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groundloop

(13,848 posts)
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 12:29 PM Jul 2023

Elon Musk says Twitter's cash flow still negative as ad revenue drops 50%

Source: Reuters

Twitter's cash flow remains negative because of a nearly 50% drop in advertising revenue and a heavy debt load, Elon Musk said on Saturday, falling short of his expectation in March that Twitter could reach cash flow positive by June.

"Need to reach positive cash flow before we have the luxury of anything else," Musk said in a tweet replying to suggestions on recapitalization.

This is the latest sign that the aggressive cost-cutting measures since Musk acquired Twitter in October alone are not enough to get Twitter to cash flow positive, and suggests Twitter's ad revenue may have not recovered as fast as Musk suggested in an interview in April with the BBC that most advertisers had returned to the site.

After laying off thousands of employees and cutting cloud service bills, Musk had said the company reduced its non-debt expenditures to $1.5 billion from a projected $4.5 billion in 2023. Twitter also faces annual interest payments of about $1.5 billion as a result of the debt it took on in the $44 billion deal that turned the company private.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-twitters-cash-flow-still-negative-ad-revenue-drops-2023-07-15/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Technology-Roundup&utm_term=071523

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Elon Musk says Twitter's cash flow still negative as ad revenue drops 50% (Original Post) groundloop Jul 2023 OP
He needs to lay off the owner dalton99a Jul 2023 #1
Right on! Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #10
DUzy worthy! Brother Buzz Jul 2023 #17
K&R Absolutely!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2023 #22
Sounds like it's going really well. underpants Jul 2023 #2
Actually reaching its goal orthoclad Jul 2023 #30
It is in Japan big time- Canada not so much womanofthehills Jul 2023 #37
Musk has been known to lie. yardwork Jul 2023 #40
Now's the time to boycott it more, he's almost on the ropes. bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #3
Actually- like Tic-Toc, Twitter just started paying influencers womanofthehills Jul 2023 #34
Serves the idiot right. SWBTATTReg Jul 2023 #4
Elon's Two Part Business Plan BlueIdaho Jul 2023 #5
Yup. sakabatou Jul 2023 #9
That's wonderful news. It shows hi incompetence. kysrsoze Jul 2023 #6
Isn't interest great? Hope it was a very high interest he has to pay. LiberalFighter Jul 2023 #7
Another genius like Trump running a business into the ditch Mysterian Jul 2023 #8
A lesson in how effective "trickle down" is not... Pluvious Jul 2023 #11
He just cut the number of potential ad views by forcing people to be logged in to see tweets Blues Heron Jul 2023 #12
I wonder how the bonesaw crew will respond Kennah Jul 2023 #13
There is a theory being floated that this is exactly what they wanted... Shipwack Jul 2023 #29
There's plenty enough malice to go around. orthoclad Jul 2023 #31
Clouseau could take him down Kennah Jul 2023 #41
Fucking up a formerly profitable company six ways to Sunday is a great way to increase cash flow Major Nikon Jul 2023 #14
Question is though will it help or actually hurt him in the pocket book? cstanleytech Jul 2023 #24
Does he want the cash or the power? orthoclad Jul 2023 #32
I'm still amazed that Twitter pushed so hard to get this clown. ificandream Jul 2023 #15
The shareholders all got a big payday back then. Claustrum Jul 2023 #16
Both of those issues moniss Jul 2023 #18
Super genius IronLionZion Jul 2023 #19
Gee, Elon, you mean you are not as smart as you tell everyone. That you only know how to throw LiberalArkie Jul 2023 #20
Oh boo hoo, elonie. Bird Lady Jul 2023 #21
I will not return to Twitter as long as Musk owns Twitter or has a say in how its run. cstanleytech Jul 2023 #23
Aggressive cost cutting - Auggy74 Jul 2023 #25
What a shame. I think he should just close up shop and call it a day. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #26
The obvious solution for lazy executives: more layoffs. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2023 #27
Doesn't limiting views to Twitter hurt with ads ? JI7 Jul 2023 #28
That's why I won't click on twit links orthoclad Jul 2023 #33
Another failed prediction by Musk Xanchez Jul 2023 #35
With people bailing twitter for threads Javaman Jul 2023 #36
Anyone surprised? Anyone? twodogsbarking Jul 2023 #38
Kick BlueWavePsych Jul 2023 #39
I just learned that Eloon is suing the lawyers that "forced" him to buy Twitter! csziggy Jul 2023 #42

