

617Blue

(2,426 posts)
1. Won't stop Powell and Co from killing jobs
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 08:37 AM
Jul 2023

with another excessive rate hike. These fuckers are singing from an outdated Volcker hymnal and just covering their own wealthy privileged asses.

intrepidity

(8,581 posts)
3. Let me know when prices return to "pre-gouging" levels
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 08:39 AM
Jul 2023

There's no legitimate justification--besides obscene corporate profits-- for current prices of everything.

Happy Hoosier

(9,526 posts)
29. Wage increases are real and SHOULD remain.
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 11:51 AM
Jul 2023

yes, corps gouged. But they also had to pay people more... which is good. I know my company has had to significantly increase offers to secure high-end talent. Again... not a bad thing.

That's not gonna reverse. Prices will not revert to previous levels for most items.

Johnny2X2X

(24,140 posts)
4. 3.0% year over year
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 08:43 AM
Jul 2023

INflation has been defeated. Now the flow of these numbers isn't straight forward, but the 0.2% number suggests we aren't going to see a slight spike in coming months.

The Fed will still raise rates again, probably twice, but they're also already nplanning rate reductions toward the end of the year or early next year. They'll bring the overnight rate back down to 4.5% of so by next Summer. And then we will hear the Republicans cry that the Fed is rigging the election by driving the economy with cheap money again.

Boy, hard to pick which is falling fastest right now, crime, inflation, or illegal immigration. Perhaps GOP chances in 2024 are falling faster than all 3.

Ray Bruns

(6,296 posts)
5. I blame Joe Biden. He's an evil genius. Or a doddering old fool. I get confused.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 08:45 AM
Jul 2023

I have to go watch Fux news now and let them tell me what to think today.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
8. and in general the economic numbers are great, but because of the negative messaging pushed
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:30 AM
Jul 2023

out by the MSM parroting the right wing talking points against Biden, the approval numbers on President Biden's handling of the economy is at 40%.

It is just crazy how stupid the American public as a whole is.




BumRushDaShow

(169,101 posts)
10. "It is just crazy how stupid the American public as a whole is."
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:46 AM
Jul 2023

I would suggest it's not so much the "American public" as it is the "agenda" of those who actually respond to those "polls/surveys".

Most Americans aren't "participating" in "politics", let alone requests from pollsters, and I know that I avoid them like the plague. I get at least one or two "survey" requests sent to me in large mailers every week, along with some calls to my landline, and now more and more texts going to my cell phones asking me to respond to a poll.

However the small subset of the populace who do seek those surveys out help to feed the narrative and the lazy media then ends up with the egg on their faces when a "Red Tsunami®" doesn't materialize. I expect that a "random 'person on the street'" type polling would probably be more accurate.

BumRushDaShow

(169,101 posts)
13. As we know
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:00 AM
Jul 2023

since Al Gore's 2000 loss to Shrub, Democrats have consistently won the "popular vote" in every election (and that included in 2016), but have been jerked around due to the Electoral College tallies.

It's been a matter of "engaging" people to vote when needed. Otherwise they are not going to be spending any significant, if not any time at all, engaged in the types of hyped-up political posturing and astroturf outrage that the media enjoys attributing to and legitimizing for the RW loons (for ratings and clicks).

Ace Rothstein

(3,373 posts)
14. Inflation has slowed but the damage remains.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:14 AM
Jul 2023

Prices are still way up from where they were a few years ago and everyone feels it when they go to the grocery store or a restaurant.

progree

(12,932 posts)
12. Graphs (the Core CPI finally edges down on a rolling 3 month basis)
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:56 AM
Jul 2023

though nowadays they look at things like "supercore service inflation" and core ex shelter and who knows what other series.

First the regular headline CPI number, and the regular month-by-month increases (rolling 3 months stuff comes later) :



Now the CORE CPI number that the Fed is more interested in (though actually its the CORE PCE inflation gauge that historically has been their #1 gauge of underlying inflation trend to project FUTURE inflation)



Obviously a nice move downward in June. It is actually a 0.16% increase when calculated using the actual index numbers (1.91% annualized). But is it a "one off" outlier?

