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Jose Garcia

(2,621 posts)
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 07:05 AM Jul 2023

Israeli Antiquities Are Stranded at Trump's Florida Estate as Authorities Fail to Retrieve Them

Source: Haaretz

Antiquities belonging to Israel have been kept for the past several months at former U.S. President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, and senior Israeli figures have unsuccessfully tried to have them returned to Israel.

Among the antiquities are ancient ceramic candles which are part of Israel's national treasures collection. They were sent to the U.S. in 2019 with the approval of then-Director of the Israeli Antiquities Authority, Israel Hasson, on the condition that they be returned within weeks, yet almost four years later, they have yet to be returned.

The archeological items were shipped from Israel to the United States for a Hanukkah event attended by Trump, then in office, and major Jewish-American donor to the Antiquities Authority Saul Fox. Over the years, Fox has donated to the establishment of a national center for antique coins, as well as to the creation of an archeological garden at the Knesset.

According to sources in Israel and abroad, Fox was invited in 2019 to a Hanukkah candle-lighting event at the White House. Ancient candles were sent from Israel for the event, intended to be displayed briefly in Washington, and then returned to Israel.

Read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-07-18/ty-article/.premium/israeli-antiquities-remain-stranded-at-trumps-estate-as-authorities-fail-to-retrieve/00000189-6448-dc6b-a3f9-ee593e850000?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Israeli Antiquities Are Stranded at Trump's Florida Estate as Authorities Fail to Retrieve Them (Original Post) Jose Garcia Jul 2023 OP
Looks like it's time for a raid Captain Zero Jul 2023 #1
A pre-dawn, no-knock raid. Live stream it as a pay-per-view event zuul Jul 2023 #4
I don't think Mossad requires any permission. dchill Jul 2023 #15
They certainly wouldn't ask for any... Wounded Bear Jul 2023 #17
It's just not a thing they do. dchill Jul 2023 #21
Hard to do a real no-knock if the raid is broadcast live on pay per view. cstanleytech Jul 2023 #27
Not hard at all. Put cameras on the entry team. zuul Jul 2023 #28
To do a proper live pay per view it needs to be advertised beforehand in which case cstanleytech Jul 2023 #34
Just what I was thinking Rebl2 Jul 2023 #20
Why do people think that putting anything in reach AllyCat Jul 2023 #2
Right!! He will probably tell them they belong to him...I hope they are able to get them back PortTack Jul 2023 #31
Omg. Outright thievery MaryMagdaline Jul 2023 #3
I'm still wondering what he stole of our antiquities. There's no way he left the White House Vinca Jul 2023 #5
i didnt think that was possible. it shouldnt b. but here we r. mopinko Jul 2023 #6
We'll probably be discovering things for years PatSeg Jul 2023 #10
And every roll of TP in the place. nt Hotler Jul 2023 #16
He stole them. That doesn't make them his. It makes them stolen. thatcrowwoman Jul 2023 #7
I love alliteration. 3catwoman3 Jul 2023 #29
... orangecrush Jul 2023 #8
If he'd steal from the USA, he'd certainly steal from Israel. They have done mothing for him lately lark Jul 2023 #9
If he stole artwork from the U.S. Ambassador's residence in Paris, Tanuki Jul 2023 #11
I bet he's got the Saudi's glowing orb too nuxvomica Jul 2023 #12
my post from a prior thread. AllaN01Bear Jul 2023 #13
oh please,,,,trump and nutty yahoo are besties dembotoz Jul 2023 #14
I'd bet my last buck..he sold them. mountain grammy Jul 2023 #18
Mine! Mine! They're mine! RussBLib Jul 2023 #19
Obviously he missed the premier of Indiana Mike, er Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark Backseat Driver Jul 2023 #22
"Stranded"? They are too polite. It's Stolen Property unlawfully retained. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #23
It made me puke to see Israelis treating con-job like a hero Mysterian Jul 2023 #24
Serves 'em right! moreland01 Jul 2023 #25
Like tfg's daddy Putin when he wouldn't return Patriots Super Bowl Ring to team owner Robert Kraft 2live is 2fly Jul 2023 #26
He declared they were his in his mind.... Bayard Jul 2023 #30
Even a 'Gift' to a president is not his personally and must go to the archives. mackdaddy Jul 2023 #32
He has no appreciation for art. Only $$$$$ IcyPeas Jul 2023 #33
No, he also has a lot of appreciation for himself. cstanleytech Jul 2023 #35
TFG will give artifacts back LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #36

zuul

(14,631 posts)
4. A pre-dawn, no-knock raid. Live stream it as a pay-per-view event
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 07:17 AM
Jul 2023

We could erase the national debt with the proceeds. Especially if there’s video of him without his wig and makeup, dragged out wearing just a bathrobe and handcuffs. Hell, let’s send Mossad in to get that fucking thief. Tell them to rough him up a bit.

zuul

(14,631 posts)
28. Not hard at all. Put cameras on the entry team.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:01 PM
Jul 2023

Motherfucker won't even know what's happening until they drag his ass out of bed.

cstanleytech

(26,404 posts)
34. To do a proper live pay per view it needs to be advertised beforehand in which case
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 07:38 PM
Jul 2023

it would defeat the purpose of a no knock that would lead to him being pulled out of bed.