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
30. Actually reaching its goal
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 05:59 PM
Jul 2023

of empowering the far-right.
He can afford to take a hit, a few billion here, a few billion there, as long as he can platform people like RFKJr and Andrew Tate.
At a certain point, power is worth more than wealth.

Besides, his personality problems get a stretch. He gets to play "humorous Bond villain".

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
37. It is in Japan big time- Canada not so much
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 10:42 PM
Jul 2023

Obviously, the Japanese love Twitter. Japan has more user active seconds than US.


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bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
3. Now's the time to boycott it more, he's almost on the ropes.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 12:39 PM
Jul 2023

Would be epic if his empire collapsed.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
34. Actually- like Tic-Toc, Twitter just started paying influencers
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:25 PM
Jul 2023

Posters are posting the amts they received - Brian Krassenstein posted he got a Twitter check for $24,305 for 3 months of tweets (you need a blue check to participate & your check is dependent on how many impressions you rack up)

)

"How I Made $24,305 on Twitter

After yesterday's revelation that many users on Twitter received unexpectedly high payouts, I had an inbox fukll of messages asking me about why I have been so successful on this platform.



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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
5. Elon's Two Part Business Plan
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 01:00 PM
Jul 2023

1. Start with a lot of money and slowly bleed the company to death.
2. Find someone else to blame when the shit hits the fan.

Pluvious

(5,395 posts)
11. A lesson in how effective "trickle down" is not...
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 01:30 PM
Jul 2023

Sacrificing the entire Middle Class to build a cadre of billionaires
maybe wasn’t the winning plan after all

Blues Heron

(8,837 posts)
12. He just cut the number of potential ad views by forcing people to be logged in to see tweets
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 01:55 PM
Jul 2023

I doubt advertisers view that as a good move.

Shipwack

(3,064 posts)
29. There is a theory being floated that this is exactly what they wanted...
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:59 PM
Jul 2023

I've seen and heard some people say that since Twitter was so powerful and influential for the left (not to mention its role in the Arab Spring), that people decided to destroy it, and Musk is doing their bidding.

I personally don't buy into this myself.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
14. Fucking up a formerly profitable company six ways to Sunday is a great way to increase cash flow
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 02:23 PM
Jul 2023

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
24. Question is though will it help or actually hurt him in the pocket book?
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:00 PM
Jul 2023

After all if it helps him by allowing him to reduce his taxes in some way to the point where he pays less in taxes than what he paid for Twitter he will consider it a win.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
32. Does he want the cash or the power?
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 06:03 PM
Jul 2023

Or maybe stroke his flaccid ego?

He has billions to spare.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
15. I'm still amazed that Twitter pushed so hard to get this clown.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 02:25 PM
Jul 2023

One of the stupidest business moves in history.

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
16. The shareholders all got a big payday back then.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 02:46 PM
Jul 2023

They all made out with stocks that Elon paid extra for. They made bank. They no longer own any stocks since Elon bought them all and made Twitter private. It's the poor workers that got the short end of the stick and got fired or remained but working 2-3x the workload.

LiberalArkie

(19,806 posts)
20. Gee, Elon, you mean you are not as smart as you tell everyone. That you only know how to throw
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 03:03 PM
Jul 2023

money at something and hope you do not have to do anything but play like a rocket scientist or an auto maker?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
27. The obvious solution for lazy executives: more layoffs.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jul 2023

worker salary has always been the biggest drain on shareholder profits. blame the rank & file.

(sarcasm, of course.)

solidarity forever

JI7

(93,616 posts)
28. Doesn't limiting views to Twitter hurt with ads ?
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 04:51 PM
Jul 2023

advertisers will be less likely to want to pay if views are limited ?

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