CORE CPI Rolling 3 month average thru June 2023:

A rolling 3 month helps smooth out month-to-month volatility, and since 3 months is an average of 3 data points, is less likely to be dismissed as a "one off" like a single month's increase could be.



It's been stuck in the 4 to 5% range since November, but has hit the bottom of that range (4.08% annualized calculated using the actual index numbers). Still 2X the Fed's target. So yes, more rate hikes are coming (next Fed rate-setting meeting is July 26-27)

Various series:

BLS CPI press release: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
CPI: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0&output_view=pct_1mth
CORE CPI: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0L1E&output_view=pct_1mth

For all BLS timeseries data, one can see the index values and other periods like rolling 3 month, rolling 6 month, rolling 12 months by clicking "More Formatting Options" on the upper right and then on the page that shows up, check the various checkboxes

REAL AVERAGE HOURLY EARNINGS of production and non-supervisory workers https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000032 ,
. . . private workers: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000013

CPI excluding shelter - https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0000SA0L2
. . . FRED: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUUR0000SA0L2
. . . Table 3 has CPI ex shelter, as well as Core ex shelter https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t03.htm

Rent (SA) https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SEHA
Fred: (SA) Rent of Primary Residence in U.S. City Average https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SEHA
(NSA) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SEHA

SA = Seasonally Adjusted, NSA = Not Seasonally Adjusted

BumRushDaShow

(169,101 posts)
19. Well you have been closely following the trends
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:48 AM
Jul 2023

including when they have gotten stuck and/or were just bouncing around what was basically a straight line so at least the "dropping" trend is holding.

edhopper

(37,305 posts)
15. Corporations
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:20 AM
Jul 2023

have decided how much they can gouge before they start losing sales. This isn't inflation, it's opportunism.

mathematic

(1,610 posts)
20. We're at 3% now and that's about how it's going to stay for a while
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 11:50 AM
Jul 2023

"Inflation" ended in June of last year. It'll be a slow grind down to target rate from here, as the prior year's monthly values dropped off steeply after June '22. Look for rising yoy inflation over the next two months as, iirc, July & August '22 were both 0.0% months. I look forward to bad actors doomsaying the economy and government institutions, as if they haven't been wrong in particular over the last 18 months, and more generally, probably their entire lives.

progree

(12,932 posts)
22. Regular CPI: July 2022: +0.0%, August 2022: +0.2%, Sept: +0.4%, Oct: +0.5%
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 01:36 PM
Jul 2023
Look for rising yoy inflation over the next two months as, iirc, July & August '22 were both 0.0% months.


The CPI graph in #12:




CPI: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0&output_view=pct_1mth
CORE CPI: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0L1E&output_view=pct_1mth

For all BLS timeseries data, one can see the index values and other periods like rolling 3 month, rolling 6 month, rolling 12 months by clicking "More Formatting Options" on the upper right and then on the page that shows up, check the various checkboxes

mathematic

(1,610 posts)
23. The comps aren't as bad as I thought.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 02:29 PM
Jul 2023

There's going to be July doomer posts as "inflation rises for the first time in over a year" but there's a chance that's the only month we get that until the end of the year.

progree

(12,932 posts)
24. Yes, and in August it will be "stuck at (whatever) percent after surging by (whatever) pct in July"
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 02:58 PM
Jul 2023

The wild card will be energy as is often the case. In June it was +0.6%, after being +0.6% in April and MINUS 3.6% in May.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t01.htm

Shelter, which consists of rent and owner's equivalent of rent, is still kinda high at +0.4% in June (all numbers in this post are month over month). It's something that's supposed to help us in the coming months (although I've been hearing some variant or another of that since September). And since its about 40% of core inflation, that would be nice to bring that number down.