AllyCat

(16,316 posts)
2. Why do people think that putting anything in reach
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 07:10 AM
Jul 2023

Of the tangerine toddler means they will get it back?

Vinca

(50,375 posts)
5. I'm still wondering what he stole of our antiquities. There's no way he left the White House
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 07:29 AM
Jul 2023

without some priceless artifact that belongs to us.

PatSeg

(48,005 posts)
10. We'll probably be discovering things for years
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 08:47 AM
Jul 2023

that he "inadvertently" took with him when he left. It seems almost spiteful on his part, "If I can't be President, I'll take as much with me as I can". Even stuff that he doesn't care about.

Trump in the White House was like having the in-law from hell visit you for awhile. After they finally leave, you keep finding stuff missing.

thatcrowwoman

(1,229 posts)
7. He stole them. That doesn't make them his. It makes them stolen.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 07:53 AM
Jul 2023

Not that he gives a shit, and we all know he’s full of shit.

He is:

Awfully assholey
Brazenly bullshitty
Cantankerously corrupt and cowardly
Disgustingly dishonest
Exhaustingly egomaniacal
Freakishly fecking felonious
Garishly gaslighty
Hellishly hate-filled
Incredibly ignorant
Jealously jabbering junkie
Killingly KuKluxKlanny
Losingly lingering
Maliciously malignantly Machiavelli-ing

Well, that’s the first half of the alphabet. He can’t honestly say I never gave him anything. I give him all these labels. Might finish the alphabet later. Might not waste any more time on him.
Meh
🕊thatcrowwoman



lark

(23,274 posts)
9. If he'd steal from the USA, he'd certainly steal from Israel. They have done mothing for him lately
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 08:32 AM
Jul 2023

He steals from thee, he steals from me

Tanuki

(14,939 posts)
11. If he stole artwork from the U.S. Ambassador's residence in Paris,
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 08:47 AM
Jul 2023

he'd steal from Israel without thinking twice.
https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2020/09/08/the-art-of-the-steal-trump-swipes-dollar750000-worth-of-art-from-the-us-embassy-in-francebut-none-of-it-is-the-real-deal

"President Donald Trump swiped some art from the residence of the US ambassador to France during a 2018 visit—the same visit on which he cancelled a trip to visit fallen First World War Marines at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery outside Paris after allegedly calling the dead “suckers” and “losers”. According to a recent report by Bloomberg, Trump fancied for himself several of the pieces in the ambassador’s historic residence in Paris, where he was staying and which serves as the flagship for the State Department’s “Art in Embassies” cultural programme. Without notifying the ambassador, Jamie McCourt, the president and author of The Art of the Deal had a portrait and bust of Benjamin Franklin and a set of silver figurines depicting Greek mythological characters loaded onto Air Force One to bring them back to the White House. A bureaucratic nightmare ensued for the State Department and White House staffers, who worried that the $750,000 cache of art might not be legally transferable. Meanwhile, a flummoxed McCourt was told that she would receive the work back in six years—or 2024, when a second term of Trump’s presidency would theoretically end.

The loot, however, was deemed legal to enter the White House since it was technically US property… and all of the works were replicas or copies anyway. It remains unclear whether Trump knew that none of the pieces were original when he decided to take them home with him, or whether he, in truth, was the real sucker."

nuxvomica

(12,517 posts)
12. I bet he's got the Saudi's glowing orb too
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 08:59 AM
Jul 2023

That was apparently given to the U.S. and hidden away because it's so embarrassing. But I bet he took it.

dembotoz

(16,892 posts)
14. oh please,,,,trump and nutty yahoo are besties
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 09:30 AM
Jul 2023

nothing will be pushed that would make the other look bad

if trump would die and eric would get them in the will...maybe then a fuss

Backseat Driver

(4,421 posts)
22. Obviously he missed the premier of Indiana Mike, er Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 10:45 AM
Jul 2023

Chewing the popcorn while waiting for the face-melt! Thought I read that Joe switched up Netanyahoo's RSVP and he's coming to visit Joe instead. Did they find the ceramic menorah at the WH?

Mysterian

(4,626 posts)
24. It made me puke to see Israelis treating con-job like a hero
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 11:06 AM
Jul 2023

But I know those were just right-wing assholes like we have here.

moreland01

(750 posts)
25. Serves 'em right!
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 11:24 AM
Jul 2023

Kissing trump's ass for 4+ years was disgusting. Guess they'll have to sue him. Get in line.

2live is 2fly

(336 posts)
26. Like tfg's daddy Putin when he wouldn't return Patriots Super Bowl Ring to team owner Robert Kraft
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 11:25 AM
Jul 2023

guess birds of a feather crime together. WTF is wrong with tfg anyway. Makes me wonder if Putin also threw rocks at baby strollers in Gorky park like tfg did in Central park when they were boys?

Bayard

(22,394 posts)
30. He declared they were his in his mind....
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:19 PM
Jul 2023

And hid them in a bathroom under his socks.

He's a packrat. Or, a crow looking for shiny things.

mackdaddy

(1,537 posts)
32. Even a 'Gift' to a president is not his personally and must go to the archives.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 01:35 PM
Jul 2023

But this was just a loan so he refused to return them as president, and has now stolen them from the whitehouse.

He should be prosecuted for antiquities theft and possession, on top of everything else.

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