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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 03:04 PM Jul 2023

Special counsel obtains thousands of documents from Rudy Giuliani team that tried to find fraud

Source: CNN

A Donald Trump ally has turned over thousands of documents to special counsel Jack Smith related to efforts to find supposed voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election – including materials that haven’t been previously disclosed to investigators looking into events surrounding January 6, 2021.

Former New York Police Commissioner Bernie Kerik was part of the team led by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani trying to uncover fraud that would swing the election in favor of Trump.

For months, Kerik had tried to shield some of the documents from investigators, citing privilege.

But in recent weeks, Kerik gave the documents to the Trump’s 2024 campaign to review. After that review, the campaign declined to assert privilege, according to Kerik’s lawyer, Tim Parlatore, who turned over the documents to Smith’s office on Sunday.



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/politics/bernie-kerik-rudy-giuliani-special-counsel-documents/index.html
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Special counsel obtains thousands of documents from Rudy Giuliani team that tried to find fraud (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2023 OP
Trying to find fraud..... TheRealNorth Jul 2023 #1
Enough found to be called evidence on the social media and then pump into he Cults Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #7
Same thing. paleotn Jul 2023 #11
A campaign can't assert Executive Privilege Fiendish Thingy Jul 2023 #2
Kerik MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #3
He does not want to go back to jail bottomofthehill Jul 2023 #10
Would Trump's laywers now say they need more time because of the new huge documents? LiberalFighter Jul 2023 #4
Delay what? He hasn't been indicted yet. brooklynite Jul 2023 #6
On the Espionage Indictment...more time is always needed for documents cases... Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #8
These are for the J6 coup attempt, not Merde-a-Loco national secrets documents. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #13
Bernie Kerik just continues to pay off underpants Jul 2023 #5
The Devils Defence...I genuinely believed that, so I can't be guilty! Devils Defence has same Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #9
Since Trump isn't fighting the release, I wonder if there's anything useful in the documents. paleotn Jul 2023 #12
I was wondering the same thing. BlueKota Jul 2023 #17
They have searched so hard, in so many places, for fraud. They have found no fraud. mwb970 Jul 2023 #14
Money may not be the only thing laundered... 3825-87867 Jul 2023 #15
Might be good news but knowing the way this group of crooks moniss Jul 2023 #16
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
7. Enough found to be called evidence on the social media and then pump into he Cults
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 04:25 PM
Jul 2023

fantasy world.

Servers in Italy changing election results cause…one crazy guy signed an Affidavit!??

Good enough! Hire a Kraken lawyer and take it to court…doesn’t matter if gets dismissed with extreme prejudice and extreme shame…it’s the principle of deceit that counts! The Big Lie needs constant feeding by more little lies or it dies.

Four Seasons Landscaping…any more questions?

Fortunately real Courts don’t like social media admissible evidence, and don’t know how to laugh…but they do know know to Convict those that try to con them, repeatedly.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,130 posts)
2. A campaign can't assert Executive Privilege
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 03:24 PM
Jul 2023

And couldn’t assert attorney client privilege either.

That would be up to Trump himself and his personal lawyers.

Either this is sloppy reporting or Kerik knowingly submitted the documents to the wrong people.

Either way, good news.

Interesting that Kerik’s lawyer is Trump’s former lawyer (he resigned didn’t he?)

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
4. Would Trump's laywers now say they need more time because of the new huge documents?
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 03:52 PM
Jul 2023

A way to further delay?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
8. On the Espionage Indictment...more time is always needed for documents cases...
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 04:29 PM
Jul 2023

I feel suspicious tRump took such a massive amount exactly for the reason that when he was indicted, he could delay. Don’t forget this is a beast with a thousand lawsuits notches on his foul belt.
And here we are.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. The Devils Defence...I genuinely believed that, so I can't be guilty! Devils Defence has same
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 04:35 PM
Jul 2023

success rate as the Cutthroat Defence…0%.

Devils Defence and the Cutthroat is all I can see the devil has to work with!

My unflinching through these years confidence in the eventual outcome of fascist principes, and the triumph of rule of law has not been quashed, rule of law is not without solid foundation, the courts will hold…fascism at bay.

paleotn

(22,182 posts)
12. Since Trump isn't fighting the release, I wonder if there's anything useful in the documents.
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 04:44 PM
Jul 2023

mwb970

(12,149 posts)
14. They have searched so hard, in so many places, for fraud. They have found no fraud.
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 05:20 PM
Jul 2023

Yet trump cultists still believe that there was "massive fraud" for which there is "overwhelming evidence".

3825-87867

(1,935 posts)
15. Money may not be the only thing laundered...
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 05:50 PM
Jul 2023

by these Reprhensibles.

Goodness knows someone had to be semi literate to have known to change documents.

After all, Hunter's Lap Top!

moniss

(9,045 posts)
16. Might be good news but knowing the way this group of crooks
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 05:57 PM
Jul 2023

behaves it wouldn't surprise me if anything possibly incriminating was "lost" while the campaign did their review.

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