Johnny2X2X

(24,140 posts)
21. Biden's really not playing fair now
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 12:43 PM
Jul 2023

Just shameless how he's defeating Inflation, creating record numbers of jobs, and keeping the economy out of a recession. Just a naked effort to cater to voters who want to see America improved. He's also shamelessly overseen a plunge in the crime rate from the 2020 Trump spike. Just a clear effort to woo voters with things like solving the student debt crisis with his new income based repayment options, to straightening out the broken immigration system, and strngthening NATO to confront Russian aggression.

Well, Republicans aren't going to fall for this better, safer, more secure, and more prosperous America Biden is trying to pedal.

Deminpenn

(17,459 posts)
25. Had Powell and the Fed done nothing, inflation would have self-corrected
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 03:21 PM
Jul 2023

to the same rate it is now. The big companies took extra advantage of the pandemic supply chain issues to raise prices over and above what the free market would have produced for sure, but ultimately, supply caught back up to demand and prices are now falling.

The avian flu wiping out millions of chickens and eggs, another crisis that is either passed or being well-managed, that also caused inflation.

Then there's the ongoing war in Ukraine that's had a big impact on wheat.

Raising interest rates did nothing to cure those last two things. What the Fed did do was take advantage of the pandemic induced supply shortage to move interest rates off near 0, something they've wanted for awhile, but couldn't muster the courage to do.

progree

(12,932 posts)
27. Since January 2021, stock market total return: +17.19%, But consumer prices up 15.91%
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 11:26 PM
Jul 2023

Last edited Thu Jul 13, 2023, 12:14 AM - Edit history (2)

So the purchasing power of the total U.S. stock market fund is up 1.10% since inflation began in about January 2021... that is, since inflation consistently above the 2% target began.

The market: VTSAX Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (total U.S. stock market)
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VTSAX/history
Using the Adjusted Close figures which are adjusted for reinvested dividends. Thus these are total return figures:

1/1/21: 91.66
7/12/23: 107.42
+17.19%


Inflation: CPI:
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0
1'21: 262.650 (1'21 means January 2021)
6'23: 303.841
7'23: 304.449 (I just made it 0.2% higher than 6'23)
+15.91%

Real (inflation-adjusted) market up 107.42/91.66 * 262.650/304.449 = 1.01104 => 1.10%.

As for when sustained inflation above the Fed's 2.0% target began: It went above the pre-pandemic approximately 2.0% trendline in around January-February 2021

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPIAUCSL
IMGUR beginning May 2017

One has to get their straight edge out -- I couldn't figure out how to draw a straight line on the graph at IMGUR or the Windows Snip Tool.

I've also looked at every CPI graph from month-by-month to rolling 3 month averages, 6 month averages, 12 month averages, even rolling 36 month averages, so I'm comfortable that January 2021 is close.

Another interesting thing about the above graph is that the inflection point where inflation began a marked slowdown is clear on the graph: around June or July 2022. That X-axis label that is obscured by the "i" in Picsart is July 2022, and that's about where the "kink" is. No surprise: the month over month figures in May 2022 is 0.9% and June is 1.2%, followed by 0.0% and 0.2% in July and August 2022 respectively, making for a rather sharp change in slope.

As for the current CPI and core CPI trends (in the past 13 months or so):

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143099462#post12


BumRushDaShow

(169,101 posts)
28. "I couldn't figure out how to draw a straight line on the graph at IMGUR or the Windows Snip Tool."
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 04:41 AM
Jul 2023

What I end up doing to annotate my graphs is to bring up the image in the old "Paint" program to circle, highlight or draw a line, etc (you don't even need to use the newer "Paint 3D" as the old "Paint" one is still there and is quicker/less complicated for doing the quick annotations).

For example I usually do the fed funds rate one. So the rate as of last month (the green ovals were showing the periods when the rates were 0% - 0.25%) -



You can pick the color and thickness of the lines (and shapes) and can even add text by selecting that tool to create a rectangle in the area where the text should appear and then add the text within that rectangle (and I think the font size/color is selectable too).

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