Democrats scramble to reach voters after Florida cancels mail-in ballot requests
Source: NBC News
Florida Democrats say theyre spending and organizing to chase down people who vote by mail after election officials across the state canceled all standing mail ballot requests this year. The mass cancellations were to comply with a 2021 election law that added new restrictions to mail-in voting. The legislation which was celebrated by Gov. Ron DeSantis and slammed by voting rights advocates as discriminatory cut the duration of mail-in ballot requests in half from four years to two.
It also required that existing requests for mail ballots be canceled at the end of 2022, forcing election workers to cancel millions of requests and start their lists of vote-by-mail voters from scratch. In practice, that means that voters who requested mail-in ballots in 2021 or 2022 will have to make such requests again to vote in local races and the 2024 primary and general elections. In previous years, voters would not have had to request a ballot again for four years.
Democrats in the state say the change disproportionately affects their voters, who have embraced mail-in voting more than Republicans since 2020, when then-President Donald Trump falsely claimed mail-in voting was rife with fraud. The new law is forcing campaigns to adapt; Democrats say they're organizing aggressively to educate voters about renewing their mail ballot requests, sapping resources from voter registration and other outreach efforts.
Its doing exactly what they intended it to do, which is suppress voters and take resources, said Nikki Fried, chair of the state Democratic Party. Instead of focusing our money, resources and time on other endeavors and talking to voters, were having to spend resources to get people back on the rolls.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrats-scramble-reach-voters-florida-cancels-mail-ballot-requests-rcna91294
Lovie777
(22,983 posts)@05 for him
For Gov. ?????????????
Skittles
(171,715 posts)that's how they "win"
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)radical noodle
(10,595 posts)There are a lot of Republicans who vote by mail in Florida.
mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)but maybe he votes by mail in NYC, or maybe NJ, or maybe all of the above because when it comes to fraud, republicans have perfected it.
riversedge
(80,810 posts)CousinIT
(12,541 posts)SamKnause
(14,896 posts)You have to request an application to vote by mail.
Fill it out and send it in.
Then you get the ballot.
You have to do this every time you vote.
We had 4 elections in 2022.
I had to fill out 4 separate applications to vote by mail.
You have to pay all of the postage for sending in the applications and ballots.
When I hear there is an election coming up, I call the Board of Elections and request an application to vote by mail.
You have to specify what kind of election it is, Primary, General, or Special.
I had a application on file for this year.
There was only suppose to be 1 election this year.
I called the Board of Elections, they said I had an application on file for the General.
They had to send me a new application for the Special August 8th election.
If I had not called I would not have received a ballot for August.
Marthe48
(23,175 posts)and early voted. We voted by mail once or twice, but once we learned we could go to the BoE office, we did that. (I'm in Ohio, too)
It would be so modern if the states would allow voting on the Internet. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to make it secure. That'll never happen in red states, because the rw doesn't want more people to vote. They want as few as possible to vote.
SamKnause
(14,896 posts)I rarely leave my home.
I like voting by mail.
I think after you have an application on file they should send you a ballot for all elections, but as you said they want to make it difficult.
Marthe48
(23,175 posts)or nearby. It wasn't something we thought about, but as I get older, I appreciate the convenience. I wouldn't want to drive 100 miles to vote in every election. If I miss early voting, my polling place is about a 1/2 mile. The way the r's in charge of this state shuffle elections and polling places, it's a wonder anybody gets to vote.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Government and corporate sites are hacked everyday.
SalamanderSleeps
(1,022 posts)There is exactly one link that points to the election notice.
The GOFascists will do anything to ensure that they stay in power.
GOP=Mafia
SamKnause
(14,896 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,245 posts)ewcordon
(35 posts)They're really fascist now. They will take power by whatever means they can. They attack the most vulnerable first, like trans people. Then gays, blacks. Restrict rights like abortion, voting, birth control. Better prepare to fight.
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)To vote in Florida
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)It says must have Java Script enabled on a mac and on an iphone.
That seems fake. Who does this kind of error in this day and age??
riversedge
(80,810 posts)OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)FakeNoose
(41,634 posts)If the Democratic Party jumps on this immediately they can turn it around in their own favor.
We already know that the Repukes won't do shit to notify their own voters. But Democrats can turn this into a "good citizenship" opportunity, and a great chance to reach out to new voters and lapsed voters.
C Moon
(13,643 posts)diva77
(7,880 posts)and holding his feet to the fire?
Cord Byrd -- appointed by DeSatan
https://dos.myflorida.com/about-the-department/about-the-secretary/
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)when they first put the law in effect in 2020, they require re-registering for a mail ballot (no-excuse absentee ballot) every year although if you request for the spring primary, you have an option to check a box to automatically continue getting mail ballots for the remaining elections that year (including any special elections and the general election).
I am still just glad that we even have the option because until 2019, it wasn't even being discussed to do. Then suddenly in late 2019, the GOP state legislature passed it (because they wanted to use it as a "compromise" to get our (D) governor to also sign off on getting rid of "straight-party voting", the bane of the GOP) that was part of that bill. Now the GOP here is trying everything they can to repeal the law.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)During the pandemic, Governor Cuomo automatically sent mail-in ballots to everyone, at least for the primaries. I'm trying to remember if we got ballots for the general, too. We didn't have to request them, they just came, which was quite a relief.
BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)and in 2019, a year before the 2020 election, they revised their law to clarify that they planned to keep those who initially requested mail-ins before the law went into effect, on the list for any future election - https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/08/murphy-signs-law-fixing-mail-in-ballot-glitch-in-time-for-the-november-election.html
But with that, since the state was now going to be mailing them to every voter (although the option to vote "in person" was still available as part of their "hybrid model" ), the GOP heads exploded, and lawsuits ensued, and the courts threw the suits out.
I think FL and some others "missed the memo" because this year, literally a month ago, there has been a change in the GOP policy position to finally embrace mail votes because they realized that in the zeal to spite Democrats, they have put their own rural voters at risk.
June 7, 2023, 4:06 PM EDT
By Allan Smith
The Republican National Committee on Wednesday announced a new program to "maximize" pre-Election Day voting among Republicans following a yearslong effort by former President Donald Trump and allies to cast doubt on the early voting system. Dubbed "Bank Your Vote," the RNC-led program aims to encourage Republican voters on how to lock in their votes as early as possible "through in-person early voting, absentee voting, and ballot harvesting where legal," a party press release said.
The program will be carried out in conjunction with the National Republican Senatorial Committee and National Republican Congressional Committee. After an underwhelming midterm election cycle, party leaders ramped up calls to make a stronger effort at getting Republicans to cast early votes, citing a significant disadvantage the party faced in key swing states where Democrats took full advantage of various voting methods.
Trump and aligned candidates, however, continued a crusade to cast doubt over the legitimacy of early and mail-in balloting, limiting how many Republicans felt comfortable casting such votes. Weve got to have a change of culture among Republican voters," Rep. Richard Hudson of North Carolina, chairman of the NRCC, said on a conference call with reporters on Wednesday. "And its going to require us all on the same page."
(snip)
Asked about the push from Trump and allies to delegitimize early voting in recent cycles, RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said such efforts were harmful, but she believes they're in the rearview mirror. The party's presidential field, including Trump, is now talking up the importance of early voting, she added. "Its simple math: You want to get as many votes in before Election Day," she said. "But that certainly is a challenge if you have people in your ecosystem saying dont vote early or dont vote by mail. And those cross messages do have an impact. I dont think youre seeing that heading into 2024. I think youre seeing all of us singing from the same song." "Were going to need all of all of us saying this to help voters feel comfortable voting early," she added.
(snip)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/gop-unveils-program-get-republicans-voting-early-change-culture-rcna88162
Too late!
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)I would imagine that preventing rural voters from voting would backfire big time. Back during the 2016 election, I saw no TFG signs in my neck-of-the-woods. But a woman I know who lives up north in a log cabin by a stream on a dirt road invited some of us over one Saturday. So of course I got lost and was afraid to ask for directions since there were TFG signs in every yard.
BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)They realized the "psychological effect" of all these Democrats who have "already voted" (early voting/mail voting) and there they are, (phony) "Patriotic Republicans®", trudging into a polling place, some traveling there from dozens of miles away in a truck that has a flat tire, to get to a county seat, proudly and arrogantly "casting their vote", while the votes of many Democrats have already been cast and they can just sit back and gloat as the GOP votes slowly trickle in.
The original intent of this type of voting came to a head after fiascos like what happened in OH back during the 2004 election when people were waiting for hours and hours in line to vote after they purged voter rolls, and then closed polling places, and the state got shamed into fixing that with allowing the early voting/no-fault mail ballots.
Believe it or not, despite all the hype, here in PA and even in Philly, most Democrats vote "in person" and only about 1/3rd use mail ballots.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)Was when I was in college when my mother had absentee ballots sent to me. And when I worked the phones during my congressman's campaign, I had parents call whose kids were away at school so I learned what to tell them to have absentee ballots sent to their kids.
That's why I don't understand college kids voting at wherever their school is, where I went to school wasn't really my home and I was clueless about whether they had a mayor or what congressional district they were in.
Of course I was pretty clueless back in those days about a lot of things. I got sent to a private girls' boarding school in Massachusetts which was not my favorite time - and as seniors those of us from New York had to get up early one day and take a bus that took us to another private school over the New York border to take the Regents Scholarship Exam - in public school we had to take Regents Exams to pass certain courses, too.
Anyway, I must have done well, since I was one of three that took that bus who got a Regents Scholarship (which in my day basically paid for books). However, they called my parents to verify what county I lived in since I put down the wrong one. I had guessed, I really didn't know.
BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)I dutifully requested absentee ballots every election and what was funny was that once I sent them in and they were received by the city, they were then sent to what was my polling location at home just in time for election day so they could be opened, and counted.
And when my mom would go to vote at that location, the poll workers would proudly tell her that they had received my absentee ballot!
I liked our old absentee ballots because they were huge things that folded up in quarters I think (and you would check a box next to the name). The current ballots are smaller and obviously updated (thanks to the technology) to be computer/ballot machine-read, including using bar codes, etc.
Democrats here are trying to get the idiot GOP - at least in the state Senate since Democrats finally took over control of the state House - to amend the mail ballot law to allow "pre-canvassing" of the ballots before election day so all they have to do is feed the ballots into the machines and be on their way. But the GOP here still "haven't got the memo".
machoneman
(4,128 posts)...by the suppression of mail in voting must be Republican voters. I find it funny that now the national GOP effort is to get their ilk to vote by mail, just as DeSatan (yes a great name!) and his compliant legislators have dumped all mail in ballot requests. I'll also bet that although it's too late, they also destroyed all records of who did vote that way on his order.
I'll also venture FL will see a drop-off in total R votes over the next few elections simply since we have a lot of older, infirm or shut-in voters who now see a harder path to vote. And yes, as the majority of all voters, the R's have dug an unnecessary hole in their own electorate. So much for looking into the possible effects of their woebegotten efforts to own us libs!
BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)They "didn't get the memo" and went full speed ahead (although from what the OP article noted, the law had passed back in 2021 and they had already started their application purges for 2022 and 2023). Of course they *could* reverse course if they wanted (via legislation) but they are too brainwashed to move that juggernaut around.
The main reason they keep prevailing while smashing our voters, is that our voters still aren't turning out as much as they could. They are not living, breathing, or eating "politics" and are just trying to work, get a roof over their heads, and put food on the table and unfortunately, "voting" seems ancillary to doing that (and in many cases, is made too inconvenient for them to do so with their schedules).
The bellweather turnout for Democrats should be what was seen for 2008 (which happened after the 2006 Democratic takeover of the House for the first time since 1994).
mucifer
(25,667 posts)Its so clear we are not.
FM123
(10,372 posts)I live in Broward County, the bluest of blue counties here in FL and they are specifically sabotaging us. We have nearly 600,000 registered Democrats in Broward County to only 270,000 registered repubs. If they wipe out our mail in ballots, the damage will be devastating.
https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/data-statistics/voter-registration-statistics/voter-registration-reports/voter-registration-by-county-and-party/
"Broward County said its records reflect the totals on Election Day in November, when it sent out 428,000 mail ballots to voters. At the beginning of July, Broward had just 35,000 voters set up to receive mail ballots."
pecosbob
(8,387 posts)mitch96
(15,804 posts)in my county and plug in my info it comes up I have requested mail in ballots and it's still in force. I have been checking every month and it says
Voter Status Eligible to vote in xxxxxx County.
You have a standing request to receive a mail ballot for elections occurring on or before 12/31/2024.
Now the trick is will "they" really send it.
m
BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)The OP article has -
So if you requested maybe earlier this year, you *should be* okay. If you requested before then, it's possible that either they haven't purged you "yet" so you are still in the system or they are counting on doing an "oops" bait and switch tactic by not updating the system in a timely fashion to give a heads-up.
mitch96
(15,804 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)then it will go "poof". That's why the "scramble". It looks like what they are saying is that an application for mail ballots will only be good for 2 years.
Here in PA, we have to apply every year for it, but with that application, we can select an option to do mail ballots for "all" elections for that year (primary, special, general), and one will be automatically be sent for any elections held that year. But if the option isn't selected, then a ballot would be sent for the first election after the application was received and that's it. You'd have to request again for the next election that year.
mitch96
(15,804 posts)No "poof" yet.
As usual I'll keep apprised of the situation..
m
BumRushDaShow
(169,758 posts)(crossing fingers)
Cha
(319,076 posts)for all those who voted by mail for whatever reason.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)they just try to keep people from voting